"Re-Royalization", "Re-Britification" and the Heritage Transformation

[torg003]

Except that CANSOF will raise a stink that it looks too close to theirs.

So why does Special Forces need a separate uniform, isn't a tan beret enough??
Hate to say this, but maybe the CAF should go back to a single uniform again (though not the green one, try a different colour).

 

[FSTO]

So why does Special Forces need a separate uniform, isn't a tan beret enough??
Hate to say this, but maybe the CAF should go back to a single uniform again (though not the green one, try a different colour).

Army pattern of course?

 

[torg003]

Well, probably. Maybe we should split the Army and Navy into separate entities with their own air corps. Let's face it we don't have enough air assets to justify a separate air force.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Well, probably. Maybe we should split the Army and Navy into separate entities with their own air corps. Let's face it we don't have enough air assets to justify a separate air force.

I would argue we'd be better off getting rid of the Army. We have no need for expeditionary land forces. We have no threat of physical invasion and anyone who could get here we couldn't stop. So lets strengthen our RCAF and RCN organizations and use them as our contributions to our international obligations.

 

[FSTO]

Well, probably. Maybe we should split the Army and Navy into separate entities with their own air corps. Let's face it we don't have enough air assets to justify a separate air force.

Hmm, you know originally back in the 60's when the unification debate was all the rage, there wasn't much of case to roll the whole thing into the RCN with a FAA and Marines (just like the RN, Spanish Navy, French Navy, etc etc) because of the Army and Air Force presence in Europe and that we were at 120,000 military pers (I think it was that amount).

But now that were down to less than 60K this makes more sense.


Waiting for the howls of rage from the green meanies!

 

[daftandbarmy]

I would argue we'd be better off getting rid of the Army. We have no need for expeditionary land forces. We have no threat of physical invasion and anyone who could get here we couldn't stop. So lets strengthen our RCAF and RCN organizations and use them as our contributions to our international obligations.

They tried that once, I believe, largely becasue the huge Army casualties of WW1 were so politically risky.

Then WW2 broke out....

 

[GK .Dundas]

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Well, probably. Maybe we should split the Army and Navy into separate entities with their own air corps. Let's face it we don't have enough air assets to justify a separate air force.

You can almost see mob in AF Blue drawing their torches and pitch forks. That and getting their firewood supply.
All while muttering back and forth between these of the need for an independent Airforce. Well that and the Bomber will always get through
" Afterall it's how we won the last war!" *


I used to work at and around a bar near the Airbase during the late 70's . I got to hear variants of the above from both ( then) current members and retired.

 

[Halifax Tar]

They tried that once, I believe, largely becasue the huge Army casualties of WW1 were so politically risky.

Then WW2 broke out....

Mmmmm nope, I don't think so. I don't think any of the services received much attention during the interwar period.

Besides if we really need knuckle draggers again you lads are quick to train. Point the rifle and walk towards the enemy. There, done.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Mmmmm nope, I don't think so. I don't think any of the services received much attention during the interwar period.

Besides if we really need knuckle draggers again you lads are quick to train. Point the rifle and walk towards the enemy. There, done.

Ahh the Russian leadership school of thought.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Mmmmm nope, I don't think so. I don't think any of the services received much attention during the interwar period.

Besides if we really need knuckle draggers again you lads are quick to train. Point the rifle and walk towards the enemy. There, done.

Kind of like nowadays then?

And we're seeing the Russians demonstrating what poor quality Infantry can do well: fill up refrigerated railway cars and force national conscription

 

[Halifax Tar]

Kind of like nowadays then?

And we're seeing the Russians demonstrating what poor quality Infantry can do well: fill up refrigerated railway cars and force national conscription

Once I am not in my current position I will say more about nowadays lol

If we don't have have an Army then we don't need infantry

See, you bring problems, I bring solutions

 

[dimsum]

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You can almost see mob in AF Blue drawing their torches and pitch forks. That and getting their firewood supply.
All while muttering back and forth between these of the need for an independent Airforce. Well that and the Bomber will always get through
" Afterall it's how we won the last war!" *


I used to work at and around a bar near the Airbase during the late 70's . I got to hear variants of the above from both ( then) current members and retired.

I’m sure the CA and RCN would love the extra competition due to the influx of the formerly Blue folks in their senior ranks selection.

However, the way I see the split is that TAC Hel goes to the Army, and everything else goes to the Navy. You can argue maybe short range tactical transports can be Army too, but we don’t really have any of them. Space becomes a Navy concern.

NORAD becomes, at least in the Canadian sense, an RCN mission.

 

[FSTO]

I’m sure the CA and RCN would love the extra competition due to the influx of the formerly Blue folks in their senior ranks selection.

Competition brings out the best I’ve heard.

 

[Ostrozac]

You can argue maybe short range tactical transports can be Army too, but we don’t really have any of them.

Unless you count the CC-295 Kingfisher as a light battlefield transport aircraft, because it doesn’t seem very suitable for Search and Rescue.

 

[McG]

So why does Special Forces need a separate uniform, isn't a tan beret enough??
Hate to say this, but maybe the CAF should go back to a single uniform again (though not the green one, try a different colour).

So, battleship grey or royal blue?

 

[daftandbarmy]

So, battleship grey or royal blue?

Well, if we want to be properly traditional....

 

[dimsum]

Well, if we want to be properly traditional....


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I can hear the sharpening of pitchforks in the RCN lines already.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I can hear the sharpening of pitchforks painting of rocks in the RCN lines already.

There, FTFY

 

[PuckChaser]

So why does Special Forces need a separate uniform, isn't a tan beret enough??
Hate to say this, but maybe the CAF should go back to a single uniform again (though not the green one, try a different colour).

Probably because we have DEU assigned by element, and they now have 3 trades that belong to SOF element not Air/Land/Sea?

 

[dimsum]

Probably because we have DEU assigned by element, and they now have 3 trades that belong to SOF element not Air/Land/Sea?

And to confuse things further, are RCAF DEU SOF folks allowed to wear the tan beret in DEU 1 now?

It used to be that they had to wear a tan backing on the wedge.