3 Jun 2017: Vehicle Hits Pedestrians on London Bridge

[tomahawk6]

Plenty of concerned friends and neighbors called in to the CT hotline but t5here was never any follow up. Maybe a new broom will get elected Thursday.

 

[The Bread Guy]

... Maybe a new broom will get elected Thursday.

Reminder:  Tories in power since May 2010 (but in a minority position all the way thru, with Labour coming in second place re:  # of seats in both 2010 and 2015).

This from Metro Police - highlights mine:

Monday, 5 June at 21:55hrs (1655 Eastern)

Specialist officers are working with families of victims and the Coroner to identify those who were killed in Saturday's attack at the appropriate time.

Family liaison officers have now deployed into all those families where we believe people to be dead.

Family liaison officers have also been deployed to support one family where we believe one person is still missing.

All of the people arrested on Sunday, 4 June, as part of this investigation have now been released without charge.

( ... )

Monday, 5 June at 18:00hrs (1300 Eastern)

The Met’s Counter Terrorism Command has released the names and photographs of two men shot dead by police following the terrorist attack on London Bridge and Borough Market on Saturday, 3 June.

While formal identification has yet to take place, detectives believe they now know the attackers’ identities. They believe two of the men are Khuram Shazad Butt and Rachid Redouane, both from Barking, east London.

All three men were confronted and shot dead by armed officers within eight minutes of the first call.

Khuram Shazad Butt, 27, (20.4.90), was a British citizen who was born in Pakistan. Rachid Redouane, 30 (31.7.86) had claimed to be Moroccan and Libyan. He also used the name Rachid Elkhdar, with a different date of birth of 31.7.91. Inquiries are ongoing to confirm the identity of their accomplice.

Detectives would like to hear from anyone who has any information about these men that may assist them with the investigation. They are particularly keen to hear about places they may have frequented and their movements in the days and hours before the attack.

At 22.08hrs on Saturday, 3 June, a hired white Renault van travelled north to south on London Bridge and mounted the pavement, which collided with pedestrians before they abandoned the vehicle.

The three attackers, armed with knives, continued into the Borough Market area, stabbing numerous people. The attackers were then confronted by the firearms officers and eight police firearms officers discharged their weapons.

Seven people were killed. Work to inform the next of kin of the victims is ongoing. This is taking time because we believe some of the victims are from abroad. Of the 48 people taken to hospital, 36 are currently being cared for in London hospitals with 18 remaining in a critical condition.

The investigation into this horrific attack is fast moving and complex as we piece together a fuller picture of what occurred. So far officers have arrested 12 people – seven women and five men - and searched six properties (four on Sunday and a further two properties today). One of the arrested men and one of the women were subsequently released.


Counter terrorism partners have dedicated intensive effort to developing and improving our counter terrorism response over recent years, as the threat has changed. The more we know, the greater the chance when an attack does happen we will have some information about at least one perpetrator. Our work necessarily involves making difficult judgements about how to prioritise the resources available to us at a time when the UK is facing a SEVERE and high tempo terrorist threat.

There are 500 current terrorism investigations, involving 3,000 current subjects of interest. A small number of the highest priority investigations involve current attack planning, and these investigations command a significant proportion of our resource. The remainder of our investigations focus on other activities relating to active support or facilitation of terrorism.

Khuram Shazad Butt was known to the police and MI5. However, there was no intelligence to suggest that this attack was being planned and the investigation had been prioritised accordingly. The other named man, Rachid Redouane, was not known.

Work is ongoing to understand more about them, their connections and whether they were assisted or supported by anyone else. We cannot say more about them at this stage.

Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said: “I would urge anyone with information about these men, their movements in the days and hours before the attack and the places they frequented to come forward.

“The police and our partners are doing everything we can across the country to help prevent further attacks and protect the public from harm.

“At any one time MI5 and police are conducting around 500 active investigations, involving 3,000 subjects of interest. Additionally, there are around 20,000 individuals who are former subjects of interest, whose risk remains subject to review by MI5 and its partners.

“The security and intelligence services and police have stopped 18 plots since 2013, including five since the Westminster attack two months ago.”

He added: “We would urge the public to be vigilant and to report any suspicious activity to the police by calling us in confidence on 0800 789321 or in an emergency calling 999.”

(...)

 

[Jarnhamar]

Khuram Shazad Butt was known to the police and MI5. However, there was no intelligence to suggest that this attack was being planned

I don't know, I'm not a cop but if someone was appearing on "the Jihadist Next door" I'd assume he was planning an attack. Unless I'm using the wrong definition of jihad.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Khuram Shazad Butt was known to the police and MI5. However, there was no intelligence to suggest that this attack was being planned

I don't know, I'm not a cop but if someone was appearing on "the Jihadist Next door" I'd assume he was planning an attack. Unless I'm using the wrong definition of jihad.

Right after the sentence you quoted, it said "the investigation had been prioritised accordingly."  Need for more investigative resources?  Fair question to ask - and I think it's going to get asked a LOT in the next while.  But if you only have what you have and need to pick/choose which cases (out of the 20K folks of some level of interest) require further digging, there's not much else one can do if there was nothing suggesting any planning.

