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The Manley Report

The Report of the Independent Panel on Canada’s Future Role in Afghanistan (hereafter the Manley Report or just the Report) has been published, and Ruxted is, generally, pleased with the results.  In particular, we are happy to see endorsement of our recent message that combat is necessary in Afghanistan1 and we agree that more soldiers are definitely required.

With one possible small exception, Ruxted fully supports the five recommendations on pages 37 and 38.  Our concern is that some may see a binding obligation in the comment that Canada should “secure medium helicopter lift capacity and high-performance unmanned Aerial Vehicles … before February 2009.” This is an excellent recommendation, and we take comfort that the report says “should” as opposed to “must.”  As long as these equipments do not become a prerequisite for remaining in Afghanistan, then Ruxted will give its support to this recommendation.

We were also very pleased to see the call for another nation to provide a battle group to join our forces in Kandahar.  The whole ISAF mission is plagued by a lack of troops, and there was an unhelpful naivety in previous opposition recommendations that Canadian forces leave whether they are replaced or not.  In an area comparable in size to New Brunswick the presence of a much larger two-nation task force will go a long way to improving security and the safety of all persons, military and civilian, in Kandahar.  Ruxted hopes that the invitation of come join us in Kandahar is better received by NATO allies than the invitation of come replace us in Kandahar.

While the Manley Report completely knocked the intellectual and moral props out from under Gilles Duceppe, Stéphane Dion and Jack Layton, it does little to address Stephen Harper’s main problem.  It fails to provide him with a simple “make it go away” strategy that would appeal to the solid majority of Canadians who, in this case, believes “doing the right thing” is just too difficult and too expensive. That aside, there are, perhaps, two points from the recently released Manley Report that matter most:

First: The blood of hundreds of Canadians, dead and wounded, mostly young men and women who are, simultaneously ordinary, as the NDP loves to define ‘ordinary Canadians,’ and extraordinary, in bravery and commitment, has earned us a place of honour in the councils of nations, a place we abandoned in 1970 with then Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau’s misbegotten foreign policy, published in that year; and

Second: It is now, clearly and as agreed by the leaders of Her Majesty's Official Loyal Opposition, the duty of Prime Minister Stephen Harper to tell Canadians why we are there – something he has, thus far, failed to do. We would prefer to think that this failure results from Prime Minister Harper being unable to get the message out through the static. In the absence of a clear message other alternatives are allowed to present themselves.  Unpleasant alternatives, such as being afraid to alienate voters, or being genuinely unable to grasp the complexities of fighting a modern counter-insurgency, are preferable to the most heinous of all: that he is using the mission and the soldiers as props in a small, partisan, domestic political squabble.  It is imperative that the Prime Minister present his message clearly and that he be permitted to present his message fairly by the opposition parties.  Whatever the reasons for the confusion in the minds of Canadians, the blood which has earned us a higher place in the world is also on his hands, as it is on the hands of all of us who support or previously supported this mission. Canadians need to know, need to be convinced, that he (and his predecessors) sent young Canadians to be maimed and killed for something greater than a short term political advantage.

Shortly after taking office Prime Minister Harper demonstrated that he understood one of the reasons Canadians are fighting and dying in Afghanistan: to burnish our badly tarnished leadership credentials. He said, in a 5 July 2006 speech, that one (but only one) of the reasons Canadians are fighting and dying in Afghanistan is  “that is the price of leadership in the world," and “It is also the price of moving the world forward."

Some might have thought the comment calculating, even cold, but Prime Minister Harper understood then that the only reason we maintain a tough, superbly disciplined professional army is to protect and promote our vital interests in the world, including here in Canada.

Improving our international leadership position is one of our vital interests: enhancing our reputation in global security matters pays dividends in trade and commerce, too. “Moving the world forward” is a domestic vital interest – the “world” of 2000 was unstable and the failed state of Afghanistan provided al Qaeda with a firm base from which it could manage dastardly attacks on New York and Washington D.C. Helping the people of Afghanistan to rebuild a nation-state that is strong enough to avoid failing and falling into the grasp of terrorists is “moving the world forward” and it is one of Canada’s vital interests.

Therefore: We are in Afghanistan in order to protect and promote our vital interests, Canadian interests. Happily they are also the world’s interests as UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon explained when, in a recent Globe and Mail article, he too knocked the stuffing out of the Duceppe/Dion/Layton positions. Our interests also coincide with the interests of the Afghan people and their lawfully elected government. We are fighting a counterinsurgency campaign and “winning hearts and minds” is still the sine qua non of victory in such campaigns. Everything we do to win hearts and minds helps the legitimate government of Afghanistan to extend its reach and helps the ‘ordinary Afghans’ (the ones we would like to hope are in the thoughts and prayers of Jack Layton and the NDP) resist the Taliban terror.

The Manley Report said that, “Canadian objectives in Afghanistan are both honourable and achievable.”  The panel members went on to say that, “The aim there is not to create some fanciful model of prosperous democracy. Canadian objectives are more realistic: to contribute, with others, to a better governed, stable and developing Afghanistan whose government can protect the security of the country and its people.” (Report, p. 33) This is very close to what Ruxted has been saying2 for more than a year. To get there – to those honourable and achievable objectives - we must continue to fight the good fight and finish the assignment, even if, as several very senior military officers have suggested, it is the work of a generation.

