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15 Jul 2016: Attempted Coup in Turkey + Aftermath

Brihard said:
Incur like airbase is closed to military operations. Problematic; the US has been flying a lot of anti-Daesh Ops out of there. It's also estimated to house around 50 forward deployed B61 nuclear gravity bombs. Erdogan has a potent bargaining chip at hand with which the demand the extradition of his political rival.

Erdogan needs to be very careful.  ATC authority or not, if the US tells Turkey, we're taking the bombs out of here, they're going, full stop.  If Erdogan tries, through his military to stop them, I would think that would have significant and long-lasting consequences for Turkey, both bilaterally and within the NATO Alliance.  :pop:

G2G
 
Thucydides said:
It is rather disturbing to see both:

a. How ineptly the coup was planed and executed, and;

b. Just who came out to oppose the coup.

This bodes rather ill for both Turkey, the region and relations with both the West, Russia and other regional powers:

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/16/why-turkeys-coup-detat-failed-erdogan/?utm_content=buffer59acc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Even more disturbing is who stayed on their balconies and videoed the ones who went into the streets. The secularists with their Western manners and clothes have a lot more to lose but seemed happy to be the first with the video on social media instead.  Turkey is lost as a NATO ally and NATO can't do a thing about it beyond limiting the new and regime approved Turk General staff to NATO secrets.   
 
Too bad they didn't pull the trigger, if true.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3694546/At-height-Turkish-coup-bid-rebel-jets-Erdogans-plane-sights.html
 
"NATO Secret"?  Kind of like NOFORN UNCLAS...not sure anything of true importance was ever discussed at 'just' NATO Secret. ???
 
And the round-up of the usual suspects isn't just confined to Turkey ...
Saudi authorities have detained the Turkish defense attaché to Kuwait at Ankara's request. Meanwhile, Germany has warned Erdogan that re-establishing capital punishment will derail EU membership talks.

Quoting unnamed Saudi sources, Saudi-owned broadcaster Al-Arabiya reported Monday that defense attaché Mikail Ihsanoglu was prevented from boarding a flight to Germany from the eastern Saudi city of Dammam.

Authorities said Ihsanoglu had entered Saudi Arabia by land and was ticketed for a flight to the city of Düsseldorf via Amsterdam but was arrested without incident inside the terminal.

It was not immediately clear what - if any - connections Ihsanoglu has in Düsseldorf or Germany in general.

"Saudi authorities are holding the military attaché for the Turkish embassy in Kuwait," the Saudi kingdom's Asharq Al-Awsat daily reported, quoting what it described as a foreign diplomatic source.

"He was stopped based on a Turkish request and was detained during his attempt to flee over his likely links to the coup in Turkey," the daily reported.

Turkey's ambassador in Kuwait, Salih Morat Tamer, told the Al-Qabas newspaper in Kuwait that Gullu is suspected of involvement in the coup attempt but stressed that "accusations against him are yet to be investigated once he is handed over to Turkey." ...
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ...
 
The purge of the police is extensive with 8000 told to turn in their weapons.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36824045
 
A 2nd coup attempt underway? In addition to these missing helos, the Daily Mail says that 14 warships are missing. I'm still double checking as of this posting.

Sputnik News

42 Helicopters Missing in Turkey Sparking Concerns of a Second Coup Attempt
© AFP 2016/ ADEM ALTAN News
17:26 17.07.2016(updated 08:29 18.07.2016)
At least 42 helicopters have gone missing from Turkey's military inventory in the wake of the failed coup attempt on Friday evening causing concern that there may be another act to the attempted overthrow of Erdogan.

CNN Turk anchor Serdar Tuncer reports that at least 42 helicopters have gone missing from the Turkish military inventory and says concern is brewing that another coup effort may soon be underway.

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S.M.A. said:
A 2nd coup attempt underway? In addition to these missing helos, the Daily Mail says that 14 warships are missing. I'm still double checking as of this posting.

Sputnik News
With the purge going on I would be surprised if there are enough trained capable military members left knowing how to order TP, never mind stag a second coup on a populace that rejected the first one.
 
I suspect the Turkish Police and Military pension funds will have a significantly less number to pay out in the near future.
 
S.M.A. said:
A 2nd coup attempt underway? In addition to these missing helos, the Daily Mail says that 14 warships are missing. I'm still double checking as of this posting.

Sputnik News

There is speculation that if Erdogan continues on the path he seems to be following, there could well be a second coup. The question will be when when will that line be crossed and will there be enough assets still around when it does get crossed.
 
