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Name This Photo!!! - The AFV Recognition Thread

Eye In The Sky

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Those look all look like models placed in 'field mock-up' setting.  Those were my favorite training aids, compared to slide shows (using actual picture slides in a carousel projector) of Warsaw AFV, SAMs, etc on parade behind the Iron Curtain.

I believe the standard back in those days was Lev III AFV/AC rec?  I used to know vehicles back then my a bumper and tail light combination, where now I'd be lucky to remember its name or country!  We could rhyme off what you could expect in the CRP, FSE etc etc in our sleep...now I have a hard time remembering what CRP stands for.  :nod:

Oldtimers is starting to take hold... :-\
 

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Eye In The Sky said:
. . .  models placed in 'field mock-up' setting.  Those were my favorite training aids, compared to slide shows (using actual picture slides in a carousel projector) of Warsaw AFV, SAMs, etc on parade behind the Iron Curtain.

Of course, it was almost mandatory to insert one or two non-AFV slides in the carousel (usually a naked woman - wouldn't get away with it today) in order to provide variety and keep the class' attention.  Don't expect me to do similar here since unlimited porn is only a mouse click away.  What sort of training aids do they use for AFV/AC recognition now?  Some app that soldiers are expected to download to their phones?
 

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Blackadder1916 said:
Of course, it was almost mandatory to insert one or two non-AFV slides in the carousel (usually a naked woman - wouldn't get away with it today) in order to provide variety and keep the class' attention.  Don't expect me to do similar here since unlimited porn is only a mouse click away.  What sort of training aids do they use for AFV/AC recognition now?  Some app that soldiers are expected to download to their phones?

Not sure about the Army folks anymore;  my experience in the air force is all power point training aids for the most part;  deployments and exercises there are various software and hardcopy products I've used.

Pic 1 - no sure; M113?  FV432?

Pic 2 - T 64

Pic 3 - Scimitar

Pic 4 - M109
 

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Eye In The Sky said:
Not sure about the Army folks anymore;  my experience in the air force is all power point training aids for the most part;  deployments and exercises there are various software and hardcopy products I've used.

Pic 1 - no sure; M113? FV432?

Pic 2 - T 64  X  or is maybe

Pic 3 - Scimitar

Pic 4 - M109 

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Your answer to pic 2 is close.

This is one that needs detail.


 

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Heh. Heh. I still have a company worth of those Roco M113s and a battery worth of the old M109s (and a pile of other stuff) which for some 40 years now I've been planning on using in a small military base on my model railroad. Unfortunately since my third last move, all my model railroad stuff is also squirreled away in boxes. Sigh. Spending way too much time  :blah: ing on computers.

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Blackadder1916 said:
Pic 2 - T 64  X  or is maybe %u2713

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Your answer to pic 2 is close.

This is one that needs detail.

Detail.  The model in the pic is more than likely a T-72; that's what the US Amy said it was.  My hedging of the identification is based on a few factors.  Because differentiating between the T-64 and the T-72 often came down to size of road wheels and number of return rollers (and of course the location of the IR searchlight), I went though the cards to get a similar oblique view of a T-64 so that a size by side comparison with the T-72 model could be made.  I thought it could be a good training moment.  Well, there were no T-64 cards in that training aid (and yes, all the cards were there).  It left me scratching my head in confusion.  Why would that vehicle be excluded?  Can't answer that question. It's not as if the USA were not aware of the T-64; they've well described it (and compared it to the T-72) in FMs and int products.

Looking through some of the other reference material that I collected over the years, I found a small Canadian pamphlet "Soviet Minor Tactics", that seems to put more emphasis on the T-64 as the main battle tank that we would most likely have encountered (back then in the 1980s) if bumping up against the GSFG.  It lists the T-64 as one of the "twelve silhouettes you must know" whereas includes the T-72 almost as an afterthought on the last page as an "other vehicle".

 

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Blackadder1916 said:
If anyone still interested, all front forward.
Roland SAM launcher
Not sure...ASU 85?
Wiesel?
Panhard armoured car of some sort.
 

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1) Roland on Marder chassis
2) PT-76
3) Tough one - Marder?
4) Saladin

:cheers:
 

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AmmoTech90 said:
Roland SAM launcher 
Not sure...ASU 85?    X
Wiesel?    X
Panhard armoured car of some sort.  X

You got #1.  This is the West German system with the Roland mounted on a Marder chassis.

FJAG said:
1) Roland on Marder chassis 
2) PT-76 
3) Tough one - Marder? 
4) Saladin 

:cheers:

And you got the rest.
 

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