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Sexual Assault & Sexual Misconduct in the CF

eurowing

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I can't speak for pre 75, but at least until the mid 80's, porn was common on the projector or the VCR in wet canteens and mess tents. Both in the Army and Air force.  Times have certainly changed.
 

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Well, you wouldn't have guessed it, but we've got women in the Forces these days, and not all of them are keen to watch some lady get banged on the big screen....
 

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Infanteer said:
Well, you wouldn't have guessed it, but we've got women in the Forces these days, and not all of them are keen to watch some lady get banged on the big screen....

Dating would have been a lot easier if someone had only told me that years ago.....................
 

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I got out in 2008, I was very ok with the changes. I was never really a fan of public porn.
 

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eurowing said:
I got out in 2008, I was very ok with the changes. I was never really a fan of public porn.
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Never saw the attraction in a bunch of guys getting s**tfaced together and watching porn
 

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eurowing said:
I can't speak for pre 75, but at least until the mid 80's, porn was common on the projector or the VCR in wet canteens and mess tents. Both in the Army and Air force.

Twenty-four hours a day in the 427 Squadron Mess Tent during RV 85, until the CO decreed that it would go off during meal hours...

It was only ever the same three guys* sitting at the front hour after hour who seemed to pay any attention to it anyway.

I think that chicken was served once or twice as well.

The Mess Tent was also a "hazard" on the Squadron Ponk course, between a tee (beer can) and a hole (buried 48 ounce juice can), so a tennis ball would blast through the opening at one end and out through the other, presuming that nobody was struck in between (I think that that cost the player points), at random intervals.

*And no, Moe, I wasn't one of them.
 

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Bruce Monkhouse said:
Dating would have been a lot easier if someone had only told me that years ago.....................

Despite that.....you survived and procreated/prospered...... ;D
 

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eurowing said:
I can't speak for pre 75, but at least until the mid 80's, porn was common on the projector or the VCR in wet canteens and mess tents. Both in the Army and Air force.  Times have certainly changed.

I can recall being able to watch soft core porn at lunch at Yogi's in Petawawa while eating a Yogi Burger and having a pint :D I remember being in there one day when a guy went up to the bartender and asked to have it turned off, only to be berated by some female soldiers at one of the tables....good times...

Of course, to my young, naive eyes at the time, I could not believe they were showing what they were during daytime hours....

Edit: Sorry for the uber derail....
 

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There is a big difference between watching professional porn and a woman who is unknowingly being taped! 
 

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IRONMAN3 said:
There is a big difference between watching professional porn and a woman who is unknowingly being taped!
Exactly!  :mad:    Sorry, no sympathy for the scumbag here
 

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AFAIK it was his roomates who did the taping and the sexing, which is why the charges against him were dropped. 
 

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Shadowolf said:
AFAIK it was his roomates who did the taping and the sexing, which is why the charges against him were dropped.


But it appears that he was there and didn't prevent what was, at the very least, disgraceful conduct, if not sexual assault; and it even appears that he encouraged the crimes. In so far as my understanding of that past situation is correct (and I would be happy to be proven wrong) then I'm with Journeyman on this one.
 

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Only hope the police have got their act together on this one unlike a rather high profile sexual assault case involving another CO in 1995 who got off, thanks to bungling MPs.Another Logistics Officer BTW. I assume he is being charged by the RCMP in this case.
 

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a78jumper said:
Only hope the police have got their act together on this one unlike a rather high profile sexual assault case involving another CO in 1995 who got off, thanks to bungling MPs.Another Logistics Officer BTW. I assume he is being charged by the RCMP in this case.
Yep, the RCMP have taken to having CFNIS do their press releases.
 

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I did not say to be flippant. Many charges are passed over to the civilian authorities...eg drunk driving ,assault.
 

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a78jumper said:
I did not say to be flippant. Many charges are passed over to the civilian authorities...eg drunk driving ,assault.
That hasn't happened for years and years.  MP have jurisdiction to investigate the full spectrum of offences within the Criminal Code on CF establishments.  Just because certain offences don't get tried in the Military system either due to law (ie. Murder, Manslaughter, Abduction of children) or policy (impaired driving, domestic assault etc) doesn't mean civilian police have the jurisdiction to investigate them on Base.
 

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As far as I can tell, Maj Y has no convictions, therefore, he has a clean record.  As far as the current charges, as stated earlier, Maj Y is to be considered innocent. 

So, until convicted, nothing to see here.  :salute:
 

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Army recruiting gave unnecessary breast exam, witness tells court martial

Women testifying that a former military medic performed unauthorized breast exams on them are inventing stories, some of them to bolster their $1.4-million civil suits, the man’s lawyer said at a court martial in London Tuesday.

But the prosecution says the 16 women’s stories are so similar they clearly show a pattern of impropriety by former petty officer James Wilks, charged with 10 counts of sexual assault and 16 counts of breach of trust.

More at link
 

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Oh my...

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Don't feel bad. Two officers I knew, and held very high opinions of, were both found guilty of serious sex-related offences. Both times I asked myself how I could have been so off the mark in my estimation of them, until I realized that these people make an art of concealment and denial.
 
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