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jollyjacktar
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You can't say they're not friendly with all the hugs (xxx) in their correspondence. Probably a ploy to distract from the slow services.
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Tidbit of information from my last conversation w/ VAC:
"Letters" regarding the top-up will start going out Apr 1.
You know that letter saying, essentially; "we're going to give you some money for messing up your body, here are your options."?
That letter.
Again, it STARTS on Apr 1. That implies it may (read: will) take a while to get everyone's letters out.
THEN the wait time to actually receive the money will begin once VAC receives your reply.
Someone said they'd be surprised if they got any top-up before Sept 2017? You're probably bang-on-target.
"Letters" regarding the top-up will start going out Apr 1.
You know that letter saying, essentially; "we're going to give you some money for messing up your body, here are your options."?
That letter.
Again, it STARTS on Apr 1. That implies it may (read: will) take a while to get everyone's letters out.
THEN the wait time to actually receive the money will begin once VAC receives your reply.
Someone said they'd be surprised if they got any top-up before Sept 2017? You're probably bang-on-target.
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I was doing a little 'light' reading of bill C-15 which is the bill to implement the measures of the last years budget, which our top-up falls under. There is a section I have found that will provide clarity on one aspect that no one seems to be sure. I have included the entire portion of the text and bolded the appropriate section, however, please see section 106 as it will state the top up is to be paid as a lump sum. I am not here to start a debate or get anyone upset about this, as on multiple means, Facebook, private conversations, etc, no one seems to have an answer. I am just providing something from the Government in black and white as to how it will be administered. I firmly believe VAC has a policy in place but are under orders not to talk about it until April 1. I also am a believer in the fact that all the work is currently done and they will provide us with information either via Canada Post or MyVAC within a few days after the date.
Again, just stating my feelings on how I think VAC is going to deal with this and providing hard copy of the 'formula' and how they are paying. Please see attached link and search section 106 and it will take you directly there
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=8385247
Disability Award and Death Benefit
Definitions
99 The following definitions apply in this section and sections 100 to 111.
Act means the Canadian Forces Members and Veterans Re-establishment and Compensation Act. (Loi)
dependent child has the same meaning as in subsection 2(1) of the Act. (enfant à charge)
Minister means the Minister of Veterans Affairs. (ministre)
survivor has the same meaning as in subsection 2(1) of the Act. (survivant)
Member or veteran who received disability award
100 (1) The Minister must pay to a member or a veteran who received, in whole or in part, a disability award under section 45, 47 or 48 of the Act before April 1, 2017, and who is alive on April 1, 2017, an amount determined in accordance with the formula
A − B
where
A
is the amount set out in column 3 of Schedule 3 to the Act, as that Schedule read on April 1, 2017, that corresponds to the member’s or veteran’s extent of disability, as set out in column 2, for which the disability award was received, reduced — for every calendar year from 2016 until the year in which the disability award was received — by a percentage calculated in accordance with the method of calculating the percentages by which the amounts set out in Schedule 3 to the Act are periodically adjusted; and
B
is the amount of the disability award that was payable to the member or the veteran under subsection 52(1) of the Act.
Death of member or veteran before amount paid
(2) If the member or veteran dies before the amount is paid under subsection (1), the Minister must pay that amount, in accordance with section 55 of the Act, to a survivor or a person who was, at the time of the member’s or veteran’s death, a dependent child.
Death of member or veteran before April 1, 2017
101 If a member or a veteran who received, in whole or in part, a disability award under section 45, 47 or 48 of the Act before April 1, 2017 dies before that day, the Minister must pay, in accordance with section 55 of the Act, to a survivor or a person who was, at the time of the member’s or veteran’s death, a dependent child — if that survivor or person is alive on April 1, 2017 — an amount determined in accordance with the formula
A − B
where
A
is the amount set out in column 3 of Schedule 3 to the Act, as that Schedule read on April 1, 2017, that corresponds to the member’s or veteran’s extent of disability, as set out in column 2, for which the disability award was received, reduced — for every calendar year from 2016 until the year in which the disability award was received — by a percentage calculated in accordance with the method of calculating the percentages by which the amounts set out in Schedule 3 to the Act are periodically adjusted; and
B
is the amount of the disability award that was payable to the member or the veteran under subsection 52(1) of the Act.
