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muskrat89

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Are they measuring muzzle velocity? Blast? Smoke volume?

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/sgtstrykerusmc43/howitzer.jpg
 

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Combination Flash Suppressor and Silencer.......a little awkward to tote around, but I bet it works like a charm..... :2c:
 

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GAP said:
Combination Flash Suppressor and Silencer.......a little awkward to tote around, but I bet it works like a charm..... :2c:

Everyone knows its a BFA - Blank Firing Attachment.  How else does the auto loader work when you use the magazine option for large FFE?  ;)
 

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Looks like a giant.... Johnson!!!  Johnson what the hell are you staring at??

I'm not sure, but it looks like a great big...... Pecker!!! Wait, that's not a woodpecker.

It looks like someones... Privates!!!.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkdOAgQMQvA

... complete with two balls.
 

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uncle-midget-Oddball said:
Looks like a giant.... Johnson!!!  Johnson what the hell are you staring at??

I'm not sure, but it looks like a great big...... Pecker!!! Wait, that's not a woodpecker.

:rofl:
Well played.
 

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Why even bother to paint it in cam colours? Surely the "SEP" phenomenon would hide it well enough?
 

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Not a fake, a real photo of device for reducing blast overpressure, measuring it, and to keep locals happy too.
Taken at the German Army's Meppen Test facility, which is not unlike Canada's ammunition test facility METC at Valcartier (but they don't have a big be-jebus silencer)

http://www.relikte.com/meppen/index.htm

Another version of one in this newsletter from Rheinmetal (page 18)
http://www.kspg-ag.de/pdfdoc/newsline_3_2000.pdf
 

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Thanks petard - I figured you'd be the one to comr along and solve the riddle
 

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Petard said:
Not a fake, a real photo of device for reducing blast overpressure, measuring it, and to keep locals happy too.
Taken at the German Army's Meppen Test facility, which is not unlike Canada's ammunition test facility METC at Valcartier (but they don't have a big be-jebus silencer)

http://www.relikte.com/meppen/index.htm

Another version of one in this newsletter from Rheinmetal (page 18)
http://www.kspg-ag.de/pdfdoc/newsline_3_2000.pdf
Petard

Am I correct that we closed PETE Nicolet a number of years ago and moved its functions to Valcartier?

For a different application of blast, I visited PETE with the Master Gunners Course in January many, many years ago when a Bermuda High had cleared the skies, lowered the temperatures and raised the air pressure. There was an American M110 8-in SP on the firing point. It was fitted with a blade beneath the front of the barrel to induce yaw in the projectile to test the same in high density conditions. Hence the test at Nicolet in January. When the gun was fired, we could see the projectile "wiggle" along the trajectory and eventually begin to tumble, making an ungodly noise. It was a "holy frig" moment!
 

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Some of the work that was done in Nicolet by PETE has been contracted out to SNC.  Some of it is done by METC in Valcartier as part of QETE who actually fall under ADM(Mat), but are co-located with DRDC (V) (part of ADM(S&T).

It's a bit of a mess.
 

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SNC no longer exists, it was acquired by General Dynamics a few years ago.
http://www.gd-ots.com/sitepages/inthenews/press2006/06SNCAquisition.html

QETE is able to do testing (or collect data) just about anywhere. For example; they'll be doing a test of 81mm barrel fatigue limits, and a test of the C3 AVCON carriage in Gagetown, they've also assisted the Light Weight Towed Howitzer Project (the M777) where ever they might need it (Shilo, Petawawa, etc),
http://www.forces.gc.ca/aete/qualityengineeringtestestablishment-centredessaistechniquesdelaqualite-eng.asp

METC is also able to go offsite, but tend to do most of their work at Valcartier.
http://www.valcartier.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/ceem-metc/index-eng.asp

I don't think anyone is allowed to use PETE anymore (environmental reasons). Therefore such similar bizare tests, like the one old sweat was referring to, tend to be done by METC in Valcartier or in Gagetown by the institution that has lead on it.
 

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Right, GD-OTS not SNC.  I'm just happy I didn't say IVI.

Yes QETE is certainly expanding.  I remembering bored out of my skull the first time I visited in around 93 when the main attraction was the dies for all the cap badges.  From reading a recent on-line article it would appear they are trying to bring back a capability similar to (not the same as, heaven forbid) LETE.

Having METC being part of them rather than DRDC is in my mind a very good thing.  More focus on deliverables vice R&D and academic publishing.
 
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