Soldier Operational Clothing and Equipment Modernization

[dimsum]

I think they were more commenting on the fact that in 24 years we haven’t successfully completed our transition to CADPAT

I get that - what I’m suggesting is that goal may not be as important as it…uh…looks.

Pun intended.

Another aircrew example - 1 Wing folks wear CADPAT flight suits and jackets. But it’s not an “all 1 Wg aircrew shall wear CADPAT everything”. So there are folks wearing OD green flight suits and CADPAT jackets, folks wearing all CADPAT gear, and presumably some folks wearing CADPAT flight suits and OD jackets. I don’t think anyone is really complaining there.

 

[PuckChaser]

Depends if we want to be a military or bunch of airsofters/mercenaries. A professional military has a common uniform, period. Accepting mixed clothing 10+ years later when we've made a fundamental change to something like camouflage pattern is accepting garbage funding from GoC and poor project management from CAF/DND.

 

[Kilted]

Is there any indication of how this transition will work. I missed the OD combats by a couple years, but still used a ton of OD stuff. (My gortex gloves and biv pants are still OD). Will this be issued out unit by unit to try and avoid having different uniforms, or is this going to be like the improved combat uniform role our where they won't give you the new stuff till your old stuff is worn out.

I heard a rumor the other day that I could bring my GEN III Cadpat in and they would exchange it for the ICU no questions asked. I think the ICU came out ten years ago and I still have a couple sets of the old stuff.

 

[RedFive]

I heard a rumor the other day that I could bring my GEN III Cadpat in and they would exchange it for the ICU no questions asked. I think the ICU came out ten years ago and I still have a couple sets of the old stuff.

On my last visit to clothing stores I was issued a tunic that was made in 2002, and had the very first CADPAT cut of the old pockets, no button covers. Nearly see through.

I'm not holding my breath.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

I still have Gen 1 CADPAT with the FN mag pockets…

 

[Jarnhamar]

Another aircrew example - 1 Wing folks wear CADPAT flight suits and jackets. But it’s not an “all 1 Wg aircrew shall wear CADPAT everything”. So there are folks wearing OD green flight suits and CADPAT jackets, folks wearing all CADPAT gear, and presumably some folks wearing CADPAT flight suits and OD jackets. I don’t think anyone is really complaining there.

One of the points I read about the new camouflage pattern was the need for it due to the increased threat on the battlefield and enemy surveillance capability (or something along those lines).

 

[markppcli]

I get that - what I’m suggesting is that goal may not be as important as it…uh…looks.

Pun intended.

Another aircrew example - 1 Wing folks wear CADPAT flight suits and jackets. But it’s not an “all 1 Wg aircrew shall wear CADPAT everything”. So there are folks wearing OD green flight suits and CADPAT jackets, folks wearing all CADPAT gear, and presumably some folks wearing CADPAT flight suits and OD jackets. I don’t think anyone is really complaining there.

If we just made parkas in OD I’d have no issue with it. It’s simply that we, logistically, haven’t managed to get the job done.

 

[dimsum]

So, when this gets rolled out eventually, is there going to be an RCAF-wide call for aircrew (who most likely haven’t worn CADPAT since before they got their wings) to finally return their 4 sets of CADPAT that’s been sitting in a box?

 

[Furniture]

So, when this gets rolled out eventually, is there going to be an RCAF-wide call for aircrew (who most likely haven’t worn CADPAT since before they got their wings) to finally return their 4 sets of CADPAT that’s been sitting in a box?

Just because CFSU(O) is terrible, I plan to return my CADPAT one piece at a time over the next year...

Getting taxi chits for each trip now that the shuttle is done.

 

[BDTyre]

Is there any indication of how this transition will work. I missed the OD combats by a couple years, but still used a ton of OD stuff. (My gortex gloves and biv pants are still OD). Will this be issued out unit by unit to try and avoid having different uniforms, or is this going to be like the improved combat uniform role our where they won't give you the new stuff till your old stuff is worn out.

I heard a rumor the other day that I could bring my GEN III Cadpat in and they would exchange it for the ICU no questions asked. I think the ICU came out ten years ago and I still have a couple sets of the old stuff.

My clothing stores will only issue the "current" CADPAT if you're deploying, in recruiting or public affairs. Everyone else gets the old four-pocket, button cuff shirts. Pants tend to be more current.

 

[dapaterson]

My clothing stores will only issue the "current" CADPAT if you're deploying, in recruiting or public affairs. Everyone else gets the old four-pocket, button cuff shirts. Pants tend to be more current.

Currently there is no funding to replace in service uniforms because "someone wants something new and nifty".

 

[Halifax Tar]

My clothing stores will only issue the "current" CADPAT if you're deploying, in recruiting or public affairs. Everyone else gets the old four-pocket, button cuff shirts. Pants tend to be more current.

Clothing stores don't, or shouldn't, be making these decisions. These are supposed to directions coming down from BIG Army and ADM(MAT).

 

[BDTyre]

Clothing stores don't, or shouldn't, be making these decisions. These are supposed to directions coming down from BIG Army and ADM(MAT).

They seem to think they can - we had a guy get a brand new ECU shirt by having the Padre send him an email saying he needs it to show off his Sentinel patch. He printed it off and showed it to clothing stores, and they made an exception for him.

 

[dapaterson]

They seem to think they can - we had a guy get a brand new ECU shirt by having the Padre send him an email saying he needs it to show off his Sentinel patch. He printed it off and showed it to clothing stores, and they made an exception for him.

Clothing stores should have shown him the door.

 

[KevinB]

They seem to think they can - we had a guy get a brand new ECU shirt by having the Padre send him an email saying he needs it to show off his Sentinel patch. He printed it off and showed it to clothing stores, and they made an exception for him.

Yes solid operational reason

 

[OceanBonfire]

5 CMBG rolled out in CADPAT (MT):

https://www.facebook.com/5GBMC.5CMBG/posts/pfbid02mzH4XYbJZVzRYez7Sx8kRuLQDvE9UiBjL9gz3mUgLjEv85AJRU3gQYswjWR1sBJ9l

 

[daftandbarmy]

5 CMBG rolled out in CADPAT (MT):

https://www.facebook.com/5GBMC.5CMBG/posts/pfbid02mzH4XYbJZVzRYez7Sx8kRuLQDvE9UiBjL9gz3mUgLjEv85AJRU3gQYswjWR1sBJ9l

Looks great/ formidable!

 

[PrairieFella]

When is the new stuff supposed to roll out? This is still the interim stuff right?

 

[OceanBonfire]

When is the new stuff supposed to roll out? This is still the interim stuff right?

https://www.facebook.com/canadianarmy/posts/733356848959138

Canadian Army on Instagram: "Introducing a new icon and refreshed tagline for the Canadian Army, featuring the new CADPAT MT (Multi-Terrain) pattern. It is designed to complement our official Canadian Army logo. To discover more about the CADPAT MT,

5,250 likes, 343 comments - canadianarmy on May 3, 2024: "Introducing a new icon and refreshed tagline for the Canadian Army, featuring the new CADPAT MT (Multi-Terrain) pattern. It is designed t...".

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CADPAT Multi-Terrain (MT) Modernized Combat Uniform - Canada.ca

The Modernized Combat Uniform (MCU) will see the new Canadian Disruptive Pattern Multi-Terrain, or CADPAT (MT), camouflage pattern used in production of updated Combat Uniforms. Issuing is beginning in February 2024, based on operational requirement, generally going to the highest readiness...

www.canada.ca

 

[MilEME09]

3 Div is already seeing it for the units deploying this year, I imagine the rest will follow some time shortly there after