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$60 / Barrel by year end

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devil39 said:
Canada needs to work for all Canadians.  Free passage of goods across provincial borders, roads, railways and pipelines should all be part of that.  I'm a born and raised Albertan, and currently reside here after 33 years service in the CAF.  Alberta is at a significant disadvantage under this current Federal Government.  Our economic viability should not be determined by the whim of the Federal Government and their changing the rules about "upstream" and "downstream" impacts of our oil industry. 

If the majority of Canadians believe that Alberta's economy can be destroyed by the Federal Governments changing rules, and if the majority of Canadians believe that Saudi and Venezuelan oil is preferable to Alberta oil, then perhaps Alberta needs a different governmental system than the current Confederation?

We all have histories of service.  My service, and that of my family, was not about empowering the Federal Government to blatantly act against the interests of any Province.

I don't think is that the majority of Canadians think the underlined.  I think its that the majority of Canadians are complacent and distracted by superficial things, and most truly don't care what goes on beyond their small geographical foot print and social circle.
 
jollyjacktar said:
Just about every province is at some sort of disadvantage at one time or another.  Life sucks and it isn't fair.

When the Federal Government tells Ontario they can't transport cars to BC, or that BC can't transport lumber to Saskatchewan, or that NS can't transport lobster to Ontario, then I will believe we are all equally disadvantaged. 

What is the downstream environmental impact of the (dwindling) Ontario auto sector?
 
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Another relationship that has gone off the rails is the Canadian dollar/West Texas Intermediate (WTI) oil correlation.  Normally, when oil prices rise, the Canadian dollar rises as well.  The relationship decoupled between September and mid-December and decoupled again at the start of the new year.  Part of the reason for the discrepancy is that Canada’s major crude export, Western Canada Select, is a heavier oil that WTI, which requires additional refining.  Recently, increased supply and pipeline constraints have led to a $31.99 Canadian dollar discount to the price of WTI. The price differential was just CAD 15.05 in July 2017.  Even though oil prices have risen, the benefit to Canada is reduced.

Right now WTI is $63.57 USD - ($31.99 x $1.2532) $40.01 = $23.56
 
Gas will be going up here in BC as the primary refinery shuts down for about 8 weeks to do a major upgrade, we have to bring in product from Washington State and Alberta to service Lower BC. There is a small refinery serving Northern BC in Prince George.
 
This differential in industry and pricing is going to cost Canada hundreds of billions of dollars, not just in direct revenues (look at the difference between the price of WTI and Western Canada Select), but also the follow on costs from depressed support industries and downstream (such as petrochemicals, fertilizers, pharmaceuticals and so on). As the subhead on Instapundit says:

Trudeau is Canada’s Obama, but can you even talk about or imagine someone being “Canada’s Trump?”

http://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/u-s-oil-boom-creating-jobs-and-curbing-emissions-in-contrast-to-restrained-canadian-energy-policy

Canada stuck on sidelines as U.S. oil boom creates jobs, curbs emissions
Claudia Cattaneo: The U.S. oil sector is booming, while our oil and gas sector is looking forward to another year of uncertainty, low prices and increasing tax burdens
January 12, 2018
7:45 AM EST
Last Updated
January 12, 2018
9:23 AM EST

Oil prices are rallying, but instead of reaping the benefits Canadian oil and gas producers are stuck on the sidelines while their American counterparts are riding them with all they’ve got.

Indeed, a tale of two oil and gas sectors is emerging. On the Canadian side, the mood is subdued, budgets for 2018 are flat relative to last year, and job creation has taken a back seat to automation.

The Canadian sector is held back by pipeline bottlenecks that are depressing both oil and gas prices (WTI rose near US$64 a barrel Thursday, while Western Canadian Select was trading just above US$37), governments that are more concerned about transitioning to renewable energy, investors who’ve moved on to better and faster opportunities elsewhere.

On the U.S. side, optimism is strong, thanks to the U.S. industry’s success in producing shale gas and tight oil and in crushing barriers to export the new production globally, plus support from a president whose only concern about fossil fuels is that there should be more.

Jack Gerard, president of the American Petroleum Institute (API), reflected the U.S. industry’s buoyancy in his annual state of the industry address this week.

“We have taken the nation from energy scarcity to energy abundance, from making products abroad to a rebirth of U.S. manufacturing,” he said in Washington Tuesday. “From energy as a major pocketbook issue to lower gasoline, diesel, electricity and home heating costs. And today we are increasing development as we’re contributing to lower greenhouse gas emissions – a reality many believed was implausible, if not impossible.”

Gerard credited industry innovation and technological breakthroughs for his country’s ascent to the world’s largest producer of natural gas, oil and refined products. This year, the U.S. is expected to produce more than 10 million barrels a day, elevating itself to the status of one of the world’s largest oil producers alongside Saudi Arabia and Russia.

Meanwhile, the API says U.S. economy-wide CO2 emissions are near 25-year lows, and for the past 10 years energy-related carbon dioxide emissions have fallen in 43 states.

The API is also optimistic about the sector’s employment prospects. As many as 1.9 million new jobs are projected in the oil and natural gas and petrochemical industries by 2035, Gerard said.

“Women and minorities, including African American and Hispanic workers, will fill nearly 40 per cent of those positions. And the contribution of millennials, who make up one-third of the oil and natural gas industry’s workforce today, are projected to grow.”

The API welcomed a plan to open new offshore areas for exploration, which it says is an acknowledgement of the industry’s advancements in technology to safely access resources, as well as tax reforms that “will allow the natural gas and oil industry to continue building in the millions of jobs we support and billions we invest into the U.S. economy every year.”

