kartik said:
I am an Indo Canadian, so non NATO country basically. I have had my application in process since last 18 months and I am been called by CSIS for a meeting in Edmonton. I am actively lobbying against the process of security clearance. We in Canada take pride in our system but basically the principle behind these systems are great, they are not implemented in a good way. All systems work independently and have no exchange of information. I guess we should take pride that our systems are not implemented to be efficient. I agree with security clearances but I do not agree with that when I have lived in this country for more than 5 years. Also Canadian Law states "Every individual is responsible for hisher own actions" Then why in first place the Forces do a background check my family. This is absolutely against the principle of individual justice. Secondly the immigration law allows anyone meeting requirements to enter Canada.
1- I don't see how this is against individual justice. I'm not even sure what individual justice is.
2- It is a matter of national security. Just because you worked in a country for 5 years does not mean you have no ill intentions.
You might be linked to someone who has a very shaddy background. Some people wish ill on the North American population. They [bad guys] are willing to lie low for a decade just to get a chance to hurt people. Not only that; hundreds of thousands of dollars will be spent on you for training purposes and other, depending on what path you take. It isn't something that should be taken lightly.
3- Anyone meeting requirements. Requirements might include an extensive background check.
kartik said:
There are minimal or almost no background check to be a permanent resident of Canada.
http://www.canadaimmigrationlaw.net/Immigration/FAQ/canada_immigration_frequently_asked_questions.htm said:
2.10 Will I be subject to background and other checks?
All adults will require a background check. Any related costs are the responsibility of the applicants. Background checks include criminal, security and medical checks.
Less official: http://www.immigration.ca/discussion2/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=17866
kartik said:
The process of security clearance indicates that a person can be a threat to civil society but he should not be a threat to Canadian forces. I guess we should not forget Col. Rusell Williams and spying case of navy. Whatever agruments I have got from the Forces does not appeal a logically thinking mind. But eventually we are so common that we have to take these kind of common nonsense. What I am trying to prove is implement a process fair so more immigrant Canadaians can avail jobs in the Forces. At the moment I feel like the Germans and the Japanese after 1945. The process should be not how criminal the person is but whether the person has criminal tendencies or whether person will react to situations criminally. It should be more psychological than physical to avoid even a single odd case of bad reputation.
Except seeing "how criminal the person is" is usually a good indication of criminal tendencies.
If my background check says I have killed people, or stolen; it would indicate that I am criminally inclined. Wouldn't you agree?
As a Canadian Forces member, you will be put in situations of high responsibility which will have severe moral implication. In some situations, you will be responsible for the well being of fellow soldiers; this can also include their lives.
Making sure you are mentally and physically capable to handle such situations is important. That being said, joining any military force is not a right, it's a privilege. Sort of like driving.
They make up the rules.
If you don't like it, don't join.
I was born in Montreal, Quebec but spent most of my life in Europe. I came back to Canada almost every summer, for the entire summer. I even lived there for a few years - when I was younger.
I still had to wait a year to be finally sworn in.
If you want in badly enough, you'll go through the same process as everyone else.
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