It is true that many Canadians may object to any military mission which does not serve an immediate humanitarian purpose, but Ruxted would remind these Canadians that there is such a purpose.  The war in Afghanistan has at least the same moral integrity as traditional UN peacekeeping as our soldiers are fighting for the same peace, security, civil-safety and humanitarian standards.  We continue to hope that the Prime Minister will state in no uncertain terms that turning our back on the Afghan people would be hypocritical of a nation that self-indulges in a vision of itself as a peacekeeper.  Canadians must come to accept this because the reality is that peacekeeping has forever changed.

The Report stated that Afghanistan “is not the same UN peacekeeping that Canadians have known and supported ... there is not yet a peace to keep, no truce to supervise or “green line” to watch. This is a peace-enforcement operation, as provided for under Chapter VII of the United Nations Charter. It is a collective use of force, under international law, to address a threat to international peace and security posed by continuing disorder in Afghanistan. It reflects as well the changing nature of UN mandated peace missions, which have become more robust in the use of force to protect civilians since the harsh lessons learned in the murderous disasters of Bosnia and Rwanda. Similar ... missions have served in Haiti, Côte d’Ivoire and the Democratic Republic of the Congo ... these are the kinds of force the UN might be called upon to apply more often in future, where the human rights and human security of ordinary people are threatened. When the UN and its members authorize such a mission, Canadians have a choice: Canada can participate ... or we can leave the mission to others.” (Report, p. 21) This puts paid to the simplistic “let’s go back to traditional UN peacekeeping” nonsense put about by ill informed, anti-military academics, busybodies and commentators.

Canadian economist Robert Calderisi said3 “As international terrorists search for alternative safe havens, as new diseases like SARS and avian flu spread beyond their countries of origin, and as mass human migration begins to rival nuclear proliferation as the dominant challenge in the early twenty-first century there will be rising interest in ... containing the international ripple effects of failed states. Most of those states are in Africa.” The next time, and the many times after that the UN asks NATO and a few others to organize and manage “peace-enforcement operations” they will likely be in Africa. Canada will participate. Canadians will kill and die. Other Canadians will weep and still others wail but there is no alternative – not if we have any worthwhile values at all.

The Manley Report has provided an elegantly simple, tightly reasoned and ultimately persuasive analysis of the state of Canada’s mission in Afghanistan and the Report makes useful and sensible recommendations for the future of that mission. The onus is, now, on Prime Minister Harper to make the mission his own and to bring Canadians onside with him. There is, equally, an opportunity for M. Stéphane Dion to encourage the Canadians he aspires to lead in our vital task of “moving the world forward.”


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1. See: http://ruxted.ca/index.php?/archives/104-No-Security-Without-Combat.html
2. See: http://ruxted.ca/index.php?/archives/24-The-Afghanistan-Debate.html et seq
3. Calderisi, Robert, The Trouble with Africa, New York, 2006, p. 2
 
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The Manley Report

The Report of the Independent Panel on Canada’s Future Role in Afghanistan (hereafter the Manley Report or just the Report) has been published, and Ruxted is, generally, pleased with the results.  In particular, we are happy to see endorsement of our recent message that combat is necessary in Afghanistan1 and we agree that more soldiers are definitely required.

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The Manley Report has provided an elegantly simple, tightly reasoned and ultimately persuasive analysis of the state of Canada’s mission in Afghanistan and the Report makes useful and sensible recommendations for the future of that mission. The onus is, now, on Prime Minister Harper to make the mission his own and to bring Canadians onside with him. There is, equally, an opportunity for M. Stéphane Dion to encourage the Canadians he aspires to lead in our vital task of “moving the world forward.”

Here, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright Act from today’s Globe and Mail, is an editorial that follows up on Ruxted’s analysis:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080207.wedion07/BNStory/specialComment/home
Globe editorial

Harper and Dion both have to bend

From Thursday's Globe and Mail
February 7, 2008 at 6:17 AM EST

John Manley and his panel produced a report last month that sought to bridge political differences in Ottawa over the future of Canada's involvement in Afghanistan. Had the Conservative government and Liberal opposition taken the panel's advice, they could have moved the debate beyond the corrosive effects of partisanship. They could have improved the mission's chances for success in Kandahar and lessened the burden shouldered by Canadian troops, while acknowledging that Canada's continuing combat role is vital to the future of Afghanistan's fledgling democracy and is in the national-security interests of Canada and its allies.

Instead, it is politics as usual in Ottawa. True, Stephen Harper has made conciliatory noises to the Opposition, and has begun to follow through on the Manley commission's call for more aggressive lobbying of Canada's partners in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, encouraging them to shoulder the burden in Kandahar. But he has returned to previous form by indicating that his government will table a motion this week on the Manley report and warning Stéphane Dion that it is a matter of confidence in the government. Instead of reaching out to the Liberals, the Prime Minister has effectively told Mr. Dion to do it his way or get off the bridge. On Wednesday, Mr. Dion accepted the invitation and jumped, declaring that his party will not compromise on its demand that Canada's combat mission in Afghanistan end by 2009.

The people of Canada, and Afghanistan, deserved better from the two leaders. They deserved a serious bipartisan effort to find a way ahead for a mission that is important to the security of both countries. Mr. Harper's conduct is especially confounding. The defeat of the government on this issue would make lame ducks of Canada's soldiers while they are still on the field of battle, and would have the Conservatives fighting an election over a mission for which support remains soft. It is a dangerous and unwise strategy.

