Questions about MP vs MPO

[DAA]

As noted above, there is no such thing as NCM SEP for the Military Police occupation (NCM).  You enter as a "semi-skilled" because you already possess the "CF recognized" 2 year progam.  Without it, you won't even be considered.  As far as MPO (Officer) is concerned, you can go the ROTP route or DEO, here are the current requirements:

MPO ROTP candidates will pursue a undergraduate degree in any of the following programs:

*  Criminology;
*  Justice Studies;
*  Criminal Justice;
*  Police Science;
*  Emergency/Crisis and Disaster Management;
*  Law;
*  Psychology;
*  Sociology; or
*  Baccalauréat en Sécurité Publique

To apply for DEO MPO, you would need to already have one of the degrees mentioned above.

 

[Muscles And Brains]

According to the website, there is an NCM SEP for Military Police. It's at John Abbott College, near Montreal, QC.

 

[DAA]

According to the website, there is an NCM SEP for Military Police. It's at John Abbott College, near Montreal, QC.

NCM SEP is an "Entry Plan" and is not available for enrolment into the MP (NCM) Occupation.  The only entry stream is "semi-skilled" and you must have the "approved and recognized" 2 year program to even be considered.

http://www.forces.ca/en/job/militarypolice-75#education-3

Some programs are "recognized" by the CF and some aren't.  So if you are planning on becoming an MP and will be taking a 2 year program, you are strongly advised to contact CF Recruiting to determine if the program which you are considering pursuing is in fact "recognized" by the CF.

Also, what website are you looking at that shows this specific Institution and NCM SEP???

NCM SEP Occupations --->  http://www.forces.ca/en/page/paideducation-96#paidcollege-2

 

[garb811]

According to the website, there is an NCM SEP for Military Police. It's at John Abbott College, near Montreal, QC.

I'd also be most interested in seeing your source for this.  I've checked the John Abbott site and it certainly isn't there either.

 

[Muscles And Brains]

I looked again, I must of misunderstood the video.

 

[m6]

According to forces.ca MPO is an "RMC Eligible" trade. With that in mind, exactly which Degree at RMC is ideal for MPO? The best I can see would be Military Psychology & Leadership, which seems less than ideal to me but still a decent option I suppose.

Forces.ca also states "In some instances, the Canadian Forces is able to pay for Officer Cadets to attend other Canadian universities in a relevant degree program."

To me, it seems that most Civy U's have substantially better Degree options for a potential MPO.

With all of that said, when applying for ROTP with MPO in mind, can you opt for a Civy U?

 

[Canadian.Trucker]

It's been approximately 11 years since I went through the ROTP process, but at the time I requested RMC and was given the CivU option.  Many factors come in to play such as bed spaces available at RMC etc. but I do believe you can request to go Civ U.  However, at the end of the day the powers that be will make the decision on your behalf.

 

[Shamrock]

Candidates will pursue a
undergraduate degree in any of the
following programs:
o Criminology;
o Justice Studies;
o Criminal Justice;
o Police Science;
o Emergency/Crisis and Disaster
Management;
o Law;
o Psychology;
o Sociology; or
o Baccalauréat en Sécurité Publique

 

[MP ashley ann]

As a very recent grad from RMC in the MPO trade, I graduated with Military Psychology and Leadership. I transferred to officer from NCM, applied to both Civi U and RMC. I had a college diploma in policing, was given 2 years of credit for Civi U in criminology, but was given the choice of RMC for psych and not Civi U when my application was approved. So, you never know

Good luck!

 

[Thinkingofenlisting]

I'm a student currently completing my Master's in Criminology and will be finished this fall. I have always had a love for the military and I'm looking at pursuing a career as an MPO.

I have a few questions about the job and was hoping I could get some answers and insights here.

1. In looking at the website I concluded that MPO's deal more with the administrative end of the job while MP's are engaged in more traditional police work, is this correct?

2. I also noticed there is a lot of opportunity for career development with specialty training and advanced training, and a lot of those categories are extremely interesting. I'm going to assume that MPO's would have first shot at some of that training? or at least would be strongly considered for it versus MP's.

3. Any information on the lifestyle, postings, career development in general would be appreciated.

4. If anyone has some more detailed information on some of the training involving: Drug Investigator, and Counter-Human Intelligence Specialist I would appreciate that also.

Thanks.

 

[garb811]

I'm a student currently completing my Master's in Criminology and will be finished this fall. I have always had a love for the military and I'm looking at pursuing a career as an MPO.

I have a few questions about the job and was hoping I could get some answers and insights here.

