Ukraine - Superthread

[KevinB]

Deleted Tweet

 

[dapaterson]

Note: this may be UKR propaganda.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1514382681219518464

Nice touch: use of a VDV uniform.

 

[Kirkhill]

From April 12

In east, south of Ukraine, Russians ready for offensive action - General Staff

Russian invaders are systemically hitting Ukrainian infrastructure in Kharkiv and Zaporizhia regions with missiles and bombs. In Donetsk and Tavria directions, the enemy is ready to go on an offensive. — Ukrinform.

www.ukrinform.net

More on operations in the Kherson Oblast region

From April 14

Lviv paratroopers liberate several localities in southern Ukraine

The service members of the air assault units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine liberated several populated localities in southern Ukraine from Russian troops. — Ukrinform.

www.ukrinform.net

The service members of the air assault units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine liberated several populated localities in southern Ukraine from Russian troops.

"The units of the 80th Separate Air Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have recently conducted a brilliant operation to eliminate the units of the armed forces of the Russian Federation. Due to certain circumstances, we cannot disclose in detail the progress of this operation. However, it should be noted that the Lviv paratroopers were very successful," the 80th Separate Air Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine posted on Facebook.

Necessary measures were taken in advance to detect and suppress fire control points, firepower, and other important enemy targets. After that, the air assault units carried out offensive operations.

"Having suffered significant losses, the Russian occupiers were demoralized and began to retreat, leaving their positions. As a result, Lviv paratroopers liberated several Ukrainian populated localities from occupation," the report reads.

 

[dangerboy]

Much like people suspected would happen, we are sending troops to Poland to assist with the refugees.

Up to 150 Canadian Armed Forces members will soon be deploying to help manage the Ukrainian refugee resettlement efforts in Poland.

Defence Minister Anita Anand made the announcement on Thursday at the Canadian Forces’ military base in Trenton, Ont.

Canadian military deploying to Poland to assist Ukrainian refugees

 

[AlexanderM]

Ok, so it's sunk, it's not sunk, not sure now??

UPDATED: Russia Says Damaged Cruiser Moskva Sank Under Tow Headed to Black Sea Homeport - USNI News

This story has been updated to include a report from Russian state media Moskva has sunk. Russian Navy’s Black Sea flagship RTS Moskva (121) has sunk while being towed toward Sevastopol, Crimea, after sustaining major damage in a fire Wednesday, Russian state media said on Thursday. “During the...

news.usni.org

 

[Eye In The Sky]

What defences would the ship have had against sea skimming missiles?

SAMs and their (kind of) version of CWIS. Look at sensors and armament.

Slava-class cruiser - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I don’t know much about Neptune, but just as a general statement, sea skimmers don’t necessarily stay right off the surface for the entire engagement.

 

[Kirkhill]

Just a guess here, but I bet Moskva is likely under constant surveillance by NATO ISR air craft and other means. Humphrey Bogart is right in that there is no way we would allow Ukraine into our Link network (even if we wanted to, they don't even have compatible equipment). However, perhaps Ukraine is being fed intel from NATO, as in "Hey Uks, Mosvka is currently inside 60nm from Odessa. Just saying, guys".

So, Ukraine preps their battery, launches a Bayraktar to confirm. The drone gets eyes on the target, which provides the Neptune system with an up-to-date postion/course/speed on the Moskva, and woooooooosh Bulldogs away.

From a comment on the USNI link previously posted by someone else who I can't locate just now.

UPDATED: Russia Says Damaged Cruiser Moskva Sank Under Tow Headed to Black Sea Homeport - USNI News

This story has been updated to include a report from Russian state media Moskva has sunk. Russian Navy’s Black Sea flagship RTS Moskva (121) has sunk while being towed toward Sevastopol, Crimea, after sustaining major damage in a fire Wednesday, Russian state media said on Thursday. “During the...

news.usni.org

The Moskva has been confirmed to be badly damaged by Russian news, who claimed it was due to a fire on board. Investigations are continuing to find the source of the fire. Not far away, at the time the ship sank, an E3 Sentry was flying circles on the border of the Black Sea. Some Ukraine sources claim the Russian cruiser was struck by two Neptun missiles--which are domestically produced. Intercepted Russian communications said that the Ukrainians had distracted the air defense systems by flying a probing aircraft in the area, while the missiles slipped through the AD net at sea skimming altitudes.

Possibilities

 

[Maxman1]

Ok, so it's sunk, it's not sunk, not sure now??

UPDATED: Russia Says Damaged Cruiser Moskva Sank Under Tow Headed to Black Sea Homeport - USNI News

This story has been updated to include a report from Russian state media Moskva has sunk. Russian Navy’s Black Sea flagship RTS Moskva (121) has sunk while being towed toward Sevastopol, Crimea, after sustaining major damage in a fire Wednesday, Russian state media said on Thursday. “During the...

news.usni.org

It's in port now, here's a photo to prove it:

 

[rmc_wannabe]

It's in port now, here's a photo to prove it:

Looks like it would've been better off scuttled. She's looking rough....

Edit: Still looks like it should be scuttled. POS

 

[TheHead]

That picture is from 2013. Updated with the proper year.

TinEye Reverse Image Search

 

[Furniture]

It's in port now, here's a photo to prove it:

I'm pretty sure that's the unfinished one, not the one damaged recently.

 

[GR66]

I'm pretty sure that's the unfinished one, not the one damaged recently.

It is. It's the exact same picture as shown of the unfinished Ukraina moored at the Mykolayiv Shipyard the Wikipedia article on the ship:

 

[Maxman1]

That picture is from 2018.

TinEye Reverse Image Search

I'm pretty sure that's the unfinished one, not the one damaged recently.

 

[TheHead]

Woooosh...... right over my the head.

 

[Kirkhill]

Appears to be the unfinished Ukrayina docked at Mykolaiv. Bottom of the chart.

View attachment 70066

 

[Maxman1]

It is. It's the exact same picture as shown of the unfinished Ukraina moored at the Mykolayiv Shipyard the Wikipedia article on the ship:

The image URL also gives it away, the joke being that Russian propaganda would claim it was the Moskva.

 

[Quirky]

That picture is from 2013. Updated with the proper year.

TinEye Reverse Image Search

I was gonna say, did they pull it from the bottom of the Black Sea?

 

[Brad Sallows]

So..now it's Schrodinger's cruiser...

 

[TheHead]

The image URL also gives it away, the joke being that Russian propaganda would claim it was the Moskva.

I must have mistook your username for Soldier35....

 

[RangerRay]

Edited - irrelevant now.