Altair said:
With the purge going on I would be surprised if there are enough trained capable military members left knowing how to order TP, never mind stag a second coup on a populace that rejected the first one.

Sounds like this guy gave them a commission to carry on....

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's Address to Turkish Youth

Turkish Youth, Your first duty is to preserve and to defend Turkish Independence and the Turkish Republic forever. This is the very foundation of your existence and your future. This foundation is your most precious treasure. In the future, too, there may be malevolent people at home and abroad, who will wish to deprive you of this treasure. If some day you are compelled to defend your independence and your Republic, you must not hesitate to weigh the possibilities and circumstances of the situation before doing your duty. These possibilities and circumstances may turn out to be extremely unfavorable. The enemies conspiring against your independence and your Republic may have behind them a victory unprecedented in the annals of the world.

It may be that, by violence and trickery, all the fortresses of your beloved fatherland may be captured, all its shipyards occupied, all its armies dispersed and every corner of the country invaded. And sadder and graver than all these circumstances, those who hold power within the country may be in error, misguided and may even be traitors. Furthermore, they may identify personal interests with the political designs of the invaders. The country may be impoverished, ruined and exhausted. Youth of Turkey's future, even in such circumstances it is your duty to save Turkish Independence and the Republic. You will find the strength you need in your noble blood.

Ankara, 20th October 1927

http://www.allaboutturkey.com/ata_speech.htm
 
Signs things are starting to stabilize there?

Defense News

Turkey re-opens airspace for U.S. base, strikes against ISIS resume
Jeff Schogol and Oriana Pawlyk, Air Force Times 3:20 p.m. EDT July 19, 2016

This story was originally published July 17, 2016 at 11:05 a.m. EDT.

Turkey has re-opened airspace for Incirlik Air Base after a failed coup of the country's president. The move allows the U.S. to resume airstrikes against the Islamic State terrorist group in Iraq and Syria.

An MQ-1 Predator was the first aircraft to take off from Incirlik after the airspace was reopened, followed by a KC-135 tanker, said Lt. Col. Christopher Karns, a spokesman for U.S. Air Forces Central Command.
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Latest tally it appears that there were over 50,000 people invloved. In the coup, including over 15,000 people employed at universities and higher education.

It's amazing that a conspiracy that large never came to light before it got off the ground. :facepalm:
 
cupper said:
Latest tally it appears that there were over 50,000 people invloved. In the coup, including over 15,000 people employed at universities and higher education.

It's amazing that a conspiracy that large never came to light before it got off the ground. :facepalm:

It's a amazing a conspiracy that large failed. 
 
Obviously the plotters never heard of the "7 P's.  (proper planning and preparation prevents piss poor performance).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3695470/The-luxury-seaside-villa-owned-wealthy-playboy-Turkey-tyrant-Recep-Erdogan-escaped-30m-Gulfstream-jet-fifteen-minutes-three-Blackhawk-helicopters-carrying-special-forces-landed-KILL-HIM.html
 
Its clear that this was a false flag operation and now Erdogan is free to oust anyone he thinks isnt one of his people.A real coup would be small for secrecy and the first thing they would have done was grab the President and PM,cut off TV/Radio/Internet and move in the pre-dawn hours while people slept.Now the President is free establish his islamic republic complete with sharia law.Turkey will cease to be a tourist destination.
 
tomahawk6 said:
Its clear that this was a false flag operation and now Erdogan is free to oust anyone he thinks isnt one of his people.A real coup would be small for secrecy and the first thing they would have done was grab the President and PM,cut off TV/Radio/Internet and move in the pre-dawn hours while people slept.Now the President is free establish his islamic republic complete with sharia law.Turkey will cease to be a tourist destination.

It certainly had already ceased in my eyes once this Islamist took office a couple of years back.  Not interested in any country that is being run by one of them.
 
Erdogan isn't a true Islamist.  He's a dictator of the Hugo Chavez/Vlad Putin mold.

He uses the church and religion as a way to gain favour with the masses.  Putin does the exact same thing with the Russian Orthodox Church.
 
Humphrey Bogart said:
Erdogan isn't a true Islamist.  He's a dictator of the Hugo Chavez/Vlad Putin mold.

He uses the church and religion as a way to gain favour with the masses.  Putin does the exact same thing with the Russian Orthodox Church.

Potato/Potato as far as I'm concerned.  He might be a dictator in actuality (he's certainly a dick), but he's getting all the closet Islamists foaming at the mouth and out on the streets.  And that, my friend, is the same result as having an Islamist run the show.  Besides, I shaved off my moustache some years ago, I wouldn't blend in...
 
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