Pipelines
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daftandbarmy
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Basically what I think he's saying is that he desperately wants to be handcuffed immediately, and spend some time in jail, for inciting terrorist activity.
Colin Parkinson
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He wants pictures of himself getting handcuff and put into a van, but not of being released a couple of hours later with conditions to appear. He desperately wants to remain relevant.
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It's not criminal if it's what your religion demands... and you're a lunatic zealot.
While I doubt Suzuki is a true believer, he needs the zealots to finance his lifestyle.
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I thought solar farms were prohibited from being on anything better than class 4 farmland?
daftandbarmy
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Which speaks to our Infrastructure Hardening requirements.
We're focused right now on dealing with client change but should also take in account terrorism/ aggressive activism, of course:
Climate specialists say a major overhaul of infrastructure in communities across Canada is needed to make homes, buildings, roads and rail lines more resilient to extreme weather events, as climate change makes those events more likely.
"Infrastructure decisions in Canada are not accounting for a changing climate," said Ryan Ness, research director for adaptation at the Canadian Institute for Climate Choices.
We're focused right now on dealing with client change but should also take in account terrorism/ aggressive activism, of course:
Time to overhaul infrastructure
Climate specialists say a major overhaul of infrastructure in communities across Canada is needed to make homes, buildings, roads and rail lines more resilient to extreme weather events, as climate change makes those events more likely.
"Infrastructure decisions in Canada are not accounting for a changing climate," said Ryan Ness, research director for adaptation at the Canadian Institute for Climate Choices.
OldSolduer
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A few years ago - ten or more IIRC - he went on a cross Canada climate change tour - in a big giant diesel burning bus.
Oh and to top it off he demanded his personal security bodyguards be made up of attractive women. It was reported but no one said much about it.
Now if Harper had made that request.....
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Not a pipeline, but welcome to BC
www.campbellrivermirror.com
VIDEO: First Nations land dispute breaks out at open house for proposed fish farm site
The second engagement session was held in-person at the Port McNeil Community Hall
www.campbellrivermirror.com
daftandbarmy
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Not a pipeline, but welcome to BC
VIDEO: First Nations land dispute breaks out at open house for proposed fish farm site
The second engagement session was held in-person at the Port McNeil Community Hall
This is why I feel sorry for a few of my clients, who have to run these things
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FTFY
Let's see if he and/or his allies/supporters reject the idea of such activity ....
daftandbarmy
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He's apologized now, which makes everything OK right?
Statement and apology from Dr. David Suzuki
On Saturday, Nov. 20, during a media interview with CHEK News after a protest in Victoria, B.C., David Suzuki gave the following answer when asked what might happen if government leaders don’t urgently address the ever-worsening climate crisis:
“We’re in deep, deep doo doo. And the leading experts have been telling us for over 40 years. This is what we’ve come to. The next stage after this, there are going to be pipelines blown up if our leaders don’t pay attention to what’s going on.”
Dr. Suzuki’s comments were born out of many years of watching government inaction while the climate crisis continues to get worse. He has issued this apology:
“The remarks I made were poorly chosen and I should not have said them. Any suggestion that violence is inevitable is wrong and will not lead us to a desperately-needed solution to the climate crisis. My words were spoken out of extreme frustration and I apologize.
“We must find a way to stop the environmental damage we are doing to the planet and we must do so in a non-violent manner.”
The work of the David Suzuki Foundation is driven by dozens of experts from across Canada in the disciplines of science, policy, law, communications and public engagement. Since 1990, the Foundation has produced credible and reliable evidence-based environmental information, and worked with all levels of government (including Indigenous leadership), business and communities to resolve critical environmental issues.
Statement and apology from Dr. David Suzuki
On Saturday, Nov. 20, during a media interview with CHEK News after a protest in Victoria, B.C., David Suzuki gave the following answer when asked what might happen if government leaders don’t urgently address the ever-worsening climate crisis: “We’re in deep, deep doo doo. And the leading...
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I can't see that, there's always been a radical environmental fringe group that promoted property destruction. That fringe is bound to grow larger and more radical with time
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He's apologized now, which makes everything OK right?
Statement and apology from Dr. David Suzuki
The work of the David Suzuki Foundation is driven by dozens of experts from across Canada in the disciplines of science, policy, law, communications and public engagement. Since 1990, the Foundation has produced credible and reliable evidence-based environmental information, and worked with all levels of government (including Indigenous leadership), business and communities to resolve critical environmental issues.
Statement and apology from Dr. David Suzuki
On Saturday, Nov. 20, during a media interview with CHEK News after a protest in Victoria, B.C., David Suzuki gave the following answer when asked what might happen if government leaders don’t urgently address the ever-worsening climate crisis: “We’re in deep, deep doo doo. And the leading...