1. In looking at the website I concluded that MPO's deal more with the administrative end of the job while MP's are engaged in more traditional police work, is this correct?

Yes, although to be clear, MPO positions are almost entirely administrative, although every now and then a MPO will roll into a Guardhouse and decide his job is to be "out on patrol inspiring the troops and sharing the load".  That always ends poorly for the MPO.

2. I also noticed there is a lot of opportunity for career development with specialty training and advanced training, and a lot of those categories are extremely interesting. I'm going to assume that MPO's would have first shot at some of that training? or at least would be strongly considered for it versus MP's.

Nope, the vast majority of "extremely interesting" training is the domain of MP not MPO.  MPO do go on some interesting courses but that is because of a specific requirement (ie. they get the Invest course because they are going to be the OC of a CFNIS Det, not because they are going to be actively conducting investigations).

3. Any information on the lifestyle, postings, career development in general would be appreciated.

Lots of threads on that, have fun reading.  If you have specifics afterwards, ask away.

4. If anyone has some more detailed information on some of the training involving: Drug Investigator, and Counter-Human Intelligence Specialist I would appreciate that also.

As MPO you will not get a Drug Investigator course, ever.  MPO will get Counter-HumInt if posted to CFNCIU.

Thanks.

You're welcome.

 

[Thinkingofenlisting]

Thanks again I appreciate it.

 

[Diablo-8]

Hello everyone. I am new to the forums and would first start by saying that I am currently working towards becoming an MP in the 33rd Service Battalion in Ottawa, Ontario and be in the reserves during my application process to RMC (if possible).

So to the real reason I made this topic.

As I stated above, I plan on being a reservist for a couple years until  get into RMC. When the time comes I plan on being an officer and continuing to serve as an MP. Now, since by then I would have had 2 or 3 years of reservist training, will this make my application stand out when I join the Reg. Force, or will the previous training just be something that will looked past. I hope the question was too confusing and I look forward to hearing some good responses. Thanks.

 

[DAA]

Hello everyone. I am new to the forums and would first start by saying that I am currently working towards becoming an MP in the 33rd Service Battalion in Ottawa, Ontario and be in the reserves during my application process to RMC (if possible).
So to the real reason I made this topic.
As I stated above, I plan on being a reservist for a couple years until  get into RMC. When the time comes I plan on being an officer and continuing to serve as an MP. Now, since by then I would have had 2 or 3 years of reservist training, will this make my application stand out when I join the Reg. Force, or will the previous training just be something that will looked past. I hope the question was too confusing and I look forward to hearing some good responses. Thanks.

Why be a reservist as opposed to applying for ROTP now?

 

[George Wallace]

I would suggest you read many of the threads in this forum on Military Police and Military Police Officers.  Both have very different roles in the military.  One (the Military Policeman) does policing; while the other (the MPO) does administration (No policing).  Read the topics and learn the difference. 

There are MPs on the site that can answer in more detail any further questions you may have.

As DAA pointed out, there are other routes as well.

 

[The_Falcon]

I merged several similar threads with recent information (pruned some useless crap), and I will lock this down as plenty has been asked and answered in this forum, and I am sure in the recruiting area as well.  Diablo, spend some time READING all the information contained herein, and in the recruiting forums.  If you  (or anyone else) still have niggling questions after doing all that reading (here and on the official recruiting site), I advise you to PM your questions to the subject matter experts, or better yet go to a recruiting centre in person.

Hatchet Man
Milnet.ca Staff

 

[Diablo-8]

Removed The Question. This was a silly question for me to ask and it isn't anyone else's job to tell me where I should go in life but mine.

 

[The_Falcon]

We aren't your friends/family.  If you can't figure out your life path from the information that is out there, and you have to resort to asking totally anonymous strangers what you should do....then I suggest neither occupation is suitable for you. 

 

[Diablo-8]

We aren't your friends/family.  If you can't figure out your life path from the information that is out there, and you have to resort to asking totally anonymous strangers would you should do....then I suggest neither occupation is suitable for you.

Removed Response.

 

[Gooba97531]

I had a quick question myself, what do MP's say when arresting someone? I know they don't list the "Miranda's Rights" but I heard it went a little like this-

I am arresting you for [name of offence(s)].

You have the right to retain and instruct counsel without delay. You also have the right to free and immediate legal advice from duty counsel by making free telephone calls to [toll-free phone number(s)] during business hours and [toll-free phone number(s)] during non-business hours.

Do you understand?

Do you wish to call a lawyer?

You also have the right to apply for legal assistance through the provincial legal aid program.

Do you understand?

Is that correct?