The nitpicker in me notes the police choose to use the word "intelligence" rather than "evidence".  Does that mean if there was "evidence" (as in court standard), they might have been able to do more beforehand?  NOT second guessing the cops by any means, but wondering about the wording/process.

 

[The Bread Guy]

And the third one's been ID'ed - this from Metro Police ...

Tuesday, 6 June at 11:40hrs (0640 Eastern)

The Met's Counter Terrorism Command has released the name and photograph of the third attacker shot dead by police following the terrorist attacks on London Bridge and at Borough Market on Saturday.

While formal identification is yet to take place, detectives believe he is 22-year-old Youssef Zaghba, from east London. The deceased's family have been informed.

He is believed to be an Italian national of Moroccan descent. He was not a police or MI5 subject of interest.

All three men involved in the attack were confronted and shot dead by armed officers within eight minutes of the first call.

The other two were named yesterday (Monday, 5 June) by detectives as:

Khuram Shazad Butt, 27 (20.4.90), from Barking, was a British citizen who was born in Pakistan; and

Rachid Redouane, 30 (31.7.86), from Barking, had claimed to be Moroccan and Libyan. He also used the name Rachid Elkhdar, with a different date of birth of 31.7.91.

Detectives would like to hear from anyone who has any information about these men that may assist them with the investigation. They are particularly keen to hear about places they may have frequented and their movements in the days and hours before the attacks.

Detectives have also arrested a man at an address in Barking this morning, Tuesday, 6 June.

[M], a 27-year-old man, was arrested under the Terrorism Act at approximately 08.05hrs today.

A search warrant is being executed at an address in Barking.

Enquiries ongoing ...

Metro Police image attached -- (L-R) Khuram Shazad Butt, Rachid Redouane and Youssef Zaghba

 

[daftandbarmy]

Plenty of concerned friends and neighbors called in to the CT hotline but t5here was never any follow up. Maybe a new broom will get elected Thursday.

An amazing number of people will use these hotlines to 'get back' at people they don't like. The police, therefore, take ages sorting wheat from chaff ....

 

[Journeyman]

An amazing number of people will use these hotlines to 'get back' at people they don't like. The police, therefore, take ages sorting wheat from chaff ....

In addition to the calls apparently being made 5-, 3-, and 1-year prior, the closest I could get to 'plenty' is one Italian-named woman and "an anonymous person claimed he called the CT line..."

It's always easier in hindsight. 

 

[Loachman]

for those unaware the way Armed Police works in the UK

Unless and until ALL police are armed, then it doesn't "work".

The unarmed Bobby was a nice concept, sadly now undated. Failure to adapt to current times leads to death, injury, and grieving. It is unbelievably naive and inexcusable.

There are clips on Youtube showing unarmed police running ahead of pursuing mobs yelling "Allahu Akbar" and "Run, cowards". Want to encourage these people? Show weakness liberally sprinkled with stupidity due to unreasonable adherence to tradition and hoplophobia.

Arm all police. Authorize them to carry their pistols concealed while off-duty. That is a small first step.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Plenty of concerned friends and neighbors called in to the CT hotline but t5here was never any follow up. Maybe a new broom will get elected Thursday.

Be careful what you wish for: If Corbyn gets elected he has promised to get rid of the whole UK CT Strategy.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Arm all police. Authorize them to carry their pistols concealed while off-duty. That is a small first step.

Not so small when you realize the deterrent effect of all police being armed (as in Northern Ireland) vs. Jihad Johnnie knowing that he has about 10 minutes to chop people up before the gunslingers stand to.

 

[dimsum]

Wonder if this man will end up getting a commendation/medal?

Football fan shouted 'F*** you, I’m Millwall' and took on knife-wielding terrorists with his bare fists

Calls for Roy Larner, the 'Lion of London Bridge', to be given a medal after reportedly saving lives and making Millwall fans popular by single-handedly taking on the three attackers

A football fan reportedly yelled “F**k you, I’m Millwall” as he single-handedly took on the three knife-wielding London terror attackers armed with nothing more than his fists.
Roy Larner has already been hailed a hero, with a petition launched for him to be awarded the George Cross medal for his actions in the Black and Blue steakhouse on Saturday night.
In fighting back, the 47-year-old Millwall fan gave dozens of others who were in the Borough Market restaurant the chance to escape.

Now out of the intensive care ward of St Thomas’ Hospital, where he was treated for knife wounds all over his body including his neck, the father-of-one has told The Sun how he reacted when the killers burst into the restaurant shouting “Islam, Islam” and “This is for Allah”.
“Like an idiot,” he told the newspaper, “I shouted back at them. I thought, ‘I need to take the p*** out of these b******s’.”

“I took a few steps towards them and said, ‘F*** you, I’m Millwall’. So they started attacking me.”
Mr Larner added: “I stood in front of them trying to fight them off. Everyone else ran to the back.

“I was on my own against all three of them, that’s why I got hurt so much.
“It was just me, trying to grab them with my bare hands and hold on. I was swinging.