Sounds like a serious own goal. Must have upset his financial backers. The only thing he contributes is his reputation and if he goes "fringe" they lose the middle.
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Well, his lawyers can now say, "he's not the one who lit the fuse, Your Honour", right?
That right there.
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The Pipelines debate keeps resurfacing. It is tied to the Convoys, to the Ukraine, to Climate Change, to national revenues, to national defence, to Western alienation, to international stability.
In the Ukraine thread I said this:
I would like to applaud BC, something I generally don't find much occasion to do, for this latest announcement...
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Generally speaking Prairie first nations have been keen to take up oil and gas opportunities.
First Nations are not a major hurdle to western oil and gas, in my opinion. That is also a factor in why I think Churchill would be a good option.
It would put the Cree back in the international trade business after they lost their role in the fur trade.
In the Ukraine thread I said this:
I would like to applaud BC, something I generally don't find much occasion to do, for this latest announcement...
B.C. to announce energy deal with Indigenous groups after landmark agreement
Agreement with Blueberry River First Nations provides formal role in natural gas projects on its territory and includes $287.5-million in funding
www.theglobeandmail.com
Generally speaking Prairie first nations have been keen to take up oil and gas opportunities.
First Nations are not a major hurdle to western oil and gas, in my opinion. That is also a factor in why I think Churchill would be a good option.
It would put the Cree back in the international trade business after they lost their role in the fur trade.
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To be fair to the Blueberry Nation, they are more impacted by the actual extraction, than the pipelines. Much of their traditional territory is pockmarked by wellsites, small pipelines and access roads, stuff like this
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The issue for Blueberry First Nation (and West Moberly First Nation, and Doig River First Nations who I also worked with in that area) is that it goes beyond the actual roads/well sites/pipelines but also the amount of seismic exploration (which drastically can affect animal populations both good and bad) and cumulative effects.
Did some rough math on that image...I came up with 1342 hectares of area or 3313 acres if you prefer
12 hectares of seismic line and 30 km of length
12 hectares of roads and 11.6 km of length
13 hectares of pipelines and 12.5 km of length
12 well sites at 1 hectare each
1 compressor plant at 2 hectares
That's 3.7 % of the area disturbed
Plus one cutblock - 7 hectares
Up to 4.2 % of area disturbed.
And frankly that's just quick napkin math on sizing and might be out on a few things. Those road/pipeline/powerline corridors such as the main N/S access can be barriers for animal movement and with that much traffic moving around to each well site daily it puts pressure on animal breeding success.
Counter argument is that there are some, not many, very well paying jobs for the operators of those gas fields. Unfortunately that's about the only low barrier entry position available long term as support trades (instrumentation techs, electricians etc.) and/or management positions are often engineering graduates. Tough to stay connected to the culture if you're forced to move away, might be employed in another town, and are going to the anomaly in the workforce.
That being said there are lots of good, hard workers in all three communities I initially mentioned (and many more indigenous communities around as well) where hopefully the cash settlement can allow for the kickstart for those motivated individuals and bands to be able to take control of some the chaos around them and set themselves up for the future. Providing a means of good employment, with decent money, and a vision of hope and future makes all the difference for so many communities and thankfully hearing way more success stories in recent years.
Did some rough math on that image...I came up with 1342 hectares of area or 3313 acres if you prefer
12 hectares of seismic line and 30 km of length
12 hectares of roads and 11.6 km of length
13 hectares of pipelines and 12.5 km of length
12 well sites at 1 hectare each
1 compressor plant at 2 hectares
That's 3.7 % of the area disturbed
Plus one cutblock - 7 hectares
Up to 4.2 % of area disturbed.
And frankly that's just quick napkin math on sizing and might be out on a few things. Those road/pipeline/powerline corridors such as the main N/S access can be barriers for animal movement and with that much traffic moving around to each well site daily it puts pressure on animal breeding success.
Counter argument is that there are some, not many, very well paying jobs for the operators of those gas fields. Unfortunately that's about the only low barrier entry position available long term as support trades (instrumentation techs, electricians etc.) and/or management positions are often engineering graduates. Tough to stay connected to the culture if you're forced to move away, might be employed in another town, and are going to the anomaly in the workforce.
That being said there are lots of good, hard workers in all three communities I initially mentioned (and many more indigenous communities around as well) where hopefully the cash settlement can allow for the kickstart for those motivated individuals and bands to be able to take control of some the chaos around them and set themselves up for the future. Providing a means of good employment, with decent money, and a vision of hope and future makes all the difference for so many communities and thankfully hearing way more success stories in recent years.
