Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

[Mojo Magnum]

Hmmm, so PLD and LDA are on the chopping block and spec is proving ellusive at best.  I'm thinking I may have to revive my Pizza Delivery skills.

 

[Sig_Des]

I heard there's a message out confirming no spec pay for anyone, including techs from my CoC, but I haven't seen the message.

Can anyone confirm?

 

[FreeFloat]

There was nothing new on the CANFORGEN front when I looked today, but I can check again tomorrow.

 

[Sig_Des]

There was nothing new on the CANFORGEN front when I looked today, but I can check again tomorrow.

I don't think it would be a CANFORGEN. the MES IP Message wasn't

 

[REDinstaller]

I heard there's a message out confirming no spec pay for anyone, including techs from my CoC, but I haven't seen the message.

Can anyone confirm?

HMMMMM, thats odd. YOU have no Techs in your CoC. They are all in mine. And from DCLI Spec will remain the domain of LCIS trained Techs. I have seen all the traffic as the Senior Tech within the Regt. Enjoy your DL.

PM inbound

 

[Sig_Des]

HMMMMM, thats odd. YOU have no Techs in your CoC. They are all in mine.

True, s'why I asked here.

Enjoy your DL.

DL's...irritating...

 

[REDinstaller]

If only the DLs were Drill Cane/Pace Stick length again. Then there would be a positive learning environment again.

 

[HItorMiss]

you just wont stop whining huh BW....

A good NCO accepts the bad when told to, so how about you just get on with it eh  ;D

 

[Swingline1984]

The pay review is not taking place until sometime in November according to the Mess errrrrr...MES Manager.

 

[REDinstaller]

The Email from the Occupation Mgr has stated LCIS trained techs will not lose Spec pay.

 

[Swingline1984]

The Email from the Occupation Mgr has stated LCIS trained techs will not lose Spec pay.

It would be a terrible retention strategy if they did.

 

[REDinstaller]

The entire ACISS program is a terible retention plan. Look at the branch website. How many Sig Ops jumped ship this year? Lots. So retention has never been part of the plan. 

 

[PuckChaser]

The entire ACISS program is a terible retention plan. Look at the branch website. How many Sig Ops jumped ship this year? Lots. So retention has never been part of the plan.

This isn't a plan for the ACISS Core. Everything I've heard makes it sound like SigOps are now second-class citizens compared to all the super-elite sub occs. I'm of the mind to wait and see how this works out, but the information coming down the pipe really makes me question why I wanted to do TacRad. At least if things crash and burn, my VIE is up in 2013 and I'm not on the hook for $20,000 if I want out of the C&E Branch. As you pointed out a lot of guys jumped early so they won't get sucked down by the ship.

 

[REDinstaller]

And many of those pers were the senior people, its not your granddaddy's TacRad anymore.

 

[Swingline1984]

And many of those pers were the senior people, its not your granddaddy's TacRad anymore.

Nope...not at all.  Have you seen the new headset?

 

[chrisf]

Resistance to the ACISS transition is futile...

 

[Rheostatic]

Your occupation's distinctiveness will be added to our own.

(Couldn't resist.)

 

[REDinstaller]

It's a mind over matter issue. I don't mind being a LCIS Tech, so ACISS doesn't matter.  >

 

[Occam]

Another "wooops!"...



R 261851Z OCT 11
FM NDHQ CLS OTTAWA//DLCI//
TO AIG 1703
AIG 1764
AIG 1840
INFO ZEN/NDHQ DGMP OTTAWA//DPGR//
ZEN/NDHQ DGMC OTTAWA
ZEN/NDHQ ASST CMP//DHRIM//
ZEN/NDHQ DG FIN OPS OTTAWA//DMPAPA//
BT
UNCLAS CLS 058/11
SUBJ: ARMY COMMUNICATION AND INFORMATION SYSTEMS SPECIALIST (ACISS)
OCCUPATION - PAY ISSUE
REFS: A.  5555-31-00362 (DPGR 2-7) 30 JUNE 11
B.  DPGR 012/11 201455Z SEP 11
C.  CFAO 11-12
D.  CBI 204.03
1. ON 1 OCT 11, THE LCIS TECH - 00110, SIG OP - 00329 AND LMN -
00015 OCCUPATIONS WERE DISBANDED AND THE NEW ARMY COMMUNICATION AND
INFORMATION SYSTEMS SPECIALIST (ACISS) - 00362 OCCUPATION WAS STOOD
UP. ON THE SAME DATE, MEMBERS OF THE LEGACY OCCUPATIONS WERE
COMPULSORY OCCUPATION TRANSFERRED (COT) TO THE ACISS OCCUPATION OR
ONE OF ITS SUB-OCCUPATIONS IAW REFS C AND D. UNDER THESE CONDITIONS,
THE PAY ENTITLEMENT IS BASED ON THE RATE OF PAY THE MEMBER WAS
RECEIVING ON THE DAY IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THE MEMBER S TRANSFER
2. THE ARMY HQ HAS BEEN ADVISED THAT A TECHNICAL ERROR OCCURRED
DURING THE TRANSFER OF THE AFFECTED PERSONNEL THAT NEGATIVELY
IMPACTED THE PAY OF FORMER MEMBERS OF THE LCIS TECH OCCUPATION CPL
TO MWO IN BOTH REG F AND P RES F. WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE ISSUE AND
ARE IN CONTACT WITH CONCERNED OFFICES OF PRIMARY INTEREST (OPI) TO
HAVE THE SITUATION RECTIFIED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND ENSURE THAT ALL
MEMBERS ARE IN RECEIPT OF THEIR FULL PAY ENTITLEMENT.
3. UNTIL THE SITUATION IS CORRECTED IN THE CENTRAL COMPUTERIZED PAY
SYSTEM (CCPS), DIRECTOR MILITARY PAY AND ACCOUNTS PROCESSING (DMPAP)
ISSUED AN ADVISORY TO ACCOUNTING OFFICERS AND CHIEF CLERKS TO THE
EFFECT THAT UNITS ARE TO PROTECT THE PAY OF AFFECTED MEMBERS.

 

[buzgo]

The techs I know are shaking their heads... this is yet another indication that the people in charge of this are out to lunch.