Ukraine - Superthread

[GR66]

However the night at a Holiday Inn five years ago was much more educational.

TMI

 

[Colin Parkinson]

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You are credible and I believe you.

There used to be a good video of a Chieftain showing the loading of the Two Part ammunition, but can't find it. I think the primers on the Chally are in clips of 5 if I recall correctly? Anyways, this video by the Chieftain at 19:30 goes into the loading and ammunition types for the Chally 1

 

[daftandbarmy]

The long arm of the law....

Rows of munition debris lie at heart of Ukrainian efforts to build criminal cases against Russian commanders

During the first few months of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the cruise missiles fired by Moscow at its neighbour remained embedded for days at a time in the buildings and streets of the north-eastern province Kharkiv.

Then, one by one, officials working for Ukrainian prosecutors recovered, registered and catalogued them, before moving them to a fenced-off area in an industrial district of Kharkiv city that has become known as the “missile cemetery”. More than 1,000 explosives and the debris of rockets are lined up in rows, covering an area half the size of a football field.

Ukraine’s army calculates that Russia has fired more than 5,000 cruise missiles, in addition to countless artillery rockets, since the war began. A large number have fallen on Kharkiv.

Local authorities say that one day the devices could become part of a museum to remember the atrocities of war. In the meantime, though, they hope the debris can provide information to help bring prosecutions against Russian authorities and soldiers.

‘It’s half of what was shot at us’: Kharkiv’s Russian missile cemetery

Rows of munition debris lie at heart of Ukrainian efforts to build criminal cases against Russian commanders

www.theguardian.com

 

[childs56]

6týț

There used to be a good video of a Chieftain showing the loading of the Two Part ammunition, but can't find it. I think the primers on the Chally are in clips of 5 if I recall correctly? Anyways, this video by the Chieftain at 19:30 goes into the loading and ammunition types for the Chally 1

You mean this video?

 

[daftandbarmy]

6týț

You mean this video?

Remind me to congratulate myself for not joining the armoured corps

 

[WLSC]

Remind me to congratulate myself for not joining the armoured corps

However, I reaaaly love a 70t frag vest with an integrated 120mm + coax just in front of me

 

[KevinB]

However, I reaaaly love a 70t frag vest with an integrated 120mm + coax just in front of me

My theory used to be that very few people would waste an Artillery Shell or the like at little old me out for a walk, versus someone in a tank.
However Ukraine has shown that a FM Reg’t will be used on 3-4 dudes out for a walk…

 

[WLSC]

My theory used to be that very few people would waste an Artillery Shell or the like at little old me out for a walk, versus someone in a tank.
However Ukraine has shown that a FM Reg’t will be used on 3-4 dudes out for a walk…

Yep but at one point, someone have to dismount. Then, it's comforting to have that beast nearby. In any case, it's not a good place to be anyway.

 

[WLSC]

Speeking of tanks. It's seems depot are being emptied

 

[Spencer100]

Speeking of tanks. It's seems depot are being emptied

Ok what's the over/under on the T34's? This time next year or sooner?

 

[Spencer100]

Ok gang. War Crime or not?

Russia begging for mercy

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[daftandbarmy]

Ok gang. War Crime or not?

Russia begging for mercy

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Dude, no one has ever convicted any Air Force for war crimes....

 

[FJAG]

Ok gang. War Crime or not?

Russia begging for mercy

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IMHO, not a war crime.

He's clearly an enemy combatant who is not a POW as he has not yet fallen into the power of the Ukrainian forces nor is capable of being taken into their power. Article 5 of the GC on POWs provides it applies "from the time they fall into the power of the enemy".

Most European LegAd will probably disagree.

 

[FormerHorseGuard]

More of the Canadian inventory being sent over.
I wonder how much is in the budget to replace the stocks we have given away or loaned?

Canada is sending Leopard 2 ARV recovery tanks to Ukraine | Defense News March 2023 Global Security army industry | Defense Security global news industry army year 2023 | Archive News year

Canada has sent a Leopard 2 ARV, an armored recovery vehicle to Ukraine, based on the chassis of the Leopard 2 MBT (Main Battle Tank).

www.armyrecognition.com

 

[Czech_pivo]

Ok what's the over/under on the T34's? This time next year or sooner?

I've said it before, I'm waiting for the Panzer IV and Panzer V's to be rolled out. Then we could have some German tank on German tank action to see.

 

[NavyShooter]

 

[daftandbarmy]

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Super Shermans work well against the T-54/55/62

In combat against the Arab armies, the M-51 proved itself capable of fighting newer, heavier tanks like the Soviet-built T-54/55/T-62. The M-51's 105 mm gun could penetrate these adversaries using HEAT ammunition. The M-51 served well during its time, and is regarded as an excellent example of how an obsolete tank (the Sherman) can be upgraded beyond the limits of its original capabilities.

Super Sherman - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Furniture]

Realistically, the West would be not much better off if we were sustaining losses. We might be in worse shape, because apart from America, nobody else is really stockpiling armour for a rainy day.

I hope some enterprising engineer in the West is designing a tank that can be rapidly thrown together like a modern Sherman. Power it with common diesel engines used in trucks/heavy equipment, give it composite bolt on armour, and a simple yet robust FCS.

 

[Skysix]

Ukrainians are not only McGuyverish, they are also ingenious and inventive. For a invisible 'white van' civilian use to frontline (they might do better in a more rugged vehicle - say an armoured LMTV that looks the same as all the other utility LMTV's running around). The only thing better might be a redesign of the back end storage to a 'van life' style with a high mounted bed for the off duty pilot and a cassette toilet.

 

[Furniture]

Ukrainians are not only McGuyverish, they are also ingenious and inventive. For a invisible 'white van' civilian use to frontline (they might do better in a more rugged vehicle - say an armoured LMTV that looks the same as all the other utility LMTV's running around). The only thing better might be a redesign of the back end storage to a 'van life' style with a high mounted bed for the off duty pilot and a cassette toilet.

I suspect that the Ukrainians are smart enough to not show the internet how they conduct UAV operations, or what vehicles they use.

The van puts the size of a Shark set-up into a commonly known context.

That said, vans are pretty common all over the world, so a random white van parked 10km behind the lines isn't automatically a target.