Trust in our Institutions
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Or the Feenstra family lol
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People commenting on stuff without knowing the whole story? Never ...
www.thecanadianpressnews.ca
Elected leaders should read Supreme Court decisions before speaking, says top justice
OTTAWA - The chief justice of the Supreme Court sent a warning Monday about the risks elected officials run by reacting to decisions from the court without first having read
GK .Dundas
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Not just politicians, that tends to be good advice.
On the other hand, well this is the INTERNET.
On the other hand, well this is the INTERNET.
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MPs 'wittingly' took part in foreign interference: national security committee
Some MPs began 'wittingly assisting' foreign state actors soon after their election, says a report released Monday, including sending confidential information to Indian officials.
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Sadly, yes - a titch more from the info-machine ....Does this fit here?
MPs 'wittingly' took part in foreign interference: national security committee
Some MPs began 'wittingly assisting' foreign state actors soon after their election, says a report released Monday, including sending confidential information to Indian officials.
Report (English) also attached.
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Does this fit here?
MPs 'wittingly' took part in foreign interference: national security committee
Some MPs began 'wittingly assisting' foreign state actors soon after their election, says a report released Monday, including sending confidential information to Indian officials.
Traitors.
Halifax Tar
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We used to have a punishment for that.
OldSolduer
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Honestly I am not shocked that a sitting MP would do this. There is always one in every institution.
Good luck with that!
FIRST READING: Supreme Court decision opts for 'person with a vagina' over 'woman'
A decision in a sexual assault case implied that the complainant should be properly known as a "person with a vagina"nationalpost.com
FIRST READING: Supreme Court decision says the word 'woman' is confusing, 'unfortunate'
A decision in a sexual assault case implied that the complainant should be properly known as a 'person with a vagina'
Next time you're in a room with more than a few women in it, make a comment bur refer to them as "people with vaginas" and see how well that works out for ya
(We HAVE to be living in a simulation guys and gals (Sorry, I meant people with vaginas - my apologies to anybody who was confused about who I meant!)
(There's no way that people who did well in university, got into law school, passed the bar, became lawyers, then became judges, and worked their way up to the Supreme Court can be THIS ridiculously dumb. Like there's just no way...)
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Good luck with that!
Next time you're in a room with more than a few women in it, make a comment bur refer to them as "people with vaginas" and see how well that works out for ya
(We HAVE to be living in a simulation guys and gals (Sorry, I meant people with vaginas - my apologies to anybody who was confused about who I meant!)
(There's no way that people who did well in university, got into law school, passed the bar, became lawyers, then became judges, and worked their way up to the Supreme Court can be THIS ridiculously dumb. Like there's just no way...)
The author of the National Post
In the SC's decision, "woman" was used 26 other times without any suggestion that it be replaced by the other descriptive phrase. Similarly, "vagina" was used 40 other times also without making it part of that phrase. Penis, anal and penetration are also liberally used in the court's written decision. So one can reasonably assume what the referenced cases were about.
If one can't be bothered to read the decision, my unlearned take on it is, the Court of Appeal overturned two convictions because they decided that two judges erred by making assumptions that had not been presented as evidence by the Crown or in the testimony of the victim. In what was probably the reference to "unfortunate" use of the word "woman", the trial judge (a man) had concluded it was unlikely that a "woman" would be mistaken about the feeling of penile-vaginal penetration. The Court of Appeal had focused on that assumption and decided since no evidence had been provided on "how" that specific victim, when she testified, had known the slimy piece of shit who raped her (my personal opinion) was inside her, then the trial judge had engaged in speculative reasoning not based on the evidence and thus new trials had been ordered. The Supreme Court basically said the Appeals Court was wrong and ordered the convictions restored.
The only one who is suggesting that "person with a vagina" will be the new term in law is the idiot who wrote the drivel in the NP.
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In re "current standards of journalism".
Scandal has been the stock in trade of the press since Gutenberg. And probably since court circulars were written on papyrus and clay.
People are what they have always been.
Scandal has been the stock in trade of the press since Gutenberg. And probably since court circulars were written on papyrus and clay.
People are what they have always been.
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Precisely!
