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In the latest news, Liberals win in Labrador byelection. Reproduced under the  Fair Dealings section of the Copyright Act.

Liberals take Labrador, as Jones wins big over Penashue
Former Conservative cabinet minister defeated by Liberal
By Rob Antle, CBC News
Posted: May 13, 2013 7:33 PM NT
Last Updated: May 13, 2013 9:52 PM NT

Yvonne Jones, seen campaigning last month with federal Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau, has won the Labrador byelection, defeating Conservative Peter Penashue. Yvonne Jones, seen campaigning last month with federal Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau, has won the Labrador byelection, defeating Conservative Peter Penashue. (CBC)

Yvonne Jones recaptured what has traditionally been safe Liberal ground, rolling up a big victory over Conservative Peter Penashue in Labrador’s federal byelection.

With two-thirds of the polls reporting, Jones has built an unassailable lead of more than 1,500 votes.

The Liberal candidate’s share of the vote was 51 per cent, compared with 30 per cent for Penashue and 19 per cent for the NDP’s Harry Borlase.

The CBC Decision Desk called the election for Jones just over an hour after the polls closed.

Elections Canada reported lineups at some polling stations when they opened at 8 a.m., and turnout was steady throughout the day in Happy Valley-Goose Bay.

Monday’s Labrador byelection was complicated by a spring snowstorm that hit the north coast near Natuashish.

Elections Canada permitted the use of transfer certificates, allowing voters stranded by weather to cast their ballots at other polling stations.
National implications of vote

The Labrador byelection has been widely viewed as a crucial first test for new Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau. The Official Opposition New Democrats were also hoping for a strong showing.

And the stakes were high for the governing party. Since taking power in 2006, the ruling Conservatives had never lost a byelection in a seat they held prior to the vote.
Conservative cabinet minister Peter Penashue resigned his seat in the House of Commons in March to run again in a byelection.Conservative cabinet minister