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KevinB

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What systems would that consist of though? Just looking at Sky Sabre and NASAAMS and even Patriot missiles systems they don't seem to have very large ranges
I suspect a lot of stuff is going to OT (Operational Testing) in the Ukraine.
Look at the origin of some of the flights from the US…
 

Kilted

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It's possible Germany doesn't trust Bidens USA to have their back so they're trying to buy off Russia. Seems weird that Germany would be so out of step with the US and UK. They're even blocking other countries from helping.

Command and Conquer didn't see this coming.
It's concerning that there is already a lack of cooperation in NATO. Apparently every member isn't as willing to stand up to the auld enemy as much as some of the others.
 

Colin Parkinson

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It's concerning that there is already a lack of cooperation in NATO. Apparently every member isn't as willing to stand up to the auld enemy as much as some of the others.
Hey they need to check with the polling companies first to see how that will impact votes
 

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It's concerning that there is already a lack of cooperation in NATO. Apparently every member isn't as willing to stand up to the auld enemy as much as some of the others.
Building a custom pipeline to supply your energy drugs directly from Uncle Vlad was what some would call I&Ws…
 

MilEME09

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The alliance is more divided then we let on, because economic interests seem to Trump security situations.
 

Brad Sallows

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Coalitions are always at a disadvantage because the members' respective interests are not wholly congruent. An ally who is right there beside you when it's his country being invaded often enough will be sticky when it's someone else's border being crossed.
 

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I’m assuming that you all have read about the 120$m loan that Trudeau announced for the Ukraine, but we’re you aware that it came with 1 condition?
Not one penny can be used to buy weapons or military equipment…..
What the Ukrainians should use the 120$m for is to buy coffins and pay for the funerals for its soldiers if Russia invades and publicize that Canada’s loan was used for those purposes. Now that would be a great fu to Trudeau.

“There is one condition attached to Canada’s loan, stressed a Liberal source familiar with the matter: Ukraine cannot buy any weapons or military equipment with the money.”

 

MilEME09

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If I was Ukraine I'd buy weapons any way, how can Canada prove 120 million into their coffers was used for weapons vs tax dollars
 

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On Friday, Trudeau said he did not close the door on sending weapons to Ukraine.
“We are looking at what more we can do and how we can help even more. We will surely have more to say in the days and the weeks to come.”

Do we have weapons to send to Ukraine?
 

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If I was Ukraine I'd buy weapons any way, how can Canada prove 120 million into their coffers was used for weapons vs tax dollars
Loans of this nature could be held at a Canadian banking institution. When bills come in, money gets paid out, so it is pretty easy to see what the money is being spent on.

The smart thing for the Ukrainians to do would be to use it to buy Canadian gold or a couple of tanker loads of crude oil (really, anything fungible) and then re-sell it. The money is then clean and can be used to buy weapons and the Liberals can sleep soundly at night…
 
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