Some real fucking low-information people out there just looking to rage about anything
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See here for more
In the attached judgment, "woman" or "women" was used 69 times, and "person with a vagina" was used once.Elected leaders should read Supreme Court decisions before speaking, says top justice
OTTAWA - The chief justice of the Supreme Court sent a warning Monday about the risks elected officials run by reacting to decisions from the court without first having read
No shortage of stuff to blast out there, but there's gotta be bigger fish to fry than this one, no?
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Yeah, like cray cray folks complaining about rainbows
Rainbow dock in B.C. town sparks petition seeking return to ‘previous state’ | Globalnews.ca
The District of Clearwater financially supported the dock's staining, saying it shows support for the local Pride group and reflects the town's commitment to inclusivity.
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Team Red's initial response?Does this fit here?
MPs 'wittingly' took part in foreign interference: national security committee
Some MPs began 'wittingly assisting' foreign state actors soon after their election, says a report released Monday, including sending confidential information to Indian officials.
Freeland says committee finding that some MPs aided foreign interference 'concerning'
OTTAWA - Canada's deputy prime minister says the finding that some Canadian members of Parliament were "wittingly" helping foreign state actors is "concerning," but she trusts that law enforcement will
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Not even deeply concerning.Team Red's initial response?
View attachment 85750Freeland says committee finding that some MPs aided foreign interference 'concerning'
OTTAWA - Canada's deputy prime minister says the finding that some Canadian members of Parliament were "wittingly" helping foreign state actors is "concerning," but she trusts that law enforcement will
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Nothing breeds trust in our institutions like gag orders.
Watchdog says he's under 'gag' order over Liberal government's secret carbon-tax analysis
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"CSIS collected, analyzed, and reported intelligence about activities that it considered to be significant threats to national security; one of the primary consumers of that reporting (and the de facto conduit of intelligence to the Prime Minister) disagreed with that assessment."
Wesley Wark, one of Canada's foremost experts on national security, said Tuesday the NSCIOP report reveals "underbelly stories" that are "nausea-inducing." He cited one account in the report that said an unnamed MP consorted with a foreign intelligence officer, sought to arrange an overseas meeting and "provided the intelligence officer with information provided in confidence." Wark called that scenario "textbook treason."
I'm moderately surprised and pleased with CBC's reporting on this.
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It's lookin uglier and uglier:
nationalpost.com
Let's see if the general population in Canada even cares... I'm guessing no.
“The Committee rejects any notion that the individual or individuals responsible for the leaks acted as patriots or whistleblowers,” the NISCOP report states.<--TROUBLING “On the other hand, the Committee acknowledges an uncomfortable truth. Prior to the leaks, there was little sense of urgency between elected officials and senior decision-makers to address outstanding gaps to this important and well-documented threat to national security.”
The CSIS leaks, which began appearing in Global News, the Globe and Mail and other mainstream news media in November, 2022, were “the principal catalyst for the government to start considering key legislative reforms and to take meaningful actions against particular states.”
The NSICOP report presents several case studies to illustrate the way foreign interference works in Canada. One of those studies focuses on the case of Don Valley North MP Han Dong, the subject of a series of CSIS leaks. Dong stepped away from the Liberal Party in March last year following evidence that he was a central figure in a massive Chinese interference operation that targeted at least 11 candidates and 13 campaign staffers, “some of whom appeared to be wittingly working for the PRC,” the NSICOP report states.
Although heavily redacted, as is much of NISCOP’s 92-page report, the Han Dong case study contains sharper and far more damning detail than has emerged from news reports going back to 2022, and also calls into question Trudeau’s sworn testimony during the Hogue inquiry hearings in April.
NSICOP describes Dong’s case as an example of a successful direct foreign manipulation of a close-run Liberal candidacy contest that went on to produce the Chinese government’s desired election result in the 2019 federal election in Don Valley North. The CSIS investigation made available to NSICOP showed that Beijing’s Toronto consulate provided between 175 and 200 Chinese foreign students with “fraudulent residency paperwork” and arranged for them to travel in several buses to the September 12, 2019 nomination vote. The students, who were under strict instruction to vote for Dong under penalty of losing their student visas, also “sought to physically intimidate voters and distribute pro-Dong materials,” contrary to Party rules, the report states.
The Toronto consulate also “knowingly broke the Liberal Party of Canada’s rule that voters in a nomination process must live in the riding.”
