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New replacements for HMCS Iroquois, HMCS Algonquin and HMCS Athabaskan?

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Oldgateboatdriver said:
Could be even worse: Thucydides could go through an Atlantic storm in one of our lovely MCDV's.
But the MCDV's are shallow  draft top heavy and I gather that one went through a hurricane on its way to Europe some years back and it was not pretty

Here's the storm
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Yeeeee Hawwwwwwww!  ;D

That second photo looks like a good 30-35 degrees of heel!
 

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Actually we dug into a wave, the stern came out of the water and the both shafts tripped from over speed. Then we took a 39 degree roll and stayed there for a good minute. The sweepdeck was under water, I thought we were goners. :skull: We had 16 meter waves that day.
 

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Can someone send me the DIN link with the updated documents?  I was on the site today and could not locate the drawings with the new spaces, the only one I could find is the one with the new ops layout.
 

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have some respect for the old girl its HMCS IROQUOIS not HMCS Iroqouis.
 

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Wow.  Awesome photo, but makes me glad that I am in the army.  I would not be able to function in such conditions: I'd be all green and vomity.
 

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Dolphin_Hunter said:
Can someone send me the DIN link with the updated documents?  I was on the site today and could not locate the drawings with the new spaces, the only one I could find is the one with the new ops layout.

I'll send you a link to the presentation tomorrow when I am at my computer.
 

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Stoker said:
Actually we dug into a wave, the stern came out of the water and the both shafts tripped from over speed. Then we took a 39 degree roll and stayed there for a good minute. The sweepdeck was under water, I thought we were goners. :skull: We had 16 meter waves that day.

Yeah, I never thought about that, but I guess with electric motors instead of GTs/PDE, gearbox and CRPP, the screws coming out of the water would be a problem!

I would not want to see 39 degrees of roll on any ship.  I had a few moments on the AthaB where the wind had us heeled over so bad I wasn't sure we were coming back up again, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't 39 degrees.
 

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Being a SONAR tech, and being concerned with Gyros and such, I've paid attention to such things as heavy rolls...

I've been down in the Aft Gyro compartment doing rounds and I observed 42.6 degrees of roll, in one direction, I think we came back to about 38 in the other. 

That was a long couple of days.  I don't often end up using the seat-belts in the bunks, that time I didn't even bother with the bunk....

 

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HFXCrow said:
have some respect for the old girl its HMCS IROQUOIS not HMCS Iroqouis.
According to the Canadian Naval Centennial website:

A Canadian warship is known in writing as H.M.C.S. Buckingham or HMCS Buckingham, even, the Buckingham (with her name in italics); but a ship’s name should never appear in quotation marks. The name when used for the designated class is not in italic and only the first letter is capitalized. In the Department of National Defence documents, names of ships are written entirely in upper case and are not italicized: HMCS HALIFAX.
Ref: The Canadian Style – A guide to writing and editing. Dundurn Press Limited, Toronto, 1997, p.107.
 

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That is most definitely the storm I had in mind, Stoker.

For a moment there I was wondering why everyone on the bridge was looking aft. I guess if you just tripped both shafts, that explains it.

I will only say this about these pictures: That, my friends, is why the AOPS will be larger than even the HALIFAX's.

I also note here that the premise in my question has now been vindicated: Even accounting for smaller AC spaces, if they are adding bunks in cabins and merging crew spaces to turn them back into larger mess decks, then the living standards are being set back a few decades.
 

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Oldgateboatdriver said:
BTW Pusser: The force ten storm you talk about, was it the 1980 storm where we lost a petty officer who fell from the infamous "fourth" bunk in the CPO's mess and bled to death before we could do anything about it? I remember that one because the GV was escorting a gaggle of reserve units tenders to Halifax (some Bozo thought bringing them there for the winter as training platforms was a good idea and compounded the gaffe by having them transit there during mid-October Hurricane season).  I was driving Captor (65 feet - 45 tons) and to this day I wonder at the fact that somehow we did not lose a single one of those little dinky toys in the storm.

No, that's a little (not much, but still a little) before my time.  As a young DMech though, I certainly heard about that incident.

Thanks for the info on how the IREs were stretched.  I did not know that.  I just know that their length in Jane's got longer.
 

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can a mod or the originator of this thread please spell IROQUOIS right.
 

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HFXCrow said:
can a mod or the originator of this thread please spell IROQUOIS right.
HMCS Iroquois is spelt correctly - it is HMCS Algonquin that is missing a "u" in her spelling.
 

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Thank you for fixing up the IRO and as Lex pointed out Algonquin (ALG) needs to go into spell check re-fit.

 

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Stoker 

  Wow amazing photos thanks for sharing them . Makes me really glad that I am a civy on dry land LOL I would not be able to handle a ride like that .
 

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We were piped down for about 5 days, the PA that we borrowed from a CPF didn't get out of his rack for at least 3 days. I had to check on him to make sure he wasn't dead ;D.
 
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