For their part, the Liberals, by pulling the rug out from under the troops, not only risk all that has been accomplished by Canadian soldiers, but stand to be seen as the ones responsible for the mission's failure. Make no mistake. A withdrawal of Canadian soldiers after a defeat of this kind in Parliament would be seen internationally as an admission of defeat by Canada. Is that really how Mr. Dion's Liberals want to be known -- as quitters? More than that, as hypocrites? They are, after all, the party that sent troops to fight in the south in the first place.

Mr. Harper and Mr. Dion need to try harder.

Quite frankly, I cannot see how this can be a anything but a matter of confidence. Mr. Harper set a precedent, at least for his government, back in May 2006 when he allowed parliament to vote, and made it an issue of confidence, on what has, traditionally, been a matter of exclusive executive (cabinet) concern.

I also cannot see how Prime Minister Harper can compromise – except through some rhetorical slight of hand that might well appease most Canadian journalists but would be, practically (in terms of bleeding, broken soldiers) inconsequential. To compromise, in any meaningful way, would be to neuter his administration on key policy issues. We would, in effect, have moved away from a (constitutionally required) Westminster style parliamentary government and towards a Washington style congressional system in which the executive is ‘checked’ and ‘balanced’ by a sovereign legislature.

M. Stéphane Dion, on the other hand, has some room for political manoeuvre. In his case some “rhetorical slight of hand” might be sufficient to allow his party to support any reasonable proposal the government offers. Better, he could, formally and publicly, accept the Manley Report and make its laudable goals those of the Liberal Party of Canada.
 

 
E.R Campbell, what about responsible government?   The executive, or cabinet, you describe is part of the legislature and must have the confidence of it-this is the integral part of the Westminster system.   While theoretically the Cabinet does not need the consent of the House of Commons explicitly for the deployment of the CF abroad it has been tradition that for major operations abroad, such as the Second World War and Korea that Parliament is consulted because after all we are a representative government.   The Cabinet does need the consent of Parliament in that the Crown, the Queen and the Governor General, the joint Commander-in-Chiefs of the Canadian Forces are part of Parliament and can in theory yay or nay any deployment. I don't see anything wrong with Parliament voting on deployments as national defence is clearly a rubric of Parliament under Section 91(7) of the Constitutional Act, 1867.  Implictly the Cabinet needs the consent of the House of Commons, after all they approve the budget which pays for everything.  Moreover, the CF is duty bound to abide by the decisions of Parliament no matter how stupid they are.   I realize your frustration though.   

 
 
The government, the executive (properly the ‘Committee of the Queen’s Privy Council), is ”responsible” because it has, simultaneously, the confidence of parliament and the sovereign. The ‘consent’ for the executive to deploy the sovereign’s armed forces is confirmed when funds are voted. A formal declaration of war, preceded by a parliamentary debate – which need only be a “take note” debate, may also be required in certain circumstances, partially as a prelude to other legislative measures that may be required to prosecute the war on a national basis.

There was no good Constitutional requirement for Prime Minister Harper to do anything except inform parliament that he was extending the mission until whenever it suited him – in his role as the sovereign’s principle advisor. If parliament objects it has, always, its most powerful weapon: it can, simply, refuse to vote funds for the military. If they don’t want to do that they can use one of their ‘opposition days’ to vote “no confidence” in the government and force it out of office.

I expect that the same level of parliamentary skill, knowledge and responsibility will be brought to bear on this issue as can be seen in the Mulroney/Schreiber affair.

I quite like many aspects of the US system – especially the skill and responsibility that congressional committees bring to their work. I also dislike parts of it – especially the fact that the executive cannot be tossed aside when it, clearly, has the lost the confidence of the people’s representatives. On balance, I think we can reform our old, creaky, retarded (complete with unequal representation and an appointed legislative chamber) version of a Westminster system rather than shift, by accident, to a pale version of the Washington system.

Allowing, much less requiring the legislature to formally approve every executive decision is the wrong way to go.



 
Allowing, much less requiring the legislature to formally approve every executive decision is the wrong way to go.

Exactly-there is a reason why we have an executive. 


I hate how the opposition always opposes for the sake of it. Being in the opposition does not mean you can't agree with the government on anything.  It would be nice to hear every once in a while from a leader  that gee we may not agree with everything you do but on issue x the government did a very good job.   

Maybe the relaxing of party discipline and a Triple-E Senate would help? 
 
stegner said:
I hate how the opposition always opposes for the sake of it. Being in the opposition does not mean you can't agree with the government on anything.  It would be nice to hear every once in a while from a leader  that gee we may not agree with everything you do but on issue x the government did a very good job.   
But Mr Dion has come right out and said it.  It is his job to oppose the government regardless of the merit of the governments position.  ::)  Unhelpful fool.  If he understood government (which he should given his position) then he would understand he should oppose based on the merit of a government position.

stegner said:
Maybe the relaxing of party discipline and a Triple-E Senate would help? 
Interesting option .... http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/25692.0.html
 
Ack!!  Good governanvce comes from smart governance, (not wiley).
 
