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Ukraine - Superthread

KevinB said:
Ack - President Biden has reconfirmed his earlier statement that any NATO force entering UKR to assist against Russia will be defended to the fullest by US Military forces, and viewed as an immediate Article 5 by US Forces if those NATO forces are attacked by Russia regardless if they are in their home territory or the Ukraine.
Pretty much just hit the green right for any country that wants to kick Vlad in the balls.
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That’s the message that needs to be communicated.
 
KevinB said:

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Marlise Simons
U.N.’s highest court orders Russia to suspend military action in Ukraine.

The United Nations’ highest court on Wednesday ordered Russia to immediately cease military actions in Ukraine, a largely symbolic ruling that was nevertheless welcomed by the Ukrainian government.

Ukraine had filed a case with the International Court of Justice, asking its judges to issue an injunction demanding that Russia end its violent incursion in the country.

In Wednesday’s 13-2 vote, the judges ordered Russia to “immediately suspend” military operations. The two opposing votes were cast by judges from Russia and China.
The ruling, while legally binding, is not expected to have an impact on the war. Moscow is not expected to comply and boycotted the court’s first hearing in the case.
Still, Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, hailed the ruling.
“Ukraine gained a complete victory in its case against Russia at the International Court of Justice,” he wrote on Twitter.
The ruling comes as an isolated Russia has been increasingly shunning western institutions.
Russia gave formal notice on Tuesday that it would withdraw from the Council of Europe, which was established in 1949 as Europe’s main institution governing human rights.
Russia was suspended from the Council on Feb. 25, the day after it invaded Ukraine. Marija Pejcinovic Buric, the organization’s secretary general, said earlier this month that the war “goes against everything we stand for and is a violation of our statute and of the European Convention on Human Rights.”
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So China is still trying to find its way…Vlad not bad…

KevinB said:
China just praised Ukraine's Strength and Unity -- whoops, didn't see that one coming did you Vlad...
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You can do it, Ukraine!

The position of mediator is starting to fade from China’s aspirations…
 
Good2Golf said:
So China is still trying to find its way…Vlad not bad…



You can do it, Ukraine!

The position of mediator is starting to fade from China’s aspirations…
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I suspect the prospect of not getting shellacked with sanctions - and the opportunity to sell a lot of stuff to folks rebuilding (albeit probably not Military Equipment) is appealing more than anything Vlad can offer at this point.
 
KevinB said:
I suspect the prospect of not getting shellacked with sanctions - and the opportunity to sell a lot of stuff to folks rebuilding (albeit probably not Military Equipment) is appealing more than anything Vlad can offer at this point.
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Although they are formally on record as voting against the ICJ Court Order directing Vlad to stop.
 
Good2Golf said:
Although they are formally on record as voting against the ICJ Court Order directing Vlad to stop.
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I think China enjoys being cautious - and quietly supporting both sides.
China could afford to vote against the ICJ as it was a done deal (look Vlad we tried) , they didn't vote against the UNGA Resolution
 
KevinB said:
Ack - President Biden has reconfirmed his earlier statement that any NATO force entering UKR to assist against Russia will be defended to the fullest by US Military forces, and viewed as an immediate Article 5 by US Forces if those NATO forces are attacked by Russia regardless if they are in their home territory or the Ukraine.
Pretty much just hit the green right for any country that wants to kick Vlad in the balls.
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The Poles would love to avenge Katyn.
 
Good2Golf said:
Although they are formally on record as voting against the ICJ Court Order directing Vlad to stop.
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That's substantially different from a political vote.

Remember this is the International COURT of justice.

Not voting guilty //= exoneration.
 
Anyone else feel like something might be a foot with NATO? they are increasing forces on their eastern flank, and the Americans are not letting reporters into where their troops are going.
 
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