CSIS concluded that the operation played a “significant role in Mr. Dong’s nomination, which he won. . . by a small margin,” thereby “successfully interfering in the nomination process of what can be considered a safe riding for the Liberal Party of Canada.”
CSIS saw to it that Prime Minister Trudeau and his officials were made aware of Beijing’s operation in Don Valley North before the 2019 election, but Trudeau allowed Dong’s candidacy to stand anyway, and Dong was also allowed to run again in 2021. The NSICOP case committee concludes: “On September 28, 2019, CSIS briefed the Liberal Party of Canada’s secret-cleared representatives on its assessment, who in turn briefed the PM alone the following day. The Liberal Party of Canada allowed Mr. Dong to run in both the 2019 and 2021 federal elections.”
Despite intense controversy and repeated questioning about Dong’s candidacy going back to February 2023, for more than a year Trudeau said nothing about having been briefed by CSIS about the matter and instead dismissed concerns about Han Dong’s candidacy as “anti-Asian racism.”
Terry Glavin: It isn't 'foreign interference' if the culprits are willing MPs
Senior politicians are colluding with China or India — this is beyond scandalous
nationalpost.com
Let's see if the general population in Canada even cares... I'm guessing no.
“The Committee rejects any notion that the individual or individuals responsible for the leaks acted as patriots or whistleblowers,” the NISCOP report states.<--TROUBLING “On the other hand, the Committee acknowledges an uncomfortable truth. Prior to the leaks, there was little sense of urgency between elected officials and senior decision-makers to address outstanding gaps to this important and well-documented threat to national security.”
The CSIS leaks, which began appearing in Global News, the Globe and Mail and other mainstream news media in November, 2022, were “the principal catalyst for the government to start considering key legislative reforms and to take meaningful actions against particular states.”
The NSICOP report presents several case studies to illustrate the way foreign interference works in Canada. One of those studies focuses on the case of Don Valley North MP Han Dong, the subject of a series of CSIS leaks. Dong stepped away from the Liberal Party in March last year following evidence that he was a central figure in a massive Chinese interference operation that targeted at least 11 candidates and 13 campaign staffers, “some of whom appeared to be wittingly working for the PRC,” the NSICOP report states.
Although heavily redacted, as is much of NISCOP’s 92-page report, the Han Dong case study contains sharper and far more damning detail than has emerged from news reports going back to 2022, and also calls into question Trudeau’s sworn testimony during the Hogue inquiry hearings in April.
NSICOP describes Dong’s case as an example of a successful direct foreign manipulation of a close-run Liberal candidacy contest that went on to produce the Chinese government’s desired election result in the 2019 federal election in Don Valley North. The CSIS investigation made available to NSICOP showed that Beijing’s Toronto consulate provided between 175 and 200 Chinese foreign students with “fraudulent residency paperwork” and arranged for them to travel in several buses to the September 12, 2019 nomination vote. The students, who were under strict instruction to vote for Dong under penalty of losing their student visas, also “sought to physically intimidate voters and distribute pro-Dong materials,” contrary to Party rules, the report states.
The Toronto consulate also “knowingly broke the Liberal Party of Canada’s rule that voters in a nomination process must live in the riding.”
CSIS concluded that the operation played a “significant role in Mr. Dong’s nomination, which he won. . . by a small margin,” thereby “successfully interfering in the nomination process of what can be considered a safe riding for the Liberal Party of Canada.”
CSIS saw to it that Prime Minister Trudeau and his officials were made aware of Beijing’s operation in Don Valley North before the 2019 election, but Trudeau allowed Dong’s candidacy to stand anyway, and Dong was also allowed to run again in 2021. The NSICOP case committee concludes: “On September 28, 2019, CSIS briefed the Liberal Party of Canada’s secret-cleared representatives on its assessment, who in turn briefed the PM alone the following day. The Liberal Party of Canada allowed Mr. Dong to run in both the 2019 and 2021 federal elections.”
Despite intense controversy and repeated questioning about Dong’s candidacy going back to February 2023, for more than a year Trudeau said nothing about having been briefed by CSIS about the matter and instead dismissed concerns about Han Dong’s candidacy as “anti-Asian racism.”
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