Here, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright Act from today’s Globe and Mail, is a commentary from former PCO Clerk, diplomat and Ottawa insider Norman Spector:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080307.wcospector07/BNStory/Front/home
When is a retreat not a retreat? When nobody notices

NORMAN SPECTOR

From Friday's Globe and Mail
March 7, 2008 at 4:57 AM EST

How dire is Stéphane Dion's situation? With television personalities ridiculing him, can it be much longer before wait-and-abstain Liberals begin to scapegoat their leader and press for a new one?

More than the professional kibitzers, however, Mr. Dion should be concerned that large chunks of the media have bought into the Conservative definition of him as feckless.

All politicians have their weaknesses: Mr. Dion - particularly in his home province - is seen as rigid and stubborn. However, even his bitterest opponents concede he is a man of significant intellectual accomplishment. And in the rest of Canada, the Liberal Leader is admired for his epistolary exchanges on sovereignty with Lucien Bouchard - a classically trained brain himself. Yet, in his fight with Stephen Harper over the Afghanistan mission, Mr. Dion was given scarcely any credit for tenaciousness. Worse, after he won the argument, scarcely anyone noticed.

It's to Mr. Harper's good fortune to have pressed Mr. Dion into a media template where even when he wins, he loses. Who could have imagined that the Prime Minister's implicit admission to have goofed politically by committing unambiguously to Afghanistan would be greeted as another example of his strategic prowess? True, the Liberals have agreed to extend the Afghan mission to 2011. But didn't the PM insist all along that it was not feasible to set an end date?

Come to think of it, hasn't Mr. Harper rejected a second key recommendation of John Manley's panel? It's one thing to lay down an ultimatum that Canada will stay in Kandahar only if our allies provide an additional 1,000 troops. It will be quite another to inform NATO that we'll be leaving in 2011, whatever they decide.

It wasn't so long ago that Mr. Harper was embracing Mr. Manley's report; in fact, I'd wager the Prime Minister was preparing to fight an election on the recommendations that would have divided the Liberal Party as free trade divided it in 1988. Yet, far from exposing Mr. Harper when he beat a retreat, the media immediately turned their attention to whether Mr. Dion would have the guts to bring down the government on its budget. What happened there?

Could the fact that Mr. Manley has been hung out to dry after producing recommendations that went against the grain of the Liberal Party explain why he's not returning phone calls these days?

And what's one to make of Derek Burney - a member of the Manley panel and never known to be a shrinking violet - having an assistant issue an anodyne statement to CP? (It read: "I'm happy that our report seems to be having a positive impact on parliamentary debate.") The CP dispatch went on to include a remarkably clear statement by another panel member, Pamela Wallin: "I don't think any of us think that some arbitrary date is really going to be it." Yet, few papers picked up that CP story.

In shrewdly announcing the compromise Afghanistan motion at a defence conference, Mr. Harper engaged in a classic misdirection play. Reporters noted the enthusiastic reception he received, but failed to note that it was due to his government's record in rebuilding military pride and weaponry. International media were not fooled: The headline in the London Daily Telegraph said it all: "Canadians to quit Afghanistan." And The New York Times reported last week, "Because Mr. Harper's party does not control a majority of the votes in the House of Commons, he recently agreed to a Liberal Party plan to set December 2011 as an end date."

Mr. Harper could have had the election many observers believe he's been trying to engineer, but he decided to cut and, if not exactly run from Afghanistan, at least jog out of that country. When the election does come, he'll have to squelch any talk of a majority Conservative government's "hidden agenda" by foreclosing the option of extending the mission beyond 2011.

All of which makes one wonder on what hill he is prepared to see his government die, if not on one where 80 young Canadians have already given their lives and others will follow - in pursuit of objectives in Kandahar that we now know are less important to Mr. Harper than forming a majority government in Ottawa.

Despite the lead-in paragraphs, this is not about M. Dion’s all too evident weaknesses; it is about Mr. Harper’s underhanded rejection of the Manley Report’s key recommendations. Canada has, as The Daily Telegraph suggests, “quit Afghanistan” – just not right now, à la Jack Layton but, rather, later as Stéphane Dion demanded.

The optics were well managed by Mr. Harper; perhaps the tactics are right, too – perhaps the Afghanistan mission is just part, and not a winnable part, of a wider war which we will be better able to fight when are forces are home, rested, reinforced and re-equipped; maybe, and one can debate the issue, even the strategy is right – maybe we do need to get out from under the NATO umbrella and engage in this Clash of Civilizations in different terms, with fewer but stauncher allies. But, what about the principles?
 
I agree with your sentiments ER.....running away, whether walking backwards, forwards, etc., is still running away and leaves a taste..
 
I would point out that the "current mission" - defined by the Afghanistan Compact-is going to end in 2011.  Setting a concurrent end date doesn't preclude asking for a new mandate in 2010.  The Bonn Agreement of 2004 has already morphed into the Compact.
 
Kirkhill said:
I would point out that the "current mission" - defined by the Afghanistan Compact-is going to end in 2011.   Setting a concurrent end date doesn't preclude asking for a new mandate in 2010.  The Bonn Agreement of 2004 has already morphed into the Compact.

Agreed; and the Government should have amended its motion, as I recommended, to make that clear. As it is they have, by inept drafting, made themselves appear to have cut and run even if that was not their intent.

Q: What's the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Government of Canada?
A: The Boy Scouts have adult leadership.
 
