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Kilted

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“The ministers agreed to speak again in the near future. Minister Reznikov also extended an invitation for Minister Anand to visit him in Ukraine. Minister Anand indicated her significant interest in such a visit once their respective schedules permit.”

I’ve got a feeling this guys schedule will be wide open a few days after 4 Feb….look to see him shopping somewhere in the Bloor and Runnymede area of Toronto.
Feb 4th?
 

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Turns out HMCS Montreal left today for the Black Sea posting. Position this ship and the French FS Auvergne between Odessa and Mariupol, along with the ships from the US 6th Fleet and see what comes our way.

I mean putting NATO vessels on Ukraine coast and doing joint drills may delay Plans a bit for the amphibious invasion of Odessa
 

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Recycling... it's a thing in the defence industry ;)


The Ukrainian Armed Forces expects to receive new helicopters, including five Mi-17V5s and one Mi-8MTV, as part of U.S. military aid.

The U.S. reportedly will provide Ukraine with six helicopters that previously belonged to the Afghan Air Force. The first batch of helicopters is expected to arrive in Ukraine this spring.

Reports from outlets in Afghanistan had suggested that about two dozen Mi-8/17 type helicopters of the Afghan Air Force are now outside the country and their fate remains unknown.

According to Scramble Magazine, these helicopters have undoubtedly been used during the fled of Afghan government leaders and military personnel to neighboring countries as Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

As CNN previously reported, the Biden administration is weighing sending military advisers and new equipment to Ukraine as Russia builds up forces near the border.

Citing multiple sources familiar with the plans, CNN reported that the Defense Department has been pressing for some equipment that would have gone to Afghanistan, like Mi-17 helicopters, to instead be sent to Ukraine.

 

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The US can always offer the Taliban some cash to ship some of the helicopters and equipment in their possession over to the Ukraine.
 

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The US can always offer the Taliban some cash to ship some of the helicopters and equipment in their possession over to the Ukraine.
US also has a bunch of tanks, and arty that the marines just stopped using, could send those Ukraines way.
 

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Turns out HMCS Montreal left today for the Black Sea posting. Position this ship and the French FS Auvergne between Odessa and Mariupol, along with the ships from the US 6th Fleet and see what comes our way.



Montreal is just going where the Feddy was until last month, and TOR was before that…etc.

So this isn’t a deployment in response to XYZ, it’s just normal rotation stuff.
 

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A little late in the game to be talking about supplying weaponry when all along its been lets not doing anything to escalate things. Read an older article in the National Post the other day when the Ukrainians were begging for supplies including Eryx but I guess it was decided to just scrap them(?). I'm sure the Ukrainians could use more Manpads and anti-tank missiles but they need a big boost in higher end air defence to make the Russians think twice and probably 100 new F-16's
 

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A little late in the game to be talking about supplying weaponry when all along its been lets not doing anything to escalate things. Read an older article in the National Post the other day when the Ukrainians were begging for supplies including Eryx but I guess it was decided to just scrap them(?). I'm sure the Ukrainians could use more Manpads and anti-tank missiles but they need a big boost in higher end air defence to make the Russians think twice and probably 100 new F-16's
Our government dragged its heals, they didn't say yes or no, like a lot if other things.
 

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If that's being reported accurately, that's either a deliberate and calculated abandonment of Ukraine- or it was a dumb misspeak. I suspect the latter, and that we'll see clarification tomorrow, along the lines of 'response will be proportionate and commensurate to the level of Russian aggression' or something.
 

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As for Canada’s response: I think we can dispense with any notion that we’re at the big boys table here. Any response will be for domestic consumption first, and to show our allies we’re still here second. But we are not strategically relevant. We made that choice years ago.
Very true, especially when it comes to weapons. Besides some small arms, the only weapon system that I could think of Canada providing is the CRV-7 rocket system.
 

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Our government dragged its heals, they didn't say yes or no, like a lot if other things.
Basically it comes down to this - having the largest Ukrainian population outside of Ukraine/Russia means absolutely nothing here in Canada.
Trudeau and company did nothing like usual. It’s pitiful to watch them in action.
If that's being reported accurately, that's either a deliberate and calculated abandonment of Ukraine- or it was a dumb misspeak. I suspect the latter, and that we'll see clarification tomorrow, along the lines of 'response will be proportionate and commensurate to the level of Russian aggression' or something.
I watched NBC Nightly News out of Boston and I heard Biden clearly say those words. I banged on the table when I heard it as I knew that it was Munich all over again.
 

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If that's being reported accurately, that's either a deliberate and calculated abandonment of Ukraine- or it was a dumb misspeak. I suspect the latter, and that we'll see clarification tomorrow, along the lines of 'response will be proportionate and commensurate to the level of Russian aggression' or something.
Listen to this clip.

 
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