AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

[OldSolduer]

What names would you assign USNS Bridge and Rainier in RCN service HMCS Keystone and Hibernia perhaps?

HMCS Plugahole

HMCS Bridegethegap

 

[jonsey]

HMCS Onemanstrash and HMCS Anothermanstreasure

 

[Journeyman]

With the current obsession with 'all things British antiquity,' they would likely be Rainbow and Niobe

 

[Pat in Halifax]

With the current obsession with 'all things British antiquity,' they would likely be Rainbow and Niobe

Oh, now you did it!!
Someone in Ottawa is going to pick up on this...Thanks!

 

[Kirkhill]

Gap-filler for Canada or permanent solution?

Erickson Awarded Contract Extension with US Navy Military Sealift Command (MSC)

(Source: Erickson Incorporated; issued Oct 15, 2014)

PORTLAND, Ore. --- Erickson Incorporated (EAC), a leading global provider of aviation services for a diverse mix of commercial and government customers, announced today that it was recently awarded an option period extension with the United States Navy’s Military Sealift Command (MSC).

Udo Rieder, Chief Executive Officer of Erickson said, “We see this as a huge vote of confidence. We were proud last year to have been awarded the contract to provide our airlift services to Military Sealift Command to support our Navy’s 5th and 7th fleets around the globe. We are even more pleased for our national defense leaders to extend our service and exercise their option to entrust us with the important responsibility to provide personnel and cargo transport.”

Erickson will provide ship-based rotor wing aircraft to support ship-to-ship and shore-to-ship vertical replenishment (VERTREP) in the Mediterranean Sea and Pacific Ocean--a procedure the company helped to develop 16 years ago. SA330J Puma helicopters will be stationed on civilian cargo vessels to support Navy convoys. The aircraft will eliminate dangerous ship-to-ship cargo transfer by delivering vital sustenance, ammunitions and aircraft parts in a fraction of the time. This process will enable ships and their crews to remain at sea for extended periods of time, improving military readiness capabilities.

Erickson employs the world’s most qualified pilots, maintenance personnel and support teams necessary to aid in flight operations and safety procedures. Services offered by Erickson’s heavy, medium and light-lift helicopters include passenger transport, oil and seismic exploration support, search and rescue, aerial spray application, firefighting, long-line lift operations, and emergency medical evacuation in some of the most challenging and isolated places on Earth.


Erickson is a leading global provider of aviation services to a diverse mix of commercial and government customers. Erickson currently operates a diverse fleet of 88 rotary-wing and fixed-wing aircraft, including 20 heavy-lift S-64 Aircranes. Founded in 1971, Erickson is headquartered in Portland, Oregon, and maintains facilities and operations in North America, South America, Europe, the Middle East, Africa and Asia-Pacific.

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http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/158011/us-navy-extends-erickson-vertrep-contract.html

 

[Kirkhill]

And the Aussies again ..... dam the rabbit-poachers.

We're still trying to get a current solution.  They're looking at their next solution.

http://Navantia and Australia Sign Contract for the Risk Reduction Design Study for Two Logistics Ships


(Source: Navantia; issued Oct 10, 2014)


On 10th October, Navantia and Australian DMO have signed a contract for the RRDS (Risk Reduction Design Study) of the program SEA1654, for the construction of two AOR logistic ships.

The signature of the contract took place in Garden Island Naval Base, with the presence of Admiral Purcell and Patrick Fitzpatrick, from DMO, the Commercial Director of Navantia, Gonzalo Mateo-Guerrero and the Director of Navantia Australia, Francisco Barón.

The contract, that will last approx. 8 months, intends to study the design of the BAC “Cantabria”, built by Navantia for the Spanish Navy, within the Australian specific requirements.

This phase means the beginning of the program for the acquisition of two AOR logistic ships in which Navantia has been preselected, together with DSME from Korea. After this phase, the Australian Government will start the final part for the construction of the ships, issuing the Request For Proposal.

This contract, together with the recent acceptance of the ALHD Canberra, first of the two ALHD’s built by Navantia and BAE Systems, by the Commonwealth of Australia, is a new important milestone and shows the relevance of Australia as a strategic client for Navantia.

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http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/158012/navantia-to-study-ran-logistics-ships.html

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Gap-filler for Canada or permanent solution?

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/158011/us-navy-extends-erickson-vertrep-contract.html

Brits are already doing this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX7R2mGOA_M

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Nice Colin, but those are American ships - not Brits.

The supplying vessel is the USNS Matthew Perry T-AKE-9, a civilian operated supply ship of the USA operated by the Military Sealift Command, and the white Puma helicopter aiding with the VERTREP is actually carried onboard and also operated by the MSC.