Q: What's the difference between the Boy Scouts and the Government of Canada?
A: The Boy Scouts have adult leadership.

Ouuuch  ;D

And a string of court cases resulting from suspect selection criteria.....Oh wait.  That applies to Canadian politicians as well.
 
The following, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright Act from today’s Globe and Mail, is a report on John Manley’s comments to the HoC committee examining the Government’s motion based, loosely, on his report:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080312.wafghan12/BNStory/Afghanistan/home
Manley defends call for 1,000 more soldiers
Number is a bare minimum, panel leader explains, as separate report says Canada's Afghan mission will run $1-billion over budget this year

STEVEN CHASE

From Wednesday's Globe and Mail
March 12, 2008 at 12:30 AM EDT

OTTAWA — One thousand more combat troops in Kandahar is just the minimum soldiering help that Canada needs from NATO allies in order to remain in deadly southern Afghanistan, John Manley told MPs Tuesday.

The Tory government also scrambled Tuesday to explain a report that the Afghanistan mission will run $1-billion over budget this fiscal year.

The government did not deny the budget blowout for 2007-08 reported in Montreal's La Presse newspaper. It simply warned that the $1-billion was based on preliminary estimates that cannot be confirmed until after the end of the fiscal year later this month.

Documents obtained under the Access to Information Act indicate the mission has cost Canadian taxpayers at least $7.5-billion since 2001 – double what was budgeted. The documents say the mission cost $538-million more than expected over the first six months of the current fiscal year, and is projected to overshoot its budget by another $539-million by March 31.

Mr. Manley, a former Liberal deputy prime minister, had been recalled by MPs to answer more questions about the influential February report tabled by his panel, including how it came up with a recommendation that 1,000 more NATO troops are needed to help the Canadians in Kandahar.

Mr. Manley said the recommendation that Canada ask NATO for a battle group of at least 1,000 was based on advice from General Rick Hillier, Chief of the Defence Staff, and Brigadier-General Guy Laroche, the ground commander of Canadian troops last fall.

“In our report we recommended that should be the minimum,” Mr. Manley, the head of the independent panel that examined Canada's future mission in Afghanistan, told the Commons foreign-affairs committee Tuesday.

“Obviously if there were more, that would make it that much more likely that the mission could succeed,” Mr. Manley told reporters later. The figure has come under heavy scrutiny because other military leaders and agencies such as the Senlis Council have said far more soldiers are needed. The Senlis Council called for a doubling of North Atlantic Treaty Organization troop strength in Afghanistan, and one Canadian commander last month said Canada needs as many as 5,000 professional soldiers, double its current force, to hold Kandahar's key districts.

As Parliament prepares to vote on a Conservative motion to extend Canada's combat mission in Afghanistan Thursday, Mr. Manley acknowledged extra soldiering work alone won't cut it. He said the fight for the hearts and minds of Afghans will take stronger development work and diplomacy too, but stressed that these efforts need to be buttressed by a sizable military commitment.

“We can't win it militarily. [But] we could lose it militarily, however,” he told MPs.

“So we can't send the Salvation Army in. We've got to send the Canadian army in and they've got to be equipped and capable and able to do the job, but if that's all we do … this will not end happily.”

The Harper government has adopted the Manley panel's recommendation and signalled that it will not renew its deployment past 2009 unless other NATO allies come up with 1,000 troops.

Tuesday when asked about the cost overrun of the Afghan mission, Defence Minister Peter MacKay said the 2007-08 projection wasn't “necessarily accurate.”

“That's based on a number of assessments that really are speculating right now on what the final costs are going to be over a full year,” he said.

With a report from The Canadian Press

See also another report here that deals with the important matter of an ‘end’ date.


 
Here, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright Act from today’s Toronto Sun is a column that, I think pretty much sums up the state of play of the Parliament of Canada and the Afghanistan question:

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Weston_Greg/2008/03/13/4989796.php
Greg Weston

Thu, March 13th, 2008

Dion on run again
Liberal leader seems ready to capitulate on Afghanistan

By GREG WESTON

For months, ending Canada's combat role in Afghanistan has been one of Stephane Dion's only coherent and consistent stands on any issue of major national consequence.

Time and again, the Liberal leader could not have been more clear on Canada's biggest military engagement since 1945 -- it's time other NATO countries relieved our troops on the front lines of the Kandahar killing fields in Afghanistan.

"A Liberal government led by me will unequivocally commit to ending Canada's mission in Kandahar in 2009, and we will inform NATO of this deadline right away to ensure they find a replacement for Canada," Dion told a Montreal audience last month.

Polls have consistently shown Dion's position is shared by many Canadians who refuse to accept that Canada's future role in Afghanistan has to be an all-or-nothing proposition.

Like Dion, they believe Canada has a constructive role to play somewhere between the Conservative view of indefinite combat in Kandahar, and the NDP demand for complete withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Well, too bad for them. The political champion of their cause is about to turn tail and run.

As the sun sets on Parliament Hill today, all bets are that Stephane the Lily-Heart will once again sound the retreat, leading his Liberal troops into another show of embarrassing capitulation, this time surrendering to the Conservatives in the crucial Commons vote on Afghanistan.

The Liberals and Conservatives will no doubt try to characterize the vote as a triumph of non-partisan compromise between the two parties.

Don't believe it.

