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Senate page fired for anti-Harper protest

GAP said:
Hmmmm....almost exactly what the opinion polls show as support for the Conservatives.....
The issue shouldn't be about whether or not her message was right. Regardless of what your political views are, I think that most people should have an understanding of what is an appropriate time and place for your views. I think protesting and speaking your mind are essential for a free democracy, but certain formal occasions, especially after the GG has appointed the elected government, should be left alone. I have read criticism that she added life to an otherwise stuffy and boring affair. I am of the view that if you feel that the throne speech ceremony is boring then don't watch it on TV, don't crash the party for those who respect the history and tradition of the event.
 
When I read stories such as this I am reminded of what loyalty to your employer means to me: "If you work for a man, in heaven's name work for him. If he pays you wages which supply you bread and butter, work for him; speak well of him; stand by him, and stand by the institution he represents. If put to a pinch, an ounce of loyalty is worth a pound of cleverness. If you must vilify, condemn, and eternally disparage, resign your position, and when you are outside, damn to your heart's content, but as long as you are part of the institution do not condemn it. If you do that, you are loosening the tendrils that are holding you to the institution, and at the first high wind that comes along, you will be uprooted and blown away, and will probably never know the reason why."
Elbert Hubbard
1856-1915




 
Nice quote.  While I may bitch and moan as that is the lower deck's/soldier's right, I do, do it within the confines of the system and not in the eye of the public/media.  She took the HOC's salt and should have stood by it.
 
What is really funny is how she and her supporters are actually "reactionary".

The Canadian Spring was ushered in by the voters, exercising their democratic rights and utilizing the various institutions which support our civil society. By protesting against the legitimate outcome of a democratic election and the stated platform of the winning political party, they are attempting to deligitimize elections and democratic institutions.

This sort of thinking has lots of unpleasant historical counterparts, including the civil strife which marked the downfall of the Res Publica Roma to the violent disintegration of the Weirmar Republic, when eventually the various factions decide that they will simply take what they want by force.
 
jollyjacktar said:
While I may bitch and moan as that is the lower deck's/soldier's right, I do, do it within the confines of the system and not in the eye of the public/media. 

Don't they say, "Worry about the soldiers / crew when they stop complaining." ? :)
 
          IF these anti Harper people truly wanted Harper out of government than they should of come out in force and voted him out of office sense they didn't its our gain ( us Harper supporters )  and  its there loss .
 
karl28 said:
          IF these anti Harper people truly wanted Harper out of government than they should of come out in force and voted him out of office sense they didn't its our gain ( us Harper supporters )  and  its there loss .

Well, they did kinda try, they just couldn't agree on who would be the best alternative.
 
gcclarke said:
Well, they did kinda try, they just couldn't agree on who would be the best alternative.

In which case the evidence would point to the fact that there really wasn't a best alternative and the people made the right decision after all.

Perhaps the Canadian people finally grew a pair as opposed to lining up periodically to be sheared. ;)
 
recceguy said:
Perhaps the Canadian people finally grew a pair as opposed to lining up periodically to be sheared. ;)
There's a t-shirt right there....
 
gcclarke said:
Well, they did kinda try, they just couldn't agree on who would be the best alternative.

Which would mean that there is no real alternative to Stephen Harper and he's the best man for the job at this point and time. Most of the anti-Harper folk have just bought into the left-wing fearmongering and think we'll live in a police state with no rights and forced religion classes everyday.
 
Perhaps the page job should now be filled by disabled veterans or reserve soldiers since university students clearly aren't up to the ethical demands of the job.
 
Colin P said:
Perhaps the page job should now be filled by disabled veterans or reserve soldiers since university students clearly aren't up to the ethical demands of the job.

I truly like that idea. :salute:

It would keep us front and centre in the eyes of those that make our pension and VAC rules. ;)
 
Colin P said:
Perhaps the page job should now be filled by disabled veterans or reserve soldiers since university students clearly aren't up to the ethical demands of the job.

Agree....mil points inbound
 
That stunt may have cost her $1,200.

"Pages are remunerated $11,807 divided in 26 equal instalments. Furthermore, upon satisfactory completion of their contract, they will receive an additional amount of $1,200. The Deputy Chief Page is remunerated $18,816. The Chief Page is remunerated $20,347. Furthermore, upon satisfactory completion of their contract, they will receive an additional amount of $1,200.":
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Employment/Senate/PageProgram/upon-e.htm

"They must work a minimum of 500 hours per year to receive full annual compensation."

"Accommodation:
While in Ottawa, Pages are responsible for the costs of their accommodation and for all other related expenses, including tuition fees, books, food, etc. The Senate could make arrangements to reserve rooms in the university residence for Pages upon request."
 
