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The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)


Supervisor of CAF Staff Officer who (allegedly) did GBA+ analysis on the file be like....

The Phantom Menace Fear GIF by Star Wars
 
Infographic from the announcement



Some reporter actually asked why we need 88 of them, like wow, frankly 88 isn't enough, 4 years until first delivery also means we have time to get our infrastructure in order before they arrive.
88 is no where near enough - simply apply the 'normal' number of attrition to fighter aircraft over a 30yr period and see how many will be servaible 15yrs out, 20yrs out, etc etc.
 
88 is no where near enough - simply apply the 'normal' number of attrition to fighter aircraft over a 30yr period and see how many will be servaible 15yrs out, 20yrs out, etc etc.

To think the original purchase was 65...
 
88 is no where near enough - simply apply the 'normal' number of attrition to fighter aircraft over a 30yr period and see how many will be servaible 15yrs out, 20yrs out, etc etc.
144 was the original Hornet number was it not?
and that was way too low...

Admittedly 88 F-35 and then 100 F-15EX would be fairly decent.

If you can find the pilots
 
Even if we wanted to listen to these assholes, the Americans have a much longer petition.

They are an insult to principled liberalism.

If so they have been insulting principled liberalism for a long time - at least since the days of Gladstone and MacDonald.

Some of the leading lights were to be found in the Women's Christian Temperance Movement, The United Church of Canada, The Women's Institute and the Suffrage Movement. They have their mainstream supporters.
 
144 was the original Hornet number was it not?
and that was way too low...

Admittedly 88 F-35 and then 100 F-15EX would be fairly decent.

If you can find the pilots
138 CF18's - 40 of which where 2 seater trainers, leaving 98 for the primary role of fighter/interceptor.

They've had roughly a 15% attrition rate in terms of crashes over the years. Apply that to 15-20yrs in the future and we'll not have enough left for NORAD or NATO requirements.

During GW1 we deployed 26 CF18's, Kosovo conflict we deployed 18, Libya it was 7 , 6 to Iraq for dealing with ISIS and now to Romania we deploy 6 - notice a trend here?
 
88 is no where near enough - simply apply the 'normal' number of attrition to fighter aircraft over a 30yr period and see how many will be servaible 15yrs out, 20yrs out, etc etc.
You know they did the math on this right?

Somewhere on this very thread is the breakdown of the numbers needed. Enough to constantly do training, the NORAD mission and multiple six pack deployments overseas.
 
88 is no where near enough - simply apply the 'normal' number of attrition to fighter aircraft over a 30yr period and see how many will be servaible 15yrs out, 20yrs out, etc etc.

Is the F35 going to be the right solution 30 years out from now? If it is will it still be in production (probably based on current policy and the F16 history).

I'm more interested now in the purchase of munitions of all types, including air launched missiles but also surface launched systems (Ground and Sea).

Considering where we are 88 isn't bad.
We also need
Tankers and Strategic Transports - CC150 replacements
LRPA - CP140 replacements
Cargo Aircraft - CC130, A400M, CC177s, 777X
Uninhabited Aircraft
Satellites

SAR aircraft (CH-149/CC-138/CC-115/CC-295/CC-130H replacements)

Rotary Wing aircraft

And, of course, munitions.

88 doesn't sound bad from here.

Especially when other nations are operating their F35s in small patrols, from small squadrons and not launching them in swarms.
 
You know they did the math on this right?

Somewhere on this very thread is the breakdown of the numbers needed. Enough to constantly do training, the NORAD mission and multiple six pack deployments overseas.
Well they probably forgot to account for attrition, repairs, etc. Just like how other units forgot to account for leave, injuries, courses, and deployments when they did the math on staffing level minimums at certain units...
 
Well they probably forgot to account for attrition, repairs, etc. Just like how other units forgot to account for leave, injuries, courses, and deployments when they did the math on staffing level minimums at certain units...
You're assuming that the number is wrong. I posit that whatever numbers us random plebs on this site come up with are wrong.
 
"As for the coalition, organizers are planning to hold rallies in British Columbia, Nova Scotia and Ontario from Friday to Sunday.

They will also unfurl a banner on Ottawa’s Parliament Hill."

Our government is all about public opinion. Remember that Trudeau rules by opinion poles. If no one speaks against this then he will believe Canadians are on board.
Uuuuhhhhh…bruh…

We are onboard. Like all of us are onboard...
 
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