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Looks like Vance returned his CMM.
Sexual Misconduct Allegations in The CAF
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First honorable thing Vance has done in this whole debacle.
Bit like pouring a glass of water after setting the house on fire though...
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The PM said he would have no involvement in the removal/return of Vance's ORMM...unlike his participation in encouraging the Norman prosecution.
Honours is the exclusive prerogative of the Crown, through the Governor General as viceregal.
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Yup, knew that. I was simply paraphrasing le Dauphin who was asked if he would revoke Vance's ORMM. My aim was to contrast this against his statements regarding the Norman fiasco.
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Meanwhile, in Toronto:
A CBC investigation has linked victims of an alleged serial abuser. Two of the survivors were on parallel paths for decades, neither knowing the other existed. Now those paths have converged and together, the women seek answers.
Robinson and McKay have traveled remarkably similar paths since high school, but had never met in person.
Both married young, had children early and got divorced, twice each. Both attended university as mature students, established successful careers, and married again.
Before all that, as teenagers, both had sex with the same music teacher.
William Douglas Walker, 74, taught music for 25 years. As a warrant officer with the Canadian military, he recruited students into the Royal Regiment of Canada Band.
A CBC investigation has uncovered a dark history of alleged serial abuse in Toronto-area band programs dating back decades, and has connected victims, witnesses and events that were either missed, ignored or minimized by school administrators, the military and police.
The victims say while shame and guilt kept them from coming forward sooner, unsympathetic authorities and antiquated laws left them retraumatized – but also sent them on a search for accountability.
An apology would come, belatedly and indirectly, but not before the women would discover they aren’t the only ones to have endured this teacher’s abuse.
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A CBC investigation has linked victims of an alleged serial abuser. Two of the survivors were on parallel paths for decades, neither knowing the other existed. Now those paths have converged and together, the women seek answers.
Robinson and McKay have traveled remarkably similar paths since high school, but had never met in person.
Both married young, had children early and got divorced, twice each. Both attended university as mature students, established successful careers, and married again.
Before all that, as teenagers, both had sex with the same music teacher.
William Douglas Walker, 74, taught music for 25 years. As a warrant officer with the Canadian military, he recruited students into the Royal Regiment of Canada Band.
A CBC investigation has uncovered a dark history of alleged serial abuse in Toronto-area band programs dating back decades, and has connected victims, witnesses and events that were either missed, ignored or minimized by school administrators, the military and police.
The victims say while shame and guilt kept them from coming forward sooner, unsympathetic authorities and antiquated laws left them retraumatized – but also sent them on a search for accountability.
An apology would come, belatedly and indirectly, but not before the women would discover they aren’t the only ones to have endured this teacher’s abuse.
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More "Here's your hat - what's your hurry?" for Vance ...
globalnews.ca
Official notice attached
Gen. Jonathan Vance expelled from Royal Military College alumni group over guilty plea - National | Globalnews.ca
Global News has confirmed official photos of Jonathan Vance and Art McDonald have been temporarily removed from outside their former office.
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Does he get his lifetime membership fee back?More "Here's your hat - what's your hurry?" for Vance ...
Official notice attachedGen. Jonathan Vance expelled from Royal Military College alumni group over guilty plea - National | Globalnews.ca
Global News has confirmed official photos of Jonathan Vance and Art McDonald have been temporarily removed from outside their former office.
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Forget that. Do we as taxpayers get the framing costs for him and MacDonald back?
We didn't frame pictures for Admiral MacDonald as CDS. As understand it, he resigned in disgrace before he got around to sitting for his official portrait, saving the taxpayer some money in the process. And General Vance, as the longest ever serving CDS by far, also gave us good value if you value it in terms of portrait cost per year.
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Meanwhile, not to be outdone by some Canadian General
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I read that. WTF.
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Incoming... take cover
A lengthy and detailed report by former Supreme Court justice Louise Arbour on sexual harassment and misconduct in the Canadian military is set for release today.
The minister of national defence, Anita Anand, has had the report for more than a week and is holding a news conference at 12:30 p.m. ET with Arbour and the chief of the defence staff, Gen. Wayne Eyre.
Highly anticipated report on military's sexual misconduct crisis to be released today
Government has come under attack for failing to fully implement 2015 report's recommendationsA lengthy and detailed report by former Supreme Court justice Louise Arbour on sexual harassment and misconduct in the Canadian military is set for release today.
The minister of national defence, Anita Anand, has had the report for more than a week and is holding a news conference at 12:30 p.m. ET with Arbour and the chief of the defence staff, Gen. Wayne Eyre.
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That should ensure the new legal gun legislation being tabled today gets ignored by the MSM.
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And fuel the fire that only white males are (insert bad characteristics here)
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Watch the announcement live from here: https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2038095427717
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Presumably this one will be relevant and specific.
Good catch Haggis.
Unreal how insidious & sneaky politics can be. Open & transparent JT? Yeah…right…
I wonder where some of the big accusations over the last few years have come from?
Could it be the very same office that directed the RCMP to investigate a former VCDS, and charge him despite their recommendation not to?
Or seemingly countless accusations of sexual misconduct directed towards senior military personnel who don’t go along with the PM on everything? The same accusations which never seem to have a complainant mentioned, or result in any actual charges?
Nah…no way…
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