REVISED PHYSICAL FITNESS TESTING POLICIES , CANFORGEN 042/08 CMP 020/08

[medaid]

Awww, you just say that because of your stubby legs  :-*

It's genetics!!!  :'(

I bet you'd like it if it didn't have a shuttle run  ;D

You bet! Exempt in everything else!  :crybaby:

 

[George Wallace]

The Expres test was around before the current BFT came into being.

That is debatable.

The CF Expres Test first started in the Mid-1980's and consisted of the basic medical tests for heart rate and blood pressure, and then on to the Step Test, Push-ups and Sit-ups.  As it evolved the Grip test was added and the Step Test was replaced by the Beep Test. 

The BFT was being held in the late 1960's/early 1970's and consisted of a 2 X Ten Miler, a 100 m Fireman's Carry, the 6' Trench jump, the 6' Wall and a timed 440 (yd) run.  It too, has evolved over time to what it is today.

 

[danchapps]

The thing that bugs me about the express test is the shuttle run (I would prefer the 1.5 mile myself), and the way the PSP staff administers the push up portion. See, I have the long skinny arms, and next to no chest width, therefore, getting low enough to the ground for the PSP staff can be a challenge in itself for me as the hand position feels way too close. If they changed those I'd be happier, but I highly doubt that fantasy will ever come true.

 

[LCIS-Tech]

I completed the Basic Fitness Training Assistant (BFTA) Course in 2004. If anyone cares to know the particulars, imagine PT all day, every day, for about 2 weeks. It SUCKED!, but it was a damn good course, and recommend it to any JNCO or SNCO out there that wants to know the DEFINITIVE procedures for Physical Training and the CF Standards. as a NON PSP, BFTA qual soldier, I and other pers who were qualified were regularly called upon by RMC to assist in carrying out Express Testing for RMC Students.

The subject of "Fitness Standards" came up during one of the few "non-PT classroom lectures", and I can tell you that there is only ONE standard for the CF. As per the Fit Vol, the Battle Fitness Test in THE test for the CF....HOWEVER, the CF Express w/20MSR was adopted as an alternative as it was deemed capable of determining whether or not a person COULD successfully complete the BFT, for use in areas and by Units that were unable to carry out the BFT.

I am sure that there are people on this board that might disagree, but that is almost verbatim what the Instructors passed on to us, and if memory serves (which, at my age sometimes it doesn't), he even showed us the reference.

 

[I_am_John_Galt]

For those that don't like the Beep Test, it's not like the CF just dreamed it up!  It is used in a lot of sports as an indicator of fitness (VO2 max specifically).  According to wikipedia (yeah, I know http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beep_test ) it is also used by the British Army, RAF, RN (RM Officers require 11.0), and the Australian Defence Force.  The BBC reports that both Lance Armstrong and David Beckham maxed it out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/health_and_fitness/4286804.stm

More here: http://www.thebeeptest.com/beeptest1.html and the underlying research here: http://www.topendsports.com/testing/beep-references.htm

I expect it will be with us for at least a little while, as well it should.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Yeah, you're right George. I've heard of that old thing people called the 2x10 (not actually being old enough to have experienced it firsthand ..)
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the best thing about the 2x10 (and the BFT for that matter) is the smoke at the halfway point... :boring:

 

[Tow Tripod]

Does this mean we have to do even more of the cross fit fad?? One thousand squats, GO!!!! Give me a break!!!!

TOW TRIPOD