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It matters not at all.Point being, what was accepted even 21 years ago is not acceptable today, so why would a reference to a movie filmed near 40 years ago matter?
Today, the Minister of National Defence, Anita Anand, announced the appointment of Madame Jocelyne Therrien as External Monitor to oversee the Department of National Defence (DND) and Canadian Armed Forces’ (CAF) efforts to address sexual misconduct and harassment on the Defence Team. In particular, Madame Therrien will monitor National Defence’s implementation of the various recommendations of former Supreme Court Justice Madame Arbour’s Independent External Comprehensive Review (IECR) into harassment and sexual misconduct on the Defence Team. This appointment delivers on recommendation 48 of the report, and will help ensure that meaningful culture change within the DND/CAF continues to occur.
Madame Therrien is a former executive of the Office of the Auditor General of Canada where she conducted numerous audits of federal government entities and led the Parliamentary and International portfolios. Recently, she was part of the review of four cases of workplace harassment within the RCMP. Madame Therrien began her federal public service career as a parole officer.
The External Monitor reports to the Minister of National Defence and has been appointed by the Governor in Council for an initial term of one year ...
'Inappropriate' fighter pilot nickname leads to charges against 2 senior Air Force officers
Lee Berthiaume · The Canadian Press · Posted: Nov 28, 2022 2:07 PM MT | Last Updated: 1 hour ago
A Canadian Armed Forces CF-18 fighter jet taxis after landing in Kuwait on October 28, 2014. Two senior Air Force officers have been charged for allegedly failing to stop a group of fighter pilots from assigning an inappropriate nickname to another member. (DND, Handout/Canadian Press)
Two senior Air Force officers have been charged for allegedly failing to stop a group of fighter pilots from assigning an inappropriate nickname to another member in June.
Col. Colin Marks and Lt.-Col. Corey Mask each face one charge of failing to effectively carry out their responsibilities and will face disciplinary hearings, according to the Royal Canadian Air Force.
Specifically, military police have accused the two officers of having failed to enforce the military's orders when it comes to preventing and addressing sexual misconduct.
Neither Marks nor Mask responded to requests for comment on Monday.
Air Force spokesman Maj. Trevor Reid said in a statement Monday that both officers were charged last month.
The charges are not criminal in nature, and Reid said their hearings will be conducted by other officers in Cold Lake, Alta.
Marks's hearing is scheduled for Dec. 12 and will be conducted by Col. Robert McBride, commander of 3rd Canadian Division Support Base Edmonton.
Neither hearing will be open to the public, Reid said.
"The Royal Canadian Air Force believes in a just culture, centred upon supporting victims and their well-being," Reid said in a written statement.
"We also believe in our members and in their ability and commitment to learn from their mistakes and to always strive to be better. The results of the summary hearings will be communicated following their conclusion."
Disciplinary responseA third, more junior officer was also charged with undermining discipline or morale "for having participated in the assignment of an inappropriate call sign," Reid said.
"Following a review of evidence, a summary hearing for this officer was determined to not be appropriate; rather, the chain-of-command has applied separate administrative measures as a disciplinary response."
The third officer's name was not released.
Administrative measures, which typically involve warnings and reprimands, have also been imposed on a number of other officers ranging in rank from second lieutenant to major, Reid added.
The charges and disciplinary actions stem from an informal meeting known as a "call sign review board" on June 22 at one of Canada's two main fighter jet bases, 4 Wing Cold Lake in Alberta.
A pilot positions a CF-18 fighter jet at the CFB Cold Lake, in Cold Lake, Alta. on Tuesday, October 21, 2014. The charges and disciplinary actions stem from an informal meeting this summer at 4 Wing Cold Lake in Alberta. (Jason Franson/The Canadian Press)
Despite their formal-sounding names, former fighter pilots have described such review boards as informal meetings after major training exercises or operations in which pilots assign nicknames, or call signs, to newer members over drinks.
According to the air force, during the meeting in June, several fighter pilots proposed, discussed and assigned an "inappropriate" call sign for another pilot.
Air Force commander Lt.-Gen. Eric Kenny first revealed an investigation into the meeting on June 22 when he announced in August that a ceremony to install Marks as commander of Canada's other fighter jet base, 3 Wing in Bagotville, Que., was being delayed.
'Exceptional circumstances'The revelation cast a spotlight on a long-standing tradition in Canada's military of assigning call signs at a time when the military is still dealing with the fallout from a rash of inappropriate — and in some cases criminal — behaviour by senior officers.
Retired lieutenant-colonel Rory Fowler, who is now a lawyer specializing on military cases, questioned the decision to conduct the hearings for Marks and Mask behind closed doors.
"While an officer conducting a summary hearing does have the discretion to close part, or all of a hearing, the expectation is that such a derogation from transparency will only arise in exceptional circumstances," Fowler said in an email.
Summary Hearing, not Trial.And an update on this one; looks like a couple of summary trials. Really annoying as now I'm highly curious what the nickname is. With all the secrecy it's either really bad or this is really overblown, can't figure out which. Unfortunately nothing will be on record like a CM so will never know.
Which I suppose is probably for the best, as it will probably stick anyway (at least behind that person's back).
Will they now reconvene the board to pick a new call sign? Or maybe just put together a call sign generator and have it randomly assigned for fun.
Because Top Gun will always matter.Equally as un-useful, the nickname of two of my Sgts in Cold Lake back in '01 was "Flamer"... They each referred to one another that way.
Point being, what was accepted even 21 years ago is not acceptable today, so why would a reference to a movie filmed near 40 years ago matter?