US, NATO Outta Afghanistan 2021

[Brad Sallows]

Culture matters, and not all cultures are equally ready for liberalization. End of story.

 

[Altair]

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Ones bad and ones worse.

 

[Altair]

All I'm saying is that if I were Ashraf Ghani, knowing what happened to Mohammed Najibullah, I would be calling Putin promising a lions share of the 1 trillion dollars of resources estimated to be extractable in return for doing what they did in Syria.

 

[Weinie]

All I'm saying is that if I were Ashraf Ghani, knowing what happened to Mohammed Najibullah, I would be calling Putin promising a lions share of the 1 trillion dollars of resources estimated to be extractable in return for doing what they did in Syria.

Mmmmmmmm, but the Russians already tried that.

 

[OldSolduer]

I was listening to the Roy Green show earlier today and his first subject was the repatriation of the Afghan interpreters.

I am truly afraid for their safety.

 

[Altair]

Mmmmmmmm, but the Russians already tried that.

The Russians tried to occupy Afghanistan. That didn't work.

I doubt Russia could occupy Syria either.

But relentlessly bombing the enemy regardless of civilian casualties until the local forces can occupy the territory, yeah, they are much better suited to that.

 

[Weinie]

The Russians tried to occupy Afghanistan. That didn't work.

I doubt Russia could occupy Syria either.

But relentlessly bombing the enemy regardless of civilian casualties until the local forces can occupy the territory, yeah, they are much better suited to that.

But, that goes against Liberal values.

 

[Altair]

But, that goes against Liberal values.

It sure does.

Good thing Russia doesn't give a damn about that.

Again, these are things I would be doing if I were Ashraf Ghani.

 

[MilEME09]

Civilians Heard Screaming as Battle for Kabul Begins

Footage recorded by an Afghan Civilian shows the beginning of the Battle of Kabul which is taking place right now. Civilians in the streets can be heard screaming as gunfire erupts in all directions.

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The Taliban have begun their assault on Kabul, the question is, will it hold?

 

[Altair]

Civilians Heard Screaming as Battle for Kabul Begins

Footage recorded by an Afghan Civilian shows the beginning of the Battle of Kabul which is taking place right now. Civilians in the streets can be heard screaming as gunfire erupts in all directions.

funker530.com

The Taliban have begun their assault on Kabul, the question is, will it hold?

Would they really begin attacking Kabul with 3000 US troops,600 British troops, and however many Canadian CANSOF in the capital?

 

[medic5]

Optimist.

Crap. I really did think the Afghan government would last a little longer. Right now it looks like it will last negative 1 month after the US withdraws.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Would they really begin attacking Kabul with 3000 US troops,600 British troops, and however many Canadian CANSOF in the capital?

Oh hell yeah... that's a drop in the ocean because anyone who doesn't want their heads chopped off will be trying to kill westerners to prove their loyalty...

Former CENTCOM commander says US 'may have underestimated' Taliban's 'planning capabilities'​

The Taliban’s successful military operations this week may have come because the United States “underestimated” the group’s “planning capabilities,” according to one former CENTCOM commander.

Former U.S. CENTCOM commander Gen. Joseph Votel told the Washington Examiner in an interview that he has been “very, very surprised” by the “speed” with which the Taliban has captured 14 of Afghanistan's 34 provincial capitals as well as Kandahar and Herat.

Former CENTCOM commander says US 'may have underestimated' Taliban's 'planning capabilities'

The Taliban’s successful military operations this week may have come because the United States “underestimated” the group’s “planning capabilities,” according to one former CENTCOM commander.

news.yahoo.com

 

[Altair]

Oh hell yeah... that's a drop in the ocean because anyone who doesn't want their heads chopped off will be trying to kill westerners to prove their loyalty...

Former CENTCOM commander says US 'may have underestimated' Taliban's 'planning capabilities'​

The Taliban’s successful military operations this week may have come because the United States “underestimated” the group’s “planning capabilities,” according to one former CENTCOM commander.

Former U.S. CENTCOM commander Gen. Joseph Votel told the Washington Examiner in an interview that he has been “very, very surprised” by the “speed” with which the Taliban has captured 14 of Afghanistan's 34 provincial capitals as well as Kandahar and Herat.

Former CENTCOM commander says US 'may have underestimated' Taliban's 'planning capabilities'

The Taliban’s successful military operations this week may have come because the United States “underestimated” the group’s “planning capabilities,” according to one former CENTCOM commander.

news.yahoo.com

Well, that's stupid.

Kabul likely falls without too much fuss after western forces leave within the week.

Right now those western forces are very capable of giving any attacking force a very bloody nose for their trouble.

 

[Maxman1]

Maybe our prime minister could don some traditional afghani clothes and go visit. Do some dancing, maybe broker a peace deal. Could even mean a seat on the UN security council.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

All I'm saying is that if I were Ashraf Ghani, knowing what happened to Mohammed Najibullah, I would be calling Putin promising a lions share of the 1 trillion dollars of resources estimated to be extractable in return for doing what they did in Syria.

You're comparing apples and oranges. The conditions that exist in Syria don't exist in Afghanistan and saying the same strategy would work is deeply flawed.

 

[Altair]

You're comparing apples and oranges. The conditions that exist in Syria don't exist in Afghanistan and saying the same strategy would work is deeply flawed.

Everything about the current situation is deeply flawed.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

Everything about the current situation is deeply flawed.

That we can both agree on.

 

[Remius]

All I'm saying is that if I were Ashraf Ghani, knowing what happened to Mohammed Najibullah, I would be calling Putin promising a lions share of the 1 trillion dollars of resources estimated to be extractable in return for doing what they did in Syria.

Well given that he has left the country maybe he went to Russia and could ask him Personally.

Taliban sweep into Afghan capital Kabul as government collapses, President Ashraf Ghani flees country

Taliban to hold talks in the coming days aimed at forming an ‘open, inclusive Islamic government’

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[The Bread Guy]

Too many stereotypical moments/images ....

• Yesterday: "Regrouping the military ‘a top priority’, Afghan president says"
• Today: "Taliban orders fighters to enter Kabul after President Ashraf Ghani leaves for Tajikistan"

And now, this

 

[The Bread Guy]

And this, from the Taliban info-machine, less than an hour ago via Twitter (Google translated - screen capture in Farsi attached) - narrative: we hear the cops are all running away, so our boys are just going in to prevent looting and other nastiness ....

Declaration of the Islamic Emirate on the need for Mujahideen to enter Kabul

The Islamic Emirate issued a statement in the morning stating that our forces are out of Kabul and we do not want to enter Kabul militarily.

But now there are reports that districts in Kabul have been evacuated, police have left their job of providing security, ministries have been evacuated, and security personnel from the Kabul administration have fled. So that God forbid the common thieves and robbers in Kabul do not mix, the abusers do not harm the people, the Islamic Emirate ordered its forces to enter the areas of Kabul from where the enemy and areas There is a risk of theft and robbery.

Therefore, the citizens of Kabul should not feel any fear from the Mujahideen, our forces will enter Kabul city very easily, they will not work with anyone, government military and civilian users should make sure that no one uses them, no Mujahideen You are not allowed to enter anyone's home, or to harass or annoy anyone.

Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan