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VAC Return to Lifetime Pensions Discussion

reveng

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Did you check under "Payment History"? Apparently on whatever planet VAC comes from, 29 April 2019 is already historical.

Hope that helps Moe.
 

Kokanee

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mine was scheduled for 29 april, now says 30 may...... seems they are fudging the timelines a bit.
 

reveng

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I see 30 May under "Current benefits" but 29 April shows up under "Payment History". I'm assuming it's entered in the system and should go into well-deserving bank accounts on 29 April.

Fingers crossed.
 

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DetectiveMcNulty said:
Did you check under "Payment History"? Apparently on whatever planet VAC comes from, 29 April 2019 is already historical.

Hope that helps Moe.

Seen.  Thanks.
 

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What a slap in the fucking face.

Can't wait for October.....
 

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My son in law (late 40's YOA) put in a claim last Oct for PTSD related to his first tour in Afghanistan. He received a Pension For Life letter yesterday for less than $300 @ 27%. Why PFL when this was his first claim and submitted prior to 31 Mar 19?
 

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Rifleman62 said:
My son in law (late 40's YOA) put in a claim last Oct for PTSD related to his first tour in Afghanistan. He received a Pension For Life letter yesterday for less than $300 @ 27%. Why PFL when this was his first claim and submitted prior to 31 Mar 19?

The new PFL is a joke but he can still take a lump sum and it is slightly higher than it was with the NVC disability award. For 27% he should be entitled to a lump sum of 93542.40 based on the rates here:
https://www.veterans.gc.ca/pdf/rates/PSC-Rates-2019.pdf
 

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Once awarded you have to request the paper work from VAC for the lump sum. They are giving everyone the pension regardless of when you put a claim in.
 

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VAC told him yesterday, in person,  that no lump sums are awarded anymore and that the decision was made based on the new PFL. He is only going to live to 81 YOA! Annuity calculation of course.

Doesn't seem to me that this new PFL is anywhere near as "generous" as the old Act.
 

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Hold on, that makes no sense. According to their own documentation you can take a lump sum

https://www.veterans.gc.ca/GCWeb/pdf/Factsheets/Factsheet-PSC-EN.pdf

 

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Rifleman62 said:
VAC told him yesterday, in person,  that no lump sums are awarded anymore and that the decision was made based on the new PFL. He is only going to live to 81 YOA! Annuity calculation of course.

Doesn't seem to me that this new PFL is anywhere near as "generous" as the old Act.

To be honest VAC front line employees seem to not be all that informed. They have been handing out wrong information for some time now. I don't think they have been given proper training on all the new changes or just simply can't remember everything. If your in person it's probably best to ask them to show you a policy where it says what they are saying because if they did that they would find what meni0n posted.
 

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My total monthly payments went up $157. No idea what area was increased. When I see the same for three months running, I'll be semi satisfied it's real. :not-again:

On another note, I submitted two disability claims on 27 March 19, to ensure lump sum payments. Sent in electronically, so date stamped as that day. When they didn't appear in my list of applications, I went back and checked. VAC shows 04 Apr 19 as the date of reception and they just listed them yesterday showing an application date of 02 May 19. Both dates after the cutoff date.

Guess I'll wait a year or so and see how they want to pay them out, if they are even completed by then  ::). I'm sure application and delivery rules will have changed again by that point. Maybe a couple of times, with some new program names and qualifiers thrown in our way, for good measure.

For anyone interested, Blue Cross is dicking around. Again. Denying patients their full medical cannabis prescriptions and trying to force them back to 3 gram/ day. It appears they have some new paper shufflers that think they are better qualified than the patient's medical specialists at diagnosing medical and mental problems and determining what prescriptions best fit the individual.

Great work if you can get it, I guess.
 

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Fishbone Jones said:
My total monthly payments went up $157. No idea what area was increased. When I see the same for three months running, I'll be semi satisfied it's real. :not-again:

On another note, I submitted two disability claims on 27 March 19, to ensure lump sum payments. Sent in electronically, so date stamped as that day. When they didn't appear in my list of applications, I went back and checked. VAC shows 04 Apr 19 as the date of reception and they just listed them yesterday showing an application date of 02 May 19. Both dates after the cutoff date.

Guess I'll wait a year or so and see how they want to pay them out, if they are even completed by then  ::). I'm sure application and delivery rules will have changed again by that point. Maybe a couple of times, with some new program names and qualifiers thrown in our way, for good measure.

For anyone interested, Blue Cross is dicking around. Again. Denying patients their full medical cannabis prescriptions and trying to force them back to 3 gram/ day. It appears they have some new paper shufflers that think they are better qualified than the patient's medical specialists at diagnosing medical and mental problems and determining what prescriptions best fit the individual.

Great work if you can get it, I guess.

You didnt happen to screenshot the submission? I thought there is a number associated.
Im just mind blown at the mess this has caused. I have three friends that have not been paid, I was lucky and did receive payment.

Did anyone get a ridiculous low payment? Not trying to get into your business, and understand privacy, however my Case Manager said that after their training they were looking at allowing people with less then X amount a month receive a lump sum payment.
 

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Turns out to be $28/month. I'm glad I didn't "ask for more than we can afford to give".

I would appeal that, there has to be some path. That would not even cover a cell phone bill.
 

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upandatom said:
You didnt happen to screenshot the submission? I thought there is a number associated.
Im just mind blown at the mess this has caused. I have three friends that have not been paid, I was lucky and did receive payment.

Did anyone get a ridiculous low payment? Not trying to get into your business, and understand privacy, however my Case Manager said that after their training they were looking at allowing people with less then X amount a month receive a lump sum payment.

I bet VAC is looking at doing that. I've heard some predictions this would happen remember it's an election year so I'm sure the Liberals will be trying to throw a few bones out to make people happy. I wouldn't hold my breath on any changes until after the election even then it could be another year or so until any changes take effect.
 

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I think the big thing is them realizing, we didn’t give them what they wanted now they are mad. Of course their are going to be a lot of false promises. Seems to be the liberal agenda as of late, even cons too. I just want to get by without working 50 hours a week, and delivering papers. A couple grand in medical bills that blue cross is denying payment for recognized conditions for has really hurt my family.
 

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Teager said:
I bet VAC is looking at doing that. I've heard some predictions this would happen remember it's an election year so I'm sure the Liberals will be trying to throw a few bones out to make people happy. I wouldn't hold my breath on any changes until after the election even then it could be another year or so until any changes take effect.

During which time we still get paid monthly thus shrinking any lump sum they'd offer people. But still...it might be preferable to receiving the equivalent of your Netflix bill each month.
 

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Got a reply to my query.

VAC website says applications will be posted within several days. It looks like they've added another wait period for claims that we never heard about.

In part:
Our records indicate that we received two Disability Benefits
applications on March 27, 2019. These applications will soon
be added to My VAC Account. Please note this may take several
weeks
to be added to Track my Applications.
We thank you for
our patience.

Strangely, these applications went from several weeks to being posted just before they sent their apologies. They will be processed with the option of monthly payouts or lump sum. My choice.

I doubt the claims will move any faster, probably a couple of years at today's rate. But at least they are now in the system. I doubt they get looked at before they get posted to My Applications. So that's, maybe, dead claim time also. Which would add more time to the wait period.
 
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