The ship they appear to be supplying is a LHA/LHD of the Marines.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I saw the Brit version in a video but could not find it before I had to leave but basically the same thing off of a RFA vessel all done by private contractors, how this sort arrangement stands up to a conflict is anyone's guess. Knowing the Brits they will dust off some 200 year old legislation and Pressgang the crews into the RN

 

[Kirkhill]

I saw the Brit version in a video but could not find it before I had to leave but basically the same thing off of a RFA vessel all done by private contractors, how this sort arrangement stands up to a conflict is anyone's guess. Knowing the Brits they will dust off some 200 year old legislation and Pressgang the crews into the RN

The original role of the Fusiliers......

Guarding and escorting artillery pieces was the first task assigned to the Fusiliers du Roi: flintlocks were especially useful around field artillery, as they were less likely than matchlocks to accidentally ignite open barrels of gunpowder, required at the time to load cannons.[1] At the time, artillery units also required guards to maintain discipline amongst civilian draymen.[2] Hence the term fusilier became strongly associated with the role of guarding artillery in Britain and the English-speaking world,[2] especially after the formation of the first official "Fusilier" units, during the 1680s.

And that, boys and girls, is why drivers in military service often have military helpers assigned to them.  Just like the Royal Navy sailors had all those nice Royal Marines assigned to help them.  >

I can just see a Royal Marine with a 9mm sitting in a jump seat in those helicopters.....

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Never a dull learning moment on Army.ca  :nod:

 

[ringo]

Any RCN interested in lease or purchase of French AOR, FS Meuse?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Would still be one of the newer vessels in the fleet.

 

[Edward Campbell]

And there's a report in the International Business Times that "The Canadian military has emerged as a potential destination for the controversial French-built Mistral helicopter carrier ships, built for Russia and now at the center of an international row after France indicated it would not hand them over, in response to international indignation over Russian actions in Ukraine ... The possibility of a Canadian solution appeared in French media after French President François Hollande began a state visit to Canada this week. While Hollande has yet to make a decision on whether Russia has met the criteria to receive the ships, the presence in the French delegation to Canada of the diplomatic advisor to the chairman of DCNS, the company that manufactures the ships, offers the first indication that France could actively be seeking an alternative buyer."

Don't hold your breath/get your hopes up/believe rumous/etc/etc/etc ... (delete which not applicable)

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Rumours are the only hope I have left these days.  8)

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

A quote from that article in the International Business Times:

"The Canadian link, first reported by French newspaper Le Monde on Monday, comes at a time when the Canadian military is aggressively modernizing its navy and coast guard. According to French and Canadian sources cited in Le Monde, the Canadian Armed Forces “are now determined to diversify their partners in defense matters,” moving away from their traditional U.S. suppliers."

If the pace at which we are going is considered "aggressive modernization", I would hate to see what happens when you do it at "normal" speed. /Sarc off

 

[MilEME09]

And there's a report in the International Business Times that "The Canadian military has emerged as a potential destination for the controversial French-built Mistral helicopter carrier ships, built for Russia and now at the center of an international row after France indicated it would not hand them over, in response to international indignation over Russian actions in Ukraine ... The possibility of a Canadian solution appeared in French media after French President François Hollande began a state visit to Canada this week. While Hollande has yet to make a decision on whether Russia has met the criteria to receive the ships, the presence in the French delegation to Canada of the diplomatic advisor to the chairman of DCNS, the company that manufactures the ships, offers the first indication that France could actively be seeking an alternative buyer."

Don't hold your breath/get your hopes up/believe rumous/etc/etc/etc ... (delete which not applicable)

or DCNS is there because they are heavily lobbying for the CSC project

 

[Colin Parkinson]

As much as I would love to see a Mistral under Canadian colours, that does not solve our AOR problem. I am not sure the media understands the difference in the 2 types of vessels.

 

[jollyjacktar]

As much as I would love to see a Mistral under Canadian colours, that does not solve our AOR problem. I am not sure the media understands the difference in the 2 types of vessels.

No, they don't have a clue in all honestly in my opinion.  I don't really expect them to either as they're not in the business.  There will be one or two that are somewhat savvy but...  The ships will all look and be the same, big, grey coloured and mysterious to the majority especially the further you go inland.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

As much as I would love to see a Mistral under Canadian colours, that does not solve our AOR problem. I am not sure the media understands the difference in the 2 types of vessels.

True enough. Though Mistral's carry a lot of fuel and it would not be a very complex modification to add a single fuelling mast just aft of the island and set up pumps on the deck below so they could have some refuelling capability. It would be like going back to the old days when the aircraft carriers used to refuel their escorts at sea.