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That too.
Who wants CADPAT rain gear!?!
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Just for clarification, the Air Force is NOT to blame for the army not having cadpat raingear, the army is. Full stop.
You see, each year the army buys "stuff". That "stuff" is on a priority list. Let's say that the Cadpat Raingear is number five. So, they buy in order from one on down. Too easy. The problem is that whenever a Urgent Operational Requirement comes in, it trumps all "stuff" on that list and delays it. So, even though the gear is approved for purchase and on "the list" ("Let me in: I'm on the list"), if Mick Jagger and Donald Trump show up at the club you're about to enter, well, the rope is pulled back for them and you remain outside, standing in the rain and getting wet (If you follow my analogy). So, the problem is the process of procurement. And perhaps the lack of a controlling agency that says "OK, that's not really a Urgent Operational Requirement, that's a Nice to have Might be OK wish list, so we'll get the raingear first (after all, it's still raining in Valcartier), THEN we'll be the supersleek anti-radiation Oakleys with rainbow effect later"
You see, each year the army buys "stuff". That "stuff" is on a priority list. Let's say that the Cadpat Raingear is number five. So, they buy in order from one on down. Too easy. The problem is that whenever a Urgent Operational Requirement comes in, it trumps all "stuff" on that list and delays it. So, even though the gear is approved for purchase and on "the list" ("Let me in: I'm on the list"), if Mick Jagger and Donald Trump show up at the club you're about to enter, well, the rope is pulled back for them and you remain outside, standing in the rain and getting wet (If you follow my analogy). So, the problem is the process of procurement. And perhaps the lack of a controlling agency that says "OK, that's not really a Urgent Operational Requirement, that's a Nice to have Might be OK wish list, so we'll get the raingear first (after all, it's still raining in Valcartier), THEN we'll be the supersleek anti-radiation Oakleys with rainbow effect later"
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Lightfighter Forum ICE Hardshell jacket review
I received my alpha green ICE hardshell a little over 2 weeks ago and thought I would post my impression after having used it. After reviewing the specs and looking at the other options I felt this jacket was the best design to suit my needs. Those design features include large front pockets big enough to hold a 10"X10" folded topo map or air photo. Very few jackets out there except the old ECWCS parka seem to have this feature. I also am tired of wearing something adorned with big logos and other non necessary embroidery putting holes in my waterproof breathable shell. The alpha green is non descript and non military or police looking. So far everyone has commented favourably on my new biking jacket. The cut is nice, no bulk but very roomy for layering. There are no unnecessary stiches or seams and all necessary seams are taped. I asked about some modifications to the basic design and got what I wanted. That is reinforced elbows and forearms on the sleeves, reinforced shoulders and two inside zippered pockets. The result is a very bombproof jacket ideally suited to my needs. The price was much cheaper than other high quality shells except for ECWCS shell. It took a little less than 2 months of waiting but I was always recieved a prompt response to my inquiries. The velcro on the generous sleeve pockets is nice to temporarily attach reflective stips when necessary and also personalize the jacket with my national or provincial flag or other emblems without putting holes in the shell fabric.
For functionality this waterproof/breathable is the best I have ever worn. With a little patience on my part ICE came through with a custom hardshell that suits my needs. A nice change from being forced to take what someone else thinks is the best design.
Lightfighter forum ICE hardshell jacket review
Zipper, can you handle the spoon yourself now? ;D
I received my alpha green ICE hardshell a little over 2 weeks ago and thought I would post my impression after having used it. After reviewing the specs and looking at the other options I felt this jacket was the best design to suit my needs. Those design features include large front pockets big enough to hold a 10"X10" folded topo map or air photo. Very few jackets out there except the old ECWCS parka seem to have this feature. I also am tired of wearing something adorned with big logos and other non necessary embroidery putting holes in my waterproof breathable shell. The alpha green is non descript and non military or police looking. So far everyone has commented favourably on my new biking jacket. The cut is nice, no bulk but very roomy for layering. There are no unnecessary stiches or seams and all necessary seams are taped. I asked about some modifications to the basic design and got what I wanted. That is reinforced elbows and forearms on the sleeves, reinforced shoulders and two inside zippered pockets. The result is a very bombproof jacket ideally suited to my needs. The price was much cheaper than other high quality shells except for ECWCS shell. It took a little less than 2 months of waiting but I was always recieved a prompt response to my inquiries. The velcro on the generous sleeve pockets is nice to temporarily attach reflective stips when necessary and also personalize the jacket with my national or provincial flag or other emblems without putting holes in the shell fabric.
For functionality this waterproof/breathable is the best I have ever worn. With a little patience on my part ICE came through with a custom hardshell that suits my needs. A nice change from being forced to take what someone else thinks is the best design.
Lightfighter forum ICE hardshell jacket review
Zipper, can you handle the spoon yourself now? ;D
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Kal said:
I think you've just been served
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Kal said:
Got the spoon, can you handle the zipper by yourself?
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We're working on a CADPAT softshell. Malden will move as soon as DND pretends they want a softshell garment. Would you guys like to see TW or Arid?
Hobey
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The Arid Marpat was made for the Combat Desert Jacket. They can't sell the fabric outside of US marine contracts. Malden has sampled some Cadpat Powershield but there is no DND requirement for it so Malden won't invest in commercialising the fabric, unless someone pops for a couple thousand yards.
Hobey
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Operational requirement.
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