US Election: 2016
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mariomike said:
My take would be:
Hillary wins. Trump immediately calls it rigged and demands recounts. She stills ends up getting inaugurated. Trump's more extreme supporters start openly carrying weapons and spouting off about protecting the US from tyrants, the media makes hay out of it. Hollywood et al clamour to perform at her inauguration. Lots of stuff about how historical this was as she is the first woman elected blah blah.
A few extreme nut job groups get arrested for planning something they likely could never have pulled off anyway but not for lack of trying.
The Senate and Congress vow to stop anything and everything she attempts to pass while in office. They also pursue a more dogged attempt to investigate her for corruption. her whole term is plagued by this and quite possibly will see herself impeached. Several democrats, while not openly criticising her, , certainly refuse to help her. Bill Clinton gets embroiled in an another scandal possibly real, possibly staged so someone can get their 5 mins of fame, either way he is vulnerable and a liability one way or another.
At the end of 4 years she is so damaged, unable to get anything done and possibly have a had a few medical episodes that the US, even angrier than now and no better off than they were, finally has enough and votes in anyone but her.
Essentially 4 years of predictable crap.
Right now the US is facing uncertain and unpredictable possible crap. Something the electorate was willing to risk in order to avoid what they feared would happen if Hillary won. But a lot of people still don't get this and think it's all about racism and sexism.
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kkwd
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Everybody knows bikers are all knuckle dragging mouth breathers with a habit of heavy drug use supported by criminal activity.
Well, maybe they are just ordinary hard working citizens like the throngs of protestors that will be flooding the streets on Friday.
Well, maybe they are just ordinary hard working citizens like the throngs of protestors that will be flooding the streets on Friday.
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Suppose this is the filter through which all of Donald Trump's pronouncements should be viewed?
A picture that looks even worse when the effects of fracking are excluded.
https://economicfront.wordpress.com/2016/02/
An outflow of 62 BUSD per month or 750 BUSD per year
Now, on top of this the US is spending 650 BUSD on defence and spending more on operations, funding the UN and international aid.
Meanwhile, while US workers are put out of jobs in Illinois and foreigners are hired in California, the outflowing cash goes to finance China - who is actively engaged in injurious economic and political conflict with the US, and building up its ability to challenge the US - and to Europe (Germany) - who is happy to sell cars but does nothing to share the defence burden, and who cavills over every US policy decision so as to maintain distance between them and their "friend".
Just because the "super powers" having been swapping bullets doesn't mean they haven't been at war. China and the US have never not been at war. Even during grip-and grins.
As for foreign intervention in domestic elections: We could go with Mossadegh in Iran or we could go with The News of the World and the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament in Britain.
Looked at it from that perspective I suspect that Trump might see Russia as a far lesser threat (it isn't sucking up US greenbacks and using them to build military installations) than China. And Europe is a freeloading vanity project that ain't helping.
All of which makes this article worth a look.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/donald-trumps-policies-seven-charts-prepares-inauguration/
A picture that looks even worse when the effects of fracking are excluded.
https://economicfront.wordpress.com/2016/02/
An outflow of 62 BUSD per month or 750 BUSD per year
Now, on top of this the US is spending 650 BUSD on defence and spending more on operations, funding the UN and international aid.
Meanwhile, while US workers are put out of jobs in Illinois and foreigners are hired in California, the outflowing cash goes to finance China - who is actively engaged in injurious economic and political conflict with the US, and building up its ability to challenge the US - and to Europe (Germany) - who is happy to sell cars but does nothing to share the defence burden, and who cavills over every US policy decision so as to maintain distance between them and their "friend".
Just because the "super powers" having been swapping bullets doesn't mean they haven't been at war. China and the US have never not been at war. Even during grip-and grins.
As for foreign intervention in domestic elections: We could go with Mossadegh in Iran or we could go with The News of the World and the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament in Britain.
Looked at it from that perspective I suspect that Trump might see Russia as a far lesser threat (it isn't sucking up US greenbacks and using them to build military installations) than China. And Europe is a freeloading vanity project that ain't helping.
All of which makes this article worth a look.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/donald-trumps-policies-seven-charts-prepares-inauguration/
There you have it....Mike drop :rofl:
mariomike said:Hopefully, there will be no violence.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=violence+inaguration&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=vMt8WK2CHamC8QfrtYGICQ&gws_rd=ssl#q=violence+inauguration
Doubt it.
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Further to my last
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada
As of 2015 -
Mexico sold 58 BUSD worth of goods to the US more than the US sold to Mexico. Mexicans employed. Hoosiers unemployed
In return Mexico only bought 9 BUSD worth of services from New York and California.
The net deficit to the US was -49 BUSD
The US actually has a surplus with Canada of +12 BUSD - which may explain why Trump's people were surprised when Canada thought they were talking about us when they opened the discussion on NAFTA.
But that surplus is the result of us buying 27 BUSD more services from them, again largely profiting New York and California, than they buy from us.