Disability award received by survivor or dependent child
102 The Minister must pay, in accordance with section 55 of the Act, to a person who received a disability award under subsection 50(1) or (2) of the Act before April 1, 2017, and who is alive on April 1, 2017, an amount determined in accord-ance with the formula
A − B
where
A
is the amount set out in column 3 of Schedule 3 to the Act, as that Schedule read on April 1, 2017, that corresponds to the member’s or veteran’s extent of disability, as set out in column 2, for which the disability award was received, reduced — for every calendar year from 2016 until the year in which the disability award was received — by a percentage calculated in accordance with the method of calculating the percentages by which the amounts set out in Schedule 3 to the Act are periodically adjusted; and
B
is the amount of the disability award that was payable under subsection 52(1) of the Act.
Death benefit
103 The Minister must pay, in accordance with section 59 of the Act, to a person who received a death benefit under section 57 of the Act before April 1, 2017, and who is alive on April 1, 2017, an amount determined in accordance with the formula
A − B
where
A
is the amount set out in item 3, column 2, of Schedule 2 to the Act, as that Schedule read on April 1, 2017, reduced — for every calendar year from 2016 until the year in which the death benefit was received — by a percentage calculated in accordance with the method of calculating the percentages by which the amount set out in item 3, column 2, is periodically adjusted; and
B
is the amount of the death benefit that was payable under subsection 58(1) of the Act.
Application
104 Sections 100 to 102 apply in respect of each disability award received by or in respect of a member or a veteran.
Amount of award or benefit equal to zero
105 For the purposes of sections 100 to 103, a person is considered to have received a disability award or a death benefit even if the amount that was paid to them was equal to zero.
Lump sum
106 An amount that is to be paid under any of sections 100 to 103 is to be paid as a lump sum.
Again, just stating my feelings on how I think VAC is going to deal with this and providing hard copy of the 'formula' and how they are paying. Please see attached link and search section 106 and it will take you directly there
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=8385247
Disability Award and Death Benefit
Definitions
99 The following definitions apply in this section and sections 100 to 111.
Act means the Canadian Forces Members and Veterans Re-establishment and Compensation Act. (Loi)
dependent child has the same meaning as in subsection 2(1) of the Act. (enfant à charge)
Minister means the Minister of Veterans Affairs. (ministre)
survivor has the same meaning as in subsection 2(1) of the Act. (survivant)
Member or veteran who received disability award
100 (1) The Minister must pay to a member or a veteran who received, in whole or in part, a disability award under section 45, 47 or 48 of the Act before April 1, 2017, and who is alive on April 1, 2017, an amount determined in accordance with the formula
A − B
where
A
is the amount set out in column 3 of Schedule 3 to the Act, as that Schedule read on April 1, 2017, that corresponds to the member’s or veteran’s extent of disability, as set out in column 2, for which the disability award was received, reduced — for every calendar year from 2016 until the year in which the disability award was received — by a percentage calculated in accordance with the method of calculating the percentages by which the amounts set out in Schedule 3 to the Act are periodically adjusted; and
B
is the amount of the disability award that was payable to the member or the veteran under subsection 52(1) of the Act.
Death of member or veteran before amount paid
(2) If the member or veteran dies before the amount is paid under subsection (1), the Minister must pay that amount, in accordance with section 55 of the Act, to a survivor or a person who was, at the time of the member’s or veteran’s death, a dependent child.
Death of member or veteran before April 1, 2017
101 If a member or a veteran who received, in whole or in part, a disability award under section 45, 47 or 48 of the Act before April 1, 2017 dies before that day, the Minister must pay, in accordance with section 55 of the Act, to a survivor or a person who was, at the time of the member’s or veteran’s death, a dependent child — if that survivor or person is alive on April 1, 2017 — an amount determined in accordance with the formula
A − B
where
A
is the amount set out in column 3 of Schedule 3 to the Act, as that Schedule read on April 1, 2017, that corresponds to the member’s or veteran’s extent of disability, as set out in column 2, for which the disability award was received, reduced — for every calendar year from 2016 until the year in which the disability award was received — by a percentage calculated in accordance with the method of calculating the percentages by which the amounts set out in Schedule 3 to the Act are periodically adjusted; and
B
is the amount of the disability award that was payable to the member or the veteran under subsection 52(1) of the Act.
Disability award received by survivor or dependent child
102 The Minister must pay, in accordance with section 55 of the Act, to a person who received a disability award under subsection 50(1) or (2) of the Act before April 1, 2017, and who is alive on April 1, 2017, an amount determined in accord-ance with the formula
A − B
where
A
is the amount set out in column 3 of Schedule 3 to the Act, as that Schedule read on April 1, 2017, that corresponds to the member’s or veteran’s extent of disability, as set out in column 2, for which the disability award was received, reduced — for every calendar year from 2016 until the year in which the disability award was received — by a percentage calculated in accordance with the method of calculating the percentages by which the amounts set out in Schedule 3 to the Act are periodically adjusted; and
B
is the amount of the disability award that was payable under subsection 52(1) of the Act.