Rhetoric

Peel away all the colourful rhetoric, and the lengthy motion being put before Parliament today commits Canadian troops to three more years in Kandahar, three more years on the front lines of the most dangerous battlefields of the entire Afghan conflict.

The motion uses words such as security and defence to couch the harsh realities of the war -- things such as engaging in firefights with the Taliban, and getting killed.

But the sum effect of all this controversial verbiage will be to continue the status quo with some additional reinforcements, a few new aircraft, and the odd change to the public relations department.

The motion repeats the Harper government's threat to pull out Canadian forces next year unless other NATO countries send at least 1,000 more troops to Kandahar.

So far, judging by the complete dearth of offers, no one seems to be taking Canada's threat too seriously.

In any case, it doesn't mean much in practice. Yesterday, Defence Minister Peter MacKay told the CBC he was pretty certain the U.S. Marines would be there for us if no one else shows up to help.

Similarly, today's motion also commits the Canadian military to acquiring at least six more troop transport helicopters, and a fleet of unmanned spy planes as recommended by the recent Manley report.

So far, the forever efficient purchasing department at National Defence is living up to its reputation for taking a year to order take-out -- to date, it has managed to secure only two choppers from the Polish air force (seriously).

Flowery descriptions

The rest of today's motion extending Canada's commitment until mid-2011 is filled with flowery descriptions of peacekeeping in a war zone.

For instance: It is the opinion of Parliament "that Canada's contribution to the reconstruction and development of Afghanistan should be revamped and increased to strike a better balance between our military efforts and our development efforts."

Exactly how that might happen will be left to the generals who will no doubt be happy to oblige once the Taliban quit blowing up our troops and shooting at aid workers.

As the Liberals rise in the Commons today to support the Harper government in extending Canada's combat mission in Afghanistan, it can safely be said that war is too important to be left to the politicians.

Many Milnet.ca members will disagree with the views Weston ascribes to “many Canadians” (he really could have said “most”) but I think he’s got it right. Canadians, broadly, neither understand nor support the mission in Afghanistan. We can and should blame successive Canadian administrations, Chrétien’s, Martin’s and now Harper’s for being unwilling (I, personally refuse to accept that they are unable) to explain or “sell” the mission. The reason is that none of those three care a tinker’s dam for Canada’s “Role of pride and influence in the world”* or for Canada’s much touted Responsibility to Protect (R2P). Nor should they, I guess, because it is very clear to me that Canadians, broadly and deeply, care nothing at all for either of those things. The vast majority of our fellow citizens, including many, many of our friends and relatives and most of our neighbours, are animated by two defining characteristics: greed and envy. We look, like beggar children with our noses pressed to the store window, at everything our American neighbours ‘have’ – even, perhaps often especially, thing things that are quite worthless, like a celebrity obsessed culture – and they want it all, now and for free. In their public affairs Canadians, broadly, display the attitude of the mythical Russian peasant who had only one cow and envied his neighbour who had two: every morning he went to church, fell to his knees and prayed, “Please, God, be fair, make us all equal – kill one of Ivan’s cows.”

Why should Chrétien, Martin and Harper have bothered to spend scarce political capital on an issue that does not, cannot resonate with most Canadians because it is not an immediate, overwhelming threat to the “sacred trusts” of Medicare, EI and pogey – all of which represent something for nothing.

I actually had some sympathy for Dion and Layton. They were, at least, being honest; saying what Canadians think: “Oh, to hell with the poor, war ravaged, long suffering people of Afghanistan and to hell with R2P!  Bring the troops home and stop spending my money on things of no direct, immediate benefit to me, Me ME!” Now, only Gilles Duceppe and Jack Layton speak “for the people” and no-one, not Dion and not Harper speaks for Canada’s principles.

We do, indeed, get the governments we deserve. 

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* The title of Paul Martin’s aborted 2006 foreign and defence policy statement


 
Well, according to this article, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright Act from today’s Globe and Mail (web edition), the motion to stay in Afghanistan until 2011, flawed as it is, passed. The Manley Commission did its job:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080313.wafghanmotion0313/BNStory/Front/home
Motion to extend Afghan mission passes

MURRAY BREWSTER

THE CANADIAN PRESS

March 13, 2008 at 6:14 PM EDT

OTTAWA — Members of Parliament voted to keep Canada's fight in Afghanistan going until 2011, even though the financial and human costs remain shrouded in the fog of war.

The Conservative government, backed by the Liberals, passed a motion that extends the deployment of troops, as long as certain conditions are met. The vote was 198-77 in favour, with the NDP and Bloc Quebecois opposed.

Critics were quick to warn the decision could push the Canadian military to the breaking point, the way the U.S. Army has been worn down by Iraq.

To remain in Kandahar, Ottawa has demanded NATO provide a minimum of 1,000 reinforcements, something the United States and other allies have quietly suggested will happen.

“We intend to hold them to this motion and it's pretty clear if they don't come up with the 1,000 troops and the (helicopter) airlift then all bets are off,” said Liberal MP Byron Wilfert.

He warned that the Liberals, who've taken credit for crafting the wording of the government motion, want an answer within weeks on whether it can meet the conditions, which include the purchase of six CH-47D Chinook helicopters and high-performance unmanned aircraft.