On the goods side we sell 15 BUSD more to them than they sell to us. Alberta oil, Ontario cars and Quebec aircraft.
That pits them against the Hoosiers and everyone else between the coasts. But at least we are compensating the US with the Services cash. That could be redistributed by the US from New York to Indiana.
And for the record:
1992 was the year the USSR dissolved, the EU signed on to Maastricht, the NAFTA agreement was signed and Global Warming became a thing at the Rio Summit.
The new WTO regime came in to effect on 1 Jan.
For the US, it seems that with the new era of free trade, it was all downhill from there.
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada
As of 2015 -
Mexico sold 58 BUSD worth of goods to the US more than the US sold to Mexico. Mexicans employed. Hoosiers unemployed
In return Mexico only bought 9 BUSD worth of services from New York and California.
The net deficit to the US was -49 BUSD
The US actually has a surplus with Canada of +12 BUSD - which may explain why Trump's people were surprised when Canada thought they were talking about us when they opened the discussion on NAFTA.
But that surplus is the result of us buying 27 BUSD more services from them, again largely profiting New York and California, than they buy from us.
On the goods side we sell 15 BUSD more to them than they sell to us. Alberta oil, Ontario cars and Quebec aircraft.
That pits them against the Hoosiers and everyone else between the coasts. But at least we are compensating the US with the Services cash. That could be redistributed by the US from New York to Indiana.
And for the record:
1992 was the year the USSR dissolved, the EU signed on to Maastricht, the NAFTA agreement was signed and Global Warming became a thing at the Rio Summit.
The new WTO regime came in to effect on 1 Jan.
For the US, it seems that with the new era of free trade, it was all downhill from there.
Jarnhamar
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I suspect you'll see a lot of this.(crying was edited in but fits perfectly)mariomike said:If...there is violence, I suspect there will be a lot of finger pointing as to who started it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XF9gqWVkHg
I bet YouTube "breaks the internet" with the massive influx of videos of people crying and "literally shaking" lol
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Jarnhamar said:
For sufferers of Obama Derangement Syndrome ( ODS ), watching that over, and over and over might be therapeutic.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=obama+syndrome&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=lRp9WMGsAsOC8QewtpboCw&gws_rd=ssl#tbm=vid&q=%22obama+derangement+syndrome%22
"What is absolutely certain, however, is that if Trump were a cabinet nominee (and not a cabinet nominator) his many Kremlin connections, conflicts, and compromises would make it impossible for him to obtain a security clearance."beachdown said:
...conspiracy theory now follows, and to think Trump is actually of German descent with the family changing their name a while back
http://www.macleans.ca/politics/washington/is-donald-trump-a-russian-agent/
In other news, Trump praises BREXIT
http://windsor.ctvnews.ca/trump-praises-brexit-and-predicts-eu-s-demise-slams-nato-1.3242936
http://www.macleans.ca/politics/washington/is-donald-trump-a-russian-agent/
In other news, Trump praises BREXIT
http://windsor.ctvnews.ca/trump-praises-brexit-and-predicts-eu-s-demise-slams-nato-1.3242936
kkwd
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beachdown said:as you put it..."bikers". I mean all that tattoo, jackets with badges and all that...going for the intimidation look? >
Going by that train of thought are all the protestors equipped with rocks and bottles to throw, they have their faces covered, they damage police equipment, they break into businesses and loot. Probably not, but better to be safe than sorry so we might as well lump them into one bunch as well.
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ModlrMike said:
For anyone interested in the African-American Presidential vote in 2016,
88% Democrat
8% Republican
4% Other
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016#Voter_demographics
kkwd
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Time for a little levity. This piece is from 2004. Will the same happen to today's outrage?
http://www.theonion.com/article/nations-liberals-suffering-from-outrage-fatigue-1190
http://www.theonion.com/article/nations-liberals-suffering-from-outrage-fatigue-1190
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In 2012 is was 93, 6 and 1.mariomike said:
For anyone interested in the African-American Presidential vote in 2016,
88% Democrat
8% Republican
4% Other
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016#Voter_demographics
But this is as relevant to your post as yours is to the one previous.
3 more days...
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Technoviking said:
The one previous was about African-Americans 150 years ago, "...when Lincoln freed all their slaves."
Mine was about African-Americans in 2016.
Technoviking said:
In 2008 it was 95% Democrat and 4% Republican.
Perhaps because, unlike 2016, the Democrats ran an African-American candidate in 2008 and 2012.
I would not be surprised if the Democrats run an African-American candidate in 2020. But, that's about relevant to this thread as the 1860 election.
Lightguns said:
As someone else pointed out,
Chispa said:
:goodpost:
On the other hand, I have also read this: "If Trump had won by 3 million votes, lost electoral college by 80K and Russia had hacked RNC, Republicans would have SHUT DOWN AMERICA."
I wonder if things will settle down a bit after the inauguration?
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