I think ColinP has a brilliant idea. Pro and cons though.

Filled by wounded CF pers only. They wear their medals as part of their dress on formal occasions, and undress ribbons everyday. Increase the pay  appropriately. Full time job.

Downside: being a gopher for MPs. Might teach the MP a little humility though. The MPs may remember to bring their own water.
 
Via Small Dead Animals. read more at link: http://memosfromjack.blogspot.com/

Follow the latest thoughts of Jack through these leaked memos.
Tuesday, June 7, 2011

June 7th: Brigitte Marcelle!
Memo to: Brad Lavigne

Re: Brigitte Marclle

Brad, let’s cancel Suzuki’s keynote at our upcoming 50th Anniversary Conference in Vancouver. I mean he’s good, but he’ll go on and on about the end of the world. I have no problem with that, but then the solution is always more and more David. And, why does his solution always entail buying more of his bloody books??? As if only he can save the planet. Sigh, he’s so old-school. To be honest, let’s go with someone with a positive attitude – Brigitte Marcelle has accepted our offer to be the keynote. She’s a can-do type of person and I want to inspire the troops, not get them all depressed.

Can we take her “Stop Harper” sign and make some slight changes? Let’s make it orange, and then put my face on the back. Then we can add a small handle so people can wave them! Can you get a quote on 4,000 of these suckers? What a sight that will be – everybody in the Convention Centre waving my “Stop Harper” signs, I mean, our “Stop Harper” signs. The press will eat this up – Craig assured me that CTV would play this up big-time, and Milewski even said he wants 20 of our signs for his local crew!

And, what a collectible piece they would make, no? Everybody is going to want one. So, we need to actually make more than 4,000. But, before you print up the signs, let’s make sure we trademark the “Stop Harper” slogan. This could be a huge money-maker for the NDP – signs, buttons, t-shirts, hats, pens, etc. Can you get Brigitte to sign a release form – I don’t think she really needs a cut of the action, do you?

I can sense some trouble with Libby. So, can you make 50 of those signs with Libby’s face on the back? That way, she can give one to all of the attendees at our ‘vegan circle’ lunch. If Libby wants more, she can buy them at our special MP price. Brad, I hope this heads off another one of her meltdowns. Yesterday– she was not one bit happy with how she appears on TV during question period. So, right in the middle of things, she tries to change seats with Mulcair, because she feels that his seat would highlight her better side. Mulcair wouldn’t budge and I had to promise Libby I’d see if I can change the camera angles. So, can you call Van Loan and see if they can adjust the cameras? Yet another area where the NDP can work with the Conservatives to make Parliament work.

Brad, if the Stanley Cup finals go to a game seven, I believe it will overlap with our Conference. So, here’s my plan. Let’s smuggle in 5,000 of these signs and get people to wave them during the game.

I assume everybody will wave them, right?

This will give us national coverage on the CBC and if we time this for when Don Cherry’s segment is on, we’ll hit a sweet spot. Cherry will go nuts! He’ll be frothing at the mouth, no? If we get him to go off the deep-end on national TV, I bet we can sell thousands of the suckers. And, guess what, who needs that fucking $2/vote subsidy when we can sell all of these “Stop Harper” signs???

Don’t you love our new can-do attitude?

Jack
 
The latest love-in from the Toronto Star. Reproduced under the usual caveats of the Copyright Act.

Toronto Star

June 08, 2011

Brigette DePape

I am moved by the excitement and energy with which people from all walks of life across this country greeted my action in the Senate.

One person alone cannot accomplish much, but they must at least do what they can. So I held out my “Stop Harper” sign during the throne speech because I felt I had a responsibility to use my position to oppose a government whose values go against the majority of Canadians.

The thousands of positive comments shared online, the printing of “Stop Harper” buttons and stickers and lawn signs, and the many calls for further action convinced me that this is not merely a country of people dissatisfied with Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s vision for Canada.

It is a country of people burning with desire for change.

If I was able to do what I did, I know that there are thousands of others capable of equal, or far more courageous, acts.

I think those who reacted with excitement realize that politics should not be left to the politicians, and that democracy is not just about marking a ballot every few years. It is about ensuring, with daily engagement and resistance, that the vision we have for our society is reflected in the decision-making of our government.

Our views are not represented by our political system. How else could we have a government that 60 per cent of the people voted against? A broken system is what has left us with a Conservative government ready to spend billions on fighter jets we don’t need, to pollute the environment we want protected, to degrade a health-care system we want improved, and to cut social programs and public sector jobs we value. As a page, I witnessed one irresponsible bill after another pass through the Senate, and wanted to scream “Stop.”

