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Venezuelan Patrol Ship Sunk Itself After Ramming A Cruise Liner

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brihard

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Sucks when you try to engage in an act of piracy and accidentally sink your own ship. That's a fail.
 

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Brihard said:
Sucks when you try to engage in an act of piracy and accidentally sink your own ship. That's a fail.

The Eternal Hugo Chavez tells a story all in itself.

These guys are worse than the old USSR when it comes to naming ships 🚢
 

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Could have spent a moment surfing on MarineTraffic.com to check out Resolute’s IMO info...several inches of high-strength steel (RCGS Resolute) vs 1/4” steel (ANBV Naiguatá) Tells you who’s probably going to win a game of nautical rock-scissors-paper.

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Venezuelan Minister of Defense Vladimir Padrino also described the cruise ship's actions as an "act of imperial aggression" and "piracy."

I don't think "imperial" means what they think it means.
 

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Cruise ship is currently docked in Curaca according to AIS, interesting they did not pick up the sailors, although I can't say I blame them. I wonder if they painted a warship on their stack?  8)
 

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Builders video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=8Qy6IIMh7eo&feature=emb_logo

I'm starting to think you may not want to buy a Navantia product.  They were short listed for the CSC. The count is two naval ships sunk in a year. 
 

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Colin P said:
Cruise ship is currently docked in Curaca according to AIS, interesting they did not pick up the sailors, although I can't say I blame them. I wonder if they painted a warship on their stack?  8)

Oh you got a laugh from me -despite the nature of the event.

I am going to hell..... :facepalm:
 

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Spencer100 said:
Builders video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=8Qy6IIMh7eo&feature=emb_logo

I'm starting to think you may not want to buy a Navantia product.  They were short listed for the CSC. The count is two naval ships sunk in a year.

That was one of the least inspiring builder videos I’ve seen in a while.
 

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Hamish Seggie said:
Oh you got a laugh from me -despite the nature of the event.

I am going to hell..... :facepalm:

Save me a seat, since I was HOWLING as I read that...and looking at the pictures of the of the scratches on the cruise ship.  What was it Tsun Tzu said about knowing your enemy?

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Here is a jpeg image (courtesy of Fleetmon website)showing the RCGS Resolute's track as it passed Isla La Tortuga (No map scale).
 

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medicineman said:
Save me a seat, since I was HOWLING as I read that...and looking at the pictures of the of the scratches on the cruise ship.  What was it Tsun Tzu said about knowing your enemy?

MM

Probably something like 'size matters' :)
 

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Good2Golf said:
That was one of the least inspiring builder videos I’ve seen in a while.

Was it just me or does it appear the 76mm jammed on that round and is stuck in full recoil?
 

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Colin P said:
Was it just me or does it appear the 76mm jammed on that round and is stuck in full recoil?

There were so many shots of the 76 turning into what I thought was going to be an action sequence of at least firing a few rapid shots....then there’s that static facing-forward clip and it fires once with a quick cutaway... *yawn*

Re: Resolute’s track...weren’t they doing engine maintenance?  Isn’t the inner line the 12nm?  It looks like she never entered Territorial Waters...
 

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Colin P said:
Was it just me or does it appear the 76mm jammed on that round and is stuck in full recoil?

I looked at it closely and it looked to me like the gun uses a "soft recoil" system (Fire Out Of Battery) like the HMMWV mounted 105mm Hawkeye. The gun barrel was slightly back and moved forward before it actually fired.

In a soft recoil system the gun is restrained back out of battery as its normal position; on firing it is first released and moves forward, the round then fires and drives it backwards where it is once again caught and held out of battery. The system creates a softer recoil so that it can use a lighter mount.

Edited to add: The gun is an OTO Melara 76 mm. There's a pretty good video clip on the gun my Matsimus and if you watch the clips you will see several scenes where some versions of the gun ends fire in Out of Battery and moves forward before it fires. (Others fire in-battery)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpery6d1qLg

It's a very widely used weapon system.

:cheers:

 

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That was the 280’s fitment, wasn’t it?
 

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Good2Golf said:
That was the 280’s fitment, wasn’t it?

Yup; it is a pretty widely used naval gun.  There is a pretty long list on the wiki; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTO_Melara_76_mm

Was really handy when we had problems with it and were near Norfolk; they had specialists in the USN with 20 years experience on that specific gun system from the OHPs. They did some of their own 3rd line work, so had even more training and experience than our FMFs, and were wizards at diagnosing the problems. They also had enough time at sea that they had all kinds of tricks to keep it going so was pretty neat to see them go.  In general, having common equipment with the USN is great for that, and never had anything but help from them. Pulling into their base was always like visiting that friend with a sweet workshop, the best tools and great handskills for help.

The super rapid fire loading system was something to see as well, was a neat bit of hydraulics and engineering.
 

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A little more.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/venezuelan-naval-boat-rams-cruise-liner-damages-itself-sinks/ar-BB128wHN?ocid=spartanntp

Venezuela thought they were carrying mercenaries to invade.  :rofl:
 

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