Pace Stick and Sword?

[wallysconce]

Is it generally acceptable for a CWO to carry a pace stick and sword at the same time on parade?

 

[WLSC]

In a short answer, yes.  For the infantry, for the other arms, I dont know for sure.  But RSM traditionally wear the ''officer dress'' so they carry the sword.  It's not supposed to be a pace stick, it's suppose to be a canne.

 

[dangerboy]

.  It's not supposed to be a pace stick, it's suppose to be a canne.

Might be a unit thing, but every RSM I have known has carried a pace stick.  The reason, so he can pace out the companies while on a BN parade.

 

[George Wallace]

Might be a unit thing, but every RSM I have known has carried a pace stick.  The reason, so he can pace out the companies while on a BN parade.

That may be true of Inf Bns, but not all RSMs are in Infantry Bns.

 

[Danjanou]

Is it generally acceptable for a CWO to carry a pace stick and sword at the same time on parade?

As noted yup. As a side note Day 1 of my MWO course was quite memorable when all of us WO's were required to march with both pace sticks and swords. Amusing to say the least.  8)

 

[the 48th regulator]

Is it generally acceptable for a CWO to carry a pace stick and sword at the same time on parade?

I am going against the rest and say No, it is not acceptable.  In fact, I advise that you inform the CWO as soon as possible, and in the most public place you can find.

This type of behaviour must be nipped in the bud, and making an example of him will send the message to others, as well, not to ever make the same mistake.

Good observation, BTW.

dileas

tess

 

[Rifleman62]

The sword is worn "hooked up" while carrying a Regimental cane or pace stick.

 

[medicineman]

I seem to recall when I was on parade for a Trooping of the Colour, the RSM, while escorting the Colour actually handed his pace stick off to his minion and drew his sword for the escort.  Upon completion, the sword went back into the scabbard and was carried hooked up, with the pace stick resuming it's normal spot.

MM

 

[PteCamp]

I am going against the rest and say No, it is not acceptable.  In fact, I advise that you inform the CWO as soon as possible, and in the most public place you can find.

This type of behaviour must be nipped in the bud, and making an example of him will send the message to others, as well, not to ever make the same mistake.

Good observation, BTW.

dileas

tess

Really? Was there any reason to be a jack ass like that? Honestly, someone asked a question cause they have probably never seen it happen before and just wanted an answer, no reason to be a jerk about it. I've been in the military a little while now, and I've never seen that happen, so theres a pretty good chance someone with even less time in hasn't seen it either, so there was really no reason for that response.

 

[Flap Jack]

Really? Was there any reason to be a jack *** like that? Honestly, someone asked a question cause they have probably never seen it happen before and just wanted an answer, no reason to be a jerk about it. I've been in the military a little while now, and I've never seen that happen, so theres a pretty good chance someone with even less time in hasn't seen it either, so there was really no reason for that response.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he was being sarcastic because I don't think anyone would be serious and advise you to jack up a RSM.

 

[jranrose]

Here is a good read for customs and traditions for the Auzzi army based on British customs including the Trooping of the Colour when the RSM draws his sword.

http://www.cadetnet.gov.au/aac/unitsites/70acu/Resourcearea/Documents/Cadet%20Instructor's%20Handbook%20-%20Customs%20and%20Traditions,%202006.pdf

 

[the 48th regulator]

Really? Was there any reason to be a jack ass like that? Honestly, someone asked a question cause they have probably never seen it happen before and just wanted an answer, no reason to be a jerk about it. I've been in the military a little while now, and I've never seen that happen, so theres a pretty good chance someone with even less time in hasn't seen it either, so there was really no reason for that response.

:rofl:

Yes, and your response was warranted.  Been in a while, but never have experienced the dark humour or Sarcasm.

Oh why am I even bothering to respond to you....

dileas

tess

 

[PteCamp]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he was being sarcastic because I don't think anyone would be serious and advise you to jack up a RSM.

I, in no way thought he was serious, and I'm sure the original poster did not either, but if not answering the question there was no reason to say anything at all. Just saying he didn't have to be a jerk about it.

 

[OldSolduer]

I, in no way thought he was serious, and I'm sure the original poster did not either, but if not answering the question there was no reason to say anything at all. Just saying he didn't have to be a jerk about it.

:facepalm:
Chill dude. He wasn't being a jerk. He has a sense of humor. Mine is similar.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I, in no way thought he was serious, and I'm sure the original poster did not either, but if not answering the question there was no reason to say anything at all. Just saying he didn't have to be a jerk about it.

Lighten up and have some fun.

Milnet.ca Staff

 

[Chanada]

Don't get the humour or the sarcasm...but Tess' answer actually was right...Truth is (and it is quite possible that in recent years the book has been revised but the tradition/the reality is that if you are on parade and "side-arms/weapons" are carried then that means MWO and below carry side arms (ie rifles and bayonets)...not canes or pacesticks and officers and CWOs carry swords.  In recent years it has become the custom for the RSMs to carry the stick with the sword hooked-up because it marks his appointment on parade and because he only draws it during the second movement of a Trooping anyway.  It may be in the book now but it is a relatively recent (ie past 20 years) tradition/custom.  CSMs and below however...should not be carrying theirs if the parade order calls for weapons to be carried.  Pro Patria 

 

[OldSolduer]

Regimental traditions will differ. What fits The RCR does not always translate into what the rest of the Army does.

:2c:

 

[PanaEng]

Lighten up and have some fun.

Milnet.ca Staff

That's actually what makes this board great: some ppl answer the question some others add colourful or humorous  comments.

cheers,

 

[wallysconce]

Does anyone have a picture of an RSM carrying both?

 

[ModlrMike]

What fits The RCR does not always translate into what the rest of the Army does.

That's a sentence that could fill volumes!