Passage of the motion gives Prime Minister Stephen Harper the clear political mandate he wanted heading into a meeting of NATO leaders in Bucharest, Romania, early next month.

But Liberal Senator Colin Kenny, head of the Senate security and defence committee, says MPs paid too much attention to the high political ideal of why the country is in Afghanistan.

They often failed to ask substantive questions, he said, such as what the ramifications might be on both the federal treasury and a military that increasingly relies on reservists and equipment under stress from continuous combat.

Last fall, the country's top military commander, Gen. Rick Hillier, promised that until 2009 every effort would be made to limit soldiers to one combat tour in Afghanistan. Despite that, some troops on the current six-month rotation were members of the original battle group that went into Kandahar in February 2006.

The head of army, Lt.-Gen. Andrew Leslie warned last year that improvised explosives and Kandahar's rutted roads were taking an unexpectedly harsh toll on armoured vehicles and equipment.

It was only in the waning hours of debate that MPs began to consider the question of financial cost, with published reports that the war was $1 billion over budget. The Defence Department countered that the figures were only projections until 2009 and that estimated costs beyond that had not been made final.

“This war is going to take a lot more money than this government is prepared to admit,” said Mr. Kenny. “This government is also clearly not prepared to invest in it.”

The Conservatives have made much of their promise in the latest federal budget to increase the Defence Department's funding by 1.5 per cent a year until 2011 — the year Canada is expected to withdraw from Afghanistan — and two per cent a year after that.

The increase barely keeps up with inflation and could leave the military with less money in the long-term as costs rise, Kenny said.

Jerrod Riley, of the Navy League of Canada, says the cost of the war is mixed in with the Defence Department's operating budget and that's why it's been hard to pin down.

Whenever the Kandahar mission has exceeded projections, the military has been forced to go back to the government and ask for a budget top up — something the Conservatives warned wasn't going to be possible this year.

The federal government funded the First and Second World Wars, as well as Korea, as separate budget items. It was only during the 1960s as Canada entered the era of peacekeeping operations that overseas deployments were mixed in within the overall Defence Department budget.

In the dying hours of debate, opponents of the war made a last-ditch and seemingly half-hearted attempt to avoid what for weeks seemed inevitable

The Canadian Peace Alliance, a collection of interest groups, appealed to MPs to vote against a Conservative government motion.

Brent Patterson, of the Council of Canadians, warned that his organization will keep tabs of who votes in favour of the extension and possibly campaign against them in the next election.

He says the Conservative government is being dishonest with the public by labelling it a training mission when Defence Minister Peter MacKay made it clear that combat will continue.

Some of the reaction – Brent Patterson of the Council of Canadians, for example – is just about what I expected: anti-military, anti-Canada vitriol.

Some other comment – such as ”The [budget] increase barely keeps up with inflation and could leave the military with less money in the long-term as costs rise” [Senator Colin] Kenny [Chair of the Senate security and defence committee] said. – make a whole lot of sense. Given the rate of inflation for military hardware and for fuel and ammunition the defence budget, despite the recent increases, is actually decreasing. The Government of Canada is disarming the country by stealth.
 
 
Here, reproduced 8under the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright Act fron today’s National Post, is a column by Don Martin that illustrates the problem created by poor drafting on the government’s part:

http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=373352&p=2
My emphasis added
This is not final word on mission

Don Martin, National Post

Published: Friday, March 14, 2008

OTTAWA -Spring has come to Kandahar with opium poppy and marijuana plants growing toward the first harvest beginning in about eight weeks.

That 's when the drug money starts flowing again to the Taliban, an insurgency living in the fields and using the crops as cover to launch their soldier-killing season in earnest.

But half a world away here in a snowdrifted landscape of wretched winter white, unless you live in chinook-blasted Alberta and B.C., of course, Afghanistan was the hot topic of political discussion.

The House of Commons ended 30-odd hours of debate yesterday by voting 198 to 77 to extend the military mission in southern Afghanistan for another three years.

Incredibly, more than 20 Liberals didn't show up, including such notables as chronic absentee and former prime minister Paul Martin, whose government made the initial call to deploy troops to the Kandahar danger zone.

Given this is by far the most important foreign policy decision of the year, if not the decade, the AWOLs had better have a doctor's note and not a tan.

But the human costs of this decision are far more important than any political tally.

Before this mission's next end date in December, 2011, another 12,500 soldiers will decamp from their families in bases across Canada, some doing a second or third rotation, and head into war.

If current casualty rates continue, more than 150 will not return -- a horrifying one-in-80 chance of dying for their home country and a foreign one with a history of chronic conflict and unbeaten insurgency.

And yet, the vote was arguably this oft-angry Parliament's finest hour because it featured debate that, while testy and partisan with the odd 'Taliban Jack' Layton cheapshot thrown in, was generally respectful and reflecting of divided Canadian opinion on the mission's merits.

All told, about 80 different MP speakers-- coincidentally one for every death in Afghanistan to date -- spanned more than four days of discussion.

As the debate moved ahead, Parliament was visited by six female Afghan politicians as a poignant sign of progress in a country where women were burka-bound and kept out of jobs and schools until the Taliban was ousted by foreign forces in early 2002.

(Not that it's totally relevant, but the Afghan six were only two women shy of their gender's representation in the Conservative Cabinet. In fact, others have observed there are more women in the Afghanistan government than the Harper government. I digress.)