In contrast, Canada’s oil and gas sector is looking forward to another year of uncertainty, low prices and increasing tax burdens.

The coming big-ticket items are a tanker ban off the Canadian West Coast, reforms of federal regulatory reviews of major projects, tougher methane emissions regulations, and national carbon pricing.

That’s in addition to upheaval from continuing lack of energy export infrastructure – oil and gas pipelines and LNG terminals.

“Canadian oil prices have completely de-coupled from global benchmarks – with the current strip implying the widest heavy differential in about three years at US$20 a barrel in 2018,” Peters & Co. analysts say in a recent outlook report.

And there isn’t a quick fix. Canadian oil supplies, which are growing with the completion of big oilsands projects will match pipeline capacity this year and next, Peters said. Of the three pipelines at various stages of approval, only Enbridge’s Line 3 replacement has a high probability of being in service by 2020, according to Peters, while due to continuing delays both Keystone XL and the Trans Mountain expansion are anticipating in service dates after 2020.

The story is even bleaker on the gas side, where pipelines are full now and export capacity not available until a liquefied gas industry takes off.

The upshot is that capital spending in Canada is expected to stay flat at $51 billion this year in Canada, though oilsands spending will decrease by $2.8 billion to $13.6 billion, or about 60 per cent less than before oil prices crashed in 2014, and spending on the conventional side increasing to $37.5 billion, up $2.4 billion.

Meanwhile, the Alberta government is expected to collect a staggering sum in carbon payments from the oilsands alone – more than $1.1 billion by 2025, from $300 million in 2017.

The U.S. Permian basin, where there are no such payments, is the new hot spot. Spending is expected to increase to about US$40-US$45-billion this year, from US$35-billion in 2017, Peters said.

Here’s the kicker: by growing, the U.S. oil and gas industry is achieving similar objectives as Canadian governments that are restraining Canadian oil and gas – lower GHG emissions, economic growth and job creation, market diversification and greater innovation.

ccattaneo@nationalpost.com

 
Rifleman62 said:
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Right now WTI is $63.57 USD - ($31.99 x $1.2532) $40.01 = $23.56

Now do the math of the impact on the Alberta Economy....

Differential ($23.56/bbl) x Approximate Production per Day (4,000,000 bbls/day) x Days per Year (365) = $34.4 Billion/year.

If I was CAPP, I would be organizing very big and very loud demonstrations in Calgary and Edmonton of unemployed peoples with a lot of signs, because the one thing JT and the boys don't like is the impression he's not nice.  The fact the Provincial Government isn't raising bloody hell over their loss of their cut in royalties and income taxes shows their mind-numbing incompetence.  Again, the premier needs to start holding video conferences set up to be easily linked to FaceBook & Twitter Feeds, and cover off on the "Things we'd like to do, but we can't because the Federal Government of Justin Trudeau has blocked pipeline development."  Talk about the provinces inability to increase education spending, healthcare spending and programs for the poor.  Make it HIS fault.  It's the only way this gets remedied.
 
For a pipeline to be online now, it would have had to start construction 4-5 years ago.  Plus, the quality of oil from the oilsands will always result in a lower price.  And finally, Alberta has a long history of resource price swings and related swings in the provincial economy.  "Please God, give us another oil boom, we promise not to piss it away this time."

Successive Alberta governments have mismanaged the economy.  The Feds (regardless of who is in power) rarely help, but that's bi-partisan neglect.
 
dapaterson said:
For a pipeline to be online now, it would have had to start construction 4-5 years ago.  Plus, the quality of oil from the oilsands will always result in a lower price.  And finally, Alberta has a long history of resource price swings and related swings in the provincial economy.  "Please God, give us another oil boom, we promise not to piss it away this time."

Successive Alberta governments have mismanaged the economy.  The Feds (regardless of who is in power) rarely help, but that's bi-partisan neglect.

So what is your point- don't try to build pipelines because they are always 4-5 years in the future, not now?

There was a proposal to build a pipeline to the east coast to free eastern Canada of having to import oil from Saudi Arabia, Nigeria Venezuala. Quebec, aided and abetted by the Federal Liberals, killed that.

There was a proposal to send oil out through Churchill. The Manitoba Govt killed that.

Enbridge to Kitimat was killed by the this current Federal Government.

Kinder Morgan to the West Coast is going nowhere, fast.

What is Alberta and Saskatchewan to think? That the game is rigged and cannot be won?

The funny part is- all of Canada is losing, not just two oil producing provinces in the west. Surely to God, tax revenues of that could do no end of good financing infrastructure and social programs.

I suppose, in the end, it is easier just to borrow the money, than it is to earn it...

 
My point is that there is no virtue at any level of government at any time in this whole mess.
 
The reality of the only large westcoast refinery being shut down is hitting here, with gas at $1.50. Sigh stupid radio announcers saying "Oh my god what's up with that?" I guess they only regurgitate what is spoon fed to them.
 
Just across the border in Blaine, WA, its $0.96 Cdn per lt.
 
I hope the oil companies hammer BC with abnormally high gas prices as punishment for pipeline opposition. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
 
Alberta & Saskatchewan should call for a tourism boycott of all residents.

Hit them in the wallet....
 
Actually it's the Prairie folk that come to BC and buy up the lake front properties and we get to hear about it in my office. :)
 
The Okanagan Valley is full of AB licence plates especially in the Summer.
 
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/us-oil-production-hits-10-million-barrels-per-day-for-first-time-since-1970/article/2647696

US oil production hits 10 million barrels per day for first time since 1970
- 31 Jan 18


And Canada is doing what?
 
Saying no to pipelines that could bring the lower-quality Canadian crude to refineries to thereafter ship to attracted buyers? ???

G2G
 
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