Such a system leads us to feel isolated, powerless and hopeless — thousands of Canadians made that clear in their responses to my action. We need a reminder that there are alternatives. We need a reminder that we have both the capacity to create change, and an obligation to. If my action has been that reminder, it was a success.

Media and politicians have argued that I tarnished the throne speech, a solemn Canadian tradition. I now believe more in another tradition — the tradition of ordinary people in this country fighting to create a more just and sustainable world, using peaceful direct action and civil disobedience.

On occasion, that tradition has found an inspiring home within Parliament: In 1970, for instance, a group of young women chained themselves to the parliamentary gallery seats to protest the Canadian law that criminalized abortion. Their action won national attention, and helped propel a movement that eventually achieved abortion’s legalization.

Was such an action “appropriate”? Not in the conventional sense. But those women were driven by insights known to every social movement in history: that the ending of injustices or the winning of human rights are never gifts from rulers or from parliaments, but the fruit of struggle and of people power in the streets.

Actions like these provide the answer to the Harper government. When Harper tries to push through policies and legislation that hurt our communities and country, we all need to find our inner activist, and flow into the streets. And what is a stop sign after all, but a nod to the symbol of the street where a people amassed can put the brakes on the Harper government?

I’ve been inspired by Canadians taking action, and inspired too by my peers rising up in North Africa and the Middle East. I am honoured to have since received a message from young activists there, saying that we need not just an Arab spring but a “world spring,” using people power to combat whatever ills exists in each country.

I have been inspired most of all by Asmaa Mahfouz, the 26-year-old woman who issued a video calling for Egyptians to join her in Tahrir Square. People did, and they together made the Egyptian revolution. Her words will always stay with me: “As long as you say there is no hope, then there will be no hope, but if you go and take a stand, then there will be hope.”

Brigette DePape is a recent graduate of the University of Ottawa. She has started a fund to support peaceful direct action and civil disobedience against the Harper agenda: www.stopharperfund.ca

Nice rant, wonder who her speech writer is? 
 
How else could we have a government that 60 per cent of the people voted against?

:brickwall:


Why is this bullshyte line allowed to continue.....urghh
 
Jack Layton actually stands up for civility:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/celebrity-and-controversy-surround-parliaments-rogue-page/article2048127/

Celebrity and controversy surround Parliament’s rogue page
ANNE MCILROY
OTTAWA— From Monday's Globe and Mail
Published Sunday, Jun. 05, 2011 9:32PM EDT
Last updated Monday, Jun. 06, 2011 7:47AM EDT
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Brigette DePape, the rogue page, missed her convocation ceremony Sunday at the University of Ottawa because she was too busy doing media interviews.

The 21-year-old became an instant celebrity Friday after she silently disrupted the Speech from the Throne by holding up the “Stop Harper” sign she had smuggled in under her skirt. She was escorted out and fired from her job in the Senate, but says she is elated by the positive reaction to her 20-second act of civil disobedience.

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“I have been really inspired because there have been thousands of people who have sent messages or commented on the Internet. People know that hope for change is possible when we start taking action.”

She has also gotten a few job offers that she’s now considering, but says her focus is on building a strong “resistance movement” and says she is looking forward to some coming rallies.

She has won the support of high-profile documentary maker Michael Moore, who featured her on his website Sunday.

The offers of employment have come from the Public Service Alliance of Canada, the Council of Canadians and from a journalistic organization, she said.

Not everyone, of course, has been supportive. Her father, who lives in her home town of Winnipeg, was critical.

“He questions whether this will achieve real change,” she said.

Opposition Leader Jack Layton also disapproved.

“I think it’s wrong,” he told the CTV program Question Period.

“We have been pushing for decorum in the House of Commons. You don’t have decorum if people are standing up holding up signs in the middle of debates and solemn moments. … We encourage protests, it is part of a great long tradition of democracy. But it should be happening at the proper place and at the proper time.”


But her mother was proud of her and her two sisters were positive about her protest.

“It is only through these inappropriate actions that we will challenge the status quo,” Ms. DePape said. “If it weren’t for non-violent direct action taken by women for the right to vote, as a woman, I wouldn’t have been able to vote in the last election.”

Ms. DePape started as a page in the Senate in September and her contract would have ended in August. In her spare time, she likes to write poetry and plays.

She said the Conservative government’s policies on the environment, especially climate change, are destructive. She wants Ottawa to spend less on fighter jets and corporate tax cuts and more on social programs.

She wants to build on the momentum her protest has created and said that social media offers new possibilities for engaging in civil disobedience.

“It is important to challenge the assumption that politics is the exclusive domain of politicians. It is really when ordinary people who voted against Harper take things into their own hands that we will hold him accountable.”

In the mean time, I intend to enjoy the Canadian Spring!
 
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