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This also happens to many NHL draft picks
The pass rate for BUDS might be 33% or maybe lower. Its been said this is an SOF organization, not a Boy Scout camp. Come to think of it some people in the military might not make in the Boy Scouts either....
There was another article shared on here that described a steadily decreasing pass rate, ascribed to increasingly more (excessively) demanding training practices.That's why its called BUD/S & it's a selection for an elite SOF organization, and not The Boy Scouts...
If you don't pass selection, you back to doing menial work. It is what it is, nothing remotely new here...
So is it actual abuse, or do we have a generation that is starting to get to the age where SOF is now an available option for them…and ‘damn those instructors can be mean!’
(I legitimately don’t know)
We all know that abuse can happen anywhere, but I’m thinking a course like BUD/S isn’t where it’s happening.
The instructors are extremely professional from what little I’ve seen.
But there is also medical staff present, senior officers who pop in to check the course serials, and a very well padded ‘complaint chain/process with confidentiality clauses, redresses, appeals, etc etc’ that could hang over a member’s head for a long time.
The US military as a whole has made it a priority for this stuff to be stomped out as publically as possible, especially with their current recruiting woes.
If a complaint is taken seriously, that SEAL could be subject to removal as an instructor, possibly non-deplorable while the investigation does it’s thing, etc - plus it just degrades someone’s reputation
I don’t know if a currently serving SEAL would want the claim to fame just because he got to make life extra difficult for an applicant undergoing BUD/S for 6 days…
But again, who knows At least their teamwork points should be checked off if other candidates had to carry the coursemate to the bell to ring it
The abuse claims are worrying, as is the mismanagement of talent: assuming "hypermotivated overachievers, often with college degrees, who have passed a battery of strength and intelligence tests," described in the article, it would seem there's better ways to employ them post-BUD/S.Just trying to break the pay wall...
15% pass rate is pretty much in line with other SOF units, like the SAS etc. The abuse claims are worrying though, if true:
They obviously make sure they can write.SEAL training is extremely physical as opposed to most other SOF selections that have physical, mental, emotional etc aspects.
One might question the validity of the extent that they go through to push candidates often past their breaking point physically, while often overlooking some other traits that probably would have candidates removed from training in other pipelines.