Death benefit
103 The Minister must pay, in accordance with section 59 of the Act, to a person who received a death benefit under section 57 of the Act before April 1, 2017, and who is alive on April 1, 2017, an amount determined in accordance with the formula
A − B
where
A
is the amount set out in item 3, column 2, of Schedule 2 to the Act, as that Schedule read on April 1, 2017, reduced — for every calendar year from 2016 until the year in which the death benefit was received — by a percentage calculated in accordance with the method of calculating the percentages by which the amount set out in item 3, column 2, is periodically adjusted; and
B
is the amount of the death benefit that was payable under subsection 58(1) of the Act.
Application
104 Sections 100 to 102 apply in respect of each disability award received by or in respect of a member or a veteran.
Amount of award or benefit equal to zero
105 For the purposes of sections 100 to 103, a person is considered to have received a disability award or a death benefit even if the amount that was paid to them was equal to zero.
Lump sum
106 An amount that is to be paid under any of sections 100 to 103 is to be paid as a lump sum.
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Fair enough, so that would imply there will be no letters of "how would you like to receive your benefits". It will simply be paid out as lump sum, asap.
Maybe the letters the VAC employee I spoke to was alluding to are more along the lines of "direct deposit or cheque?" kind of thing.
Either way, I don't expect this to happen quickly. My experiences with VA seem to transpire over years, not weeks or months. Maybe I'm just jaded and cynical at this point.
Maybe the letters the VAC employee I spoke to was alluding to are more along the lines of "direct deposit or cheque?" kind of thing.
Either way, I don't expect this to happen quickly. My experiences with VA seem to transpire over years, not weeks or months. Maybe I'm just jaded and cynical at this point.
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CombatMacgyver said:
Probably a letter stating your listed payable disabilities with each year, along with the difference between what you should have gotten, with a final sum and a statement about when you can expect to receive a direct deposit.
As someone stated above, people might end up with the letters after they've already gotten the deposit, similar to MyVAC showing approval for a disability award and weeks later the official letter shows up. I even had my Stage 3 "This will take 16 weeks letter" show up 2 months after it was dated, and 2 weeks later my award was approved online.
Another bigger issue here, is that if VAC knows the details on how they're going to do everything, they should be stating those facts to veterans instead of hiding from them. It proves the culture of deceit and hidden facts from VAC.
thunderbolt
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You beat me to it! I was just reading those faq's
Looks like it clears up most peoples questions.
Looks like it clears up most peoples questions.
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slayer/raptor
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I'm still confused, in my case I was at 10% disability in 2015 where I received 30 669.82$ (B) and the 100% was 306 698.20$. So now that the new award has been adjusted, the 2015 100% value is 350 128.13 with 10% being 35 012.81$ (A).
So is my award top up going to be A-B = 4 342.99$
OR:
New award 100% for 2017 is 360 000$ therefore 10% is 36 000$ (C)
So my award would be C-B: 5 330.18$
Any help would be great.
So is my award top up going to be A-B = 4 342.99$
OR:
New award 100% for 2017 is 360 000$ therefore 10% is 36 000$ (C)
So my award would be C-B: 5 330.18$
Any help would be great.
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Deleted member 101027
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Is this true? Will the top up be delayed or reduced?
http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1083919&playlistId=1.3335420&binId=1.810401&playlistPageNum=1&binPageNum=1#_gus&_gucid=&_gup=twitter&_gsc=s4NiuXm
http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1083919&playlistId=1.3335420&binId=1.810401&playlistPageNum=1&binPageNum=1#_gus&_gucid=&_gup=twitter&_gsc=s4NiuXm
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Deleted member 101027
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Teager said:
ahhh, I understand now. There's just so much info out there, it makes it a little hard to find the most accurate source. Fake news, lol.
slayer/raptor
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slayer/raptor said:
Got my letter from VAC in my online VAC account stating the amount I would be getting. Unfortunately, it is Option A (first one). So the indexed amount minus the amount you actually received.
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I guess so many people tried logging in this morning that they crashed the site.
It's good that VAC actually met a timeline... they said we'd receive a letter the beginning of April. They said, payments would be sent out by mid-month. Let's see if they meet that timeline too.
It's good that VAC actually met a timeline... they said we'd receive a letter the beginning of April. They said, payments would be sent out by mid-month. Let's see if they meet that timeline too.