Yet thanks to the unification of the governing Conservatives and the opposition Liberals yesterday, Chief of Defence Staff Rick Hillier can claim to have received a parliamentary morale boost for the troops.

Far from pulling out of combat and leaving Canadian troops armed with shovels and good intentions, the decision essentially endorses the status quo with a preferred emphasis on training and humanitarian work.

So just in case the Taliban are reading this, let me translate: Bomb or shoot at Canadian troops and our soldiers will shoot back, aiming to kill, for at least another three years.

Of course, one doubts whether most soldiers on that dusty battlefield give two hoots about how MPs voted which way on the Afghanistan question.

All they know for sure is that the mission math adds up to another tour of duty for most of them as a stretched military struggles to field another five rotations before the withdrawal date.

The only possible obstacle to the extension would be Canada's failure to secure another 1,000 NATO troops to bolster its Kandahar base, a condition of the new departure date.

But sources high in Foreign Affairs say private assurances have been received that a combination of French and American forces will be shipped to Kandahar next year, along with the helicopter support demanded in the motion.

While it may be a tad early to be talking this way, yesterday's verdict is far from the final word on the mission.

It's merely an arbitrary end date to meet current political objectives, not a military measure of success to justify the proposed departure.

If there's clear progress in the war against the Taliban and terrorism, this extension will not be the final question on Canada in Afghanistan.

dmartin@canwest.com

No matter what the government’s intentions may have been they have, in fact, gone directly against the advice proffered through Mr. Manley by the best experts in the field and they have set yet another withdrawal date, just as the Liberals demanded – for no good or even ‘not so bad’ reason.

It would have been good, proper and useful to tie a full review of the mission to the renegotiation (I have no doubt that will happen) of the Afghanistan Compact in 2010. But that’s not what the motion says. Either the government intended to allow itself and its successors to be burdened with this issue for years to come (presumably to make nice with Dion's Liberals) or it is guilty of sloppy drafting.

In either event, Don Martin is right, this motion is not the final word. We can expect Barlow and Byres and Staples to keep on spewing their ill-informed, juvenile rubbish for years to come.
 
Politics is the art of the possible.
Otto Von Bismarck, remark, Aug. 11, 1867
German Prussian politician (1815 - 1898)

Unfortunately the military's requirement for clarity is often at odds with what the politicians. 

BB&S Inc would continue to spew regardless of the decision. They would spew if the troops were in Afghanistan. They would spew if they were in Darfur.  They would spew if they were back home in barracks. They have always spewed.  It is what they do.

IMH (& Biased) O the real villains of the piece here are the Liberals in general and Dion in particular. The lesser villain is Dion.  He is just feckless.  The greater villain is the Liberal Party trust that refuses to stand by their word or their obligations.  These are not Liberals that Alexander Mackenzie or Wilfrid Laurier or Louis St-Laurent would recognize.  They are truly heirs of Mackenzie King and Trudeau.
 
No matter what the government’s intentions may have been they have, in fact, gone directly against the advice proffered through Mr. Manley by the best experts in the field and they have set yet another withdrawal date, just as the Liberals demanded – for no good or even ‘not so bad’ reason

I am guessing that the Conservatives are banking on having a 4 year mandate with a majority for 2011, thus the vote becomes moot.
 
GAP said:
I am guessing that the Conservatives are banking on having a 4 year mandate with a majority for 2011, thus the vote becomes moot.

I'm not so sure.

First: The Conservatives are a long, long way away from a good, solid shot at a majority.

Second: The Conservatives have established and now reinforced a precedent of allowing parliament to decide on missions short (well short!) of war. It's hard to imagine any opposition party standing still for any followup deployment (beyond an initial six-month mandate) to, say, Darfur, without a full scale parliamentary debate.

I believe the initial motion/debate had nothing at all to do with policy or parliamentary procedure and everything to do with a cheap-shot attempt by Stephen Harper to drive a wedge between the factions of the then leaderless Liberals - the worst sort of cheap, ward-heeling, partisan politics played on the backs of Canadian soldiers. Having extended the mission to one arbitrary, senseless end-date Harper is now forced to go back, cap-in-hand, to extend it - and this time he screwed up the motion by adding yet another arbitrary, senseless end date.

I think he's hoist on his own petard, by his own, not the Liberals' efforts and, despite the fact that I'm a card carrying, dues paying Conservative, I feel no sympathy. Harper messed this up - it's a poorly drafted motion and he's going to suffer for it.
 
I believe the initial motion/debate had nothing at all to do with policy or parliamentary procedure and everything to do with a cheap-shot attempt by Stephen Harper to drive a wedge between the factions of the then leaderless Liberals - the worst sort of cheap, ward-heeling, partisan politics played on the backs of Canadian soldiers. Having extended the mission to one arbitrary, senseless end-date Harper is now forced to go back, cap-in-hand, to extend it - and this time he screwed up the motion by adding yet another arbitrary, senseless end date.

Mr. Campbell you sound almost as opposed to Stephen Harper, as I, a well-established Liberal.  Is it time for the knives to come out in the Conservative Party?  If not, at which point do you think it would be necessary (i.e. Harper continues to proceed in the same manner in the House on Afghanistan and other foreign policy) if at all.  In any event, who would you like to succeed Stephen Harper?  Jim Prentice? 
 
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