Procurement system expectation management.So they still have the shitty SA80 in the Army of the future?
Irony doesn't get much better than that
If you can't fix what's broken, it can't be made any worse?So they still have the shitty SA80 in the Army of the future?
Irony doesn't get much better than that
If you can't fix what's broken, it can't be made any worse?
Umm…whose side are you on?The British are missing a huge opportunity to offload their entire family of SA 80 weapon systems on the UKR 'for freedom' so they can buy a real rifle
I thought the A3 was supposed to have fixed all the bad crap.The British are missing a huge opportunity to offload their entire family of SA 80 weapon systems on the UKR 'for freedom' so they can buy a real rifle
I thought the A3 was supposed to have fixed all the bad crap.
SA80s go to Ukraine.The British are missing a huge opportunity to offload their entire family of SA 80 weapon systems on the UKR 'for freedom' so they can buy a real rifle
I never like bullpups after handling an Austrian Steyr once. Never touched the SA80.I know guys who've used it in action in AFG etc and sounded quite happy with it, so I'm basing my perceptions on the A1 version of course.
Still, I don't see other countries clamouring for the British to sell it to them, which is always a bad sign especially when you have dozens of defence associated commitments with other countries.
Also, anyone in the UK who can get out of using it - like the SAS etc - will be using the various versions of the C8 (go Canada!!) instead.
SAS - Weapons - C8 Carbine
Descirption, photos and info on the C8 carbine, as used by the Special Air servicewww.eliteukforces.info
Don’t know about the SA80 but I always thought the Steyr was balanced weirdly. Far too back-heavy.I never like bullpups after handling an Austrian Steyr once. Never touched the SA80.
Yeah. It just felt ... wrong. I never understood why the Aussies got it.Don’t know about the SA80 but I always thought the Steyr was balanced weirdly. Far too back-heavy.
I've used the SA 80 a few times. Once you get over where the mag housing is located and reaching over the wpn to cock it, it's a pretty good rifle. I think that I would prefer the SA 80 over the C8s that we are all supposed to be getting in the near future.
I did a little famil shoot on it in Afghanistan - Brits and us were sharing a range...thing kept jamming. Mind you, that was in 2003, still had that old piece of metal tube for a cocking handle instead of the ergonomic one and no rails for accessories so might have been an A1 variant.Don’t know about the SA80 but I always thought the Steyr was balanced weirdly. Far too back-heavy.
Beats me. The fact that you have to disassemble the damn thing to clear it (I kid you not) is weird too. You pull the barrel out and place it on top of the stock so the RSO can see down the thing.Yeah. It just felt ... wrong. I never understood why the Aussies got it.
I was surprised the Royal Marines adopted the C8 for general issue.Also, anyone in the UK who can get out of using it - like the SAS etc - will be using the various versions of the C8 (go Canada!!) instead.
SAS - Weapons - C8 Carbine
Descirption, photos and info on the C8 carbine, as used by the Special Air servicewww.eliteukforces.info
Well, if you're going to buy Colonial, might as well go with the Colony that kinda sorta stuck around...and the "C" in C8 could even stand for "Colonial" instead of "Canadian"I was surprised the Royal Marines adopted the C8 for general issue.
Talk about taking their rebranding seriously! We're so different, we don't even use those squabbie rifles anymore!"
Australia and New Zealand enter the chatWell, if you're going to buy Colonial, might as well go with the Colony that kinda sorta stuck around...
Ahhh, but the Brits didn't buy Oz or Kiwi guns...they bought our version of an American gun.Australia and New Zealand enter the chat