“I got stabbed and sliced eight times. They got me in my head, chest and both hands. There was blood everywhere.
“They were saying, ‘Islam, Islam!’. I said again, ‘F*** you, I’m Millwall!’

“It was the worst thing I could have done as they carried on attacking me.
“Luckily, none of the blows were straight at me or I’d be dead.”

Mr Larner’s actions have won him a huge following on social media, where he has been called “The Lion of London Bridge”, a reference to Millwall Football Club’s nickname the Lions.

Fans of the south London club have long prided themselves on their refusal to duck a fight, celebrating their intimidating reputation with the chant: “No-one likes us, we don’t care.”
Mr Larner’s bravery, however, seems suddenly to have made Millwall fans popular.
On Good Morning Brtitain, presenter Piers Morgan, a fan of rival London club Arsenal, told viewers: “Millwall fans get a very bad rap, a lot of it very deserved, but there are times when you really want a lot of Millwall fans, and that was one of them.”

Mr Larner has certainly made his mother proud.

Phyllis Larner, 78, told The Sun: “He’s fearless, my son. He’ll give as good as he gets.
“He’s quite nippy and lippy and wouldn’t back down from a fight.

“He wouldn’t care who it was or if they had a knife or gun.”

Mr Larner, from Peckham, south-east London, said the attackers eventually “ran out of the pub and legged it”.
Despite his injuries, he said he followed them outside.

“It wasn’t until I was in a police car,” said Mr Larner, “That I realised I was in a bad way. I’d been sliced up all over.”

“I didn’t think of my safety at the time,” he added. “I’d had four or five pints — nothing major.
“I can handle myself. But I was out with an old person and it was out of order.”

As he recovers in hospital, Mr Larner’s friends have brought him a running magazine.  The front cover headline reads: “Learn to run.”

Millwall Football Club have also praised the supporter for his “immense bravery”.  “Millwall Football Club wishes to commend Roy Larner for his immense bravery in incredibly terrifying circumstances, and indeed all other members of the public whose actions helped to save others” a club spokesman told the Independent.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/other-soccer/football-fan-shouted-f-you-im-millwall-and-took-on-knifewielding-terrorists-with-his-bare-fists-35795151.html

 

[jollyjacktar]

Love the bit about the magazine.

 

[Kirkhill]

And that's why the Brits field great infantry......always up for a bit aggro.  Now if it had been Arsenal....  Or better yet Hotspur...

 

[Kat Stevens]

And that's why the Brits field great infantry......always up for a bit aggro.  Now if it had been Arsenal....  Or better yet Hotspur...

Ahem..."Spurs", and West Ham fans regularly kick shit out of Milwall fans.

 

[Kirkhill]

Ahem..."Spurs", and West Ham fans regularly kick shit out of Milwall fans.

Yeah, but you have to admit the thought of them being tackled by a "Yid" is intriguing.  >

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10908591/Yid-chanting-by-Tottenham-Hotspur-fans-no-longer-an-arrestable-offence-at-White-Hart-Lane-says-Metropolitan-Police.html

 

[The Bread Guy]

Another arrest - this from Metro Police:

... Detectives investigating the London Bridge terror attack carried out a warrant, and made a further arrest in east London this evening, Sunday, 11 June.

At 21:50hrs officers from the Met's Counter Terrorism Command, supported by the Territorial Support Group, arrested a 19-year-old man [ U ] at an address in Barking.

He was arrested on suspicion of being concerned in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism under Section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000.

He has been taken into custody at a south London police station and is detained under the Terrorism Act.

Searches of a residential address in Barking are ongoing.

Six other men remain in custody.

A 28-year-old man [T] was arrested at 02:05hrs on 10 June at a residential address in Barking. He has been taken into custody at a police station in Berkshire and is detained under the Terrorism Act. Searches of the residential address in Barking are ongoing.

A 27-year-old man [ O ] was arrested on a street in Ilford under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act (PACE) at around 22.00hrs on 5 June. He is now being held under terrorism legislation.

A 29-year-old man [Q] was arrested at an address in Ilford on 5 June under PACE. He is now being held under terrorism legislation.

A 30-year-old man [N] was arrested at an address in Ilford on suspicion of the preparation of terrorist acts, contrary to section 5 of the Terrorism Act 2006, at approximately 01.30hrs on 7 June. He also remains in police custody.

A 29-year-old man [R] was arrested at an address in Newham on suspicion of being concerned in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism under Section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000, at approximately 01:15hrs on 9 June. He also remains in custody.

A 27-year-old man [ S ] was arrested at a residential address in Ilford n suspicion of being concerned in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism under Section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000, at 20:36hrs on 9 June. He also remains in custody ...

 

[mariomike]

London Ambulance Service reviews terror attack protocol after 'run, hide, tell' advice made casualties hard to find.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-ambulance-service-to-review-terror-attack-protocol-after-run-hide-tell-advice-made-casualties-a3661616.html
A number of those caught up in the London Bridge attack were so well “barricaded” into hiding places in Borough Market that it took some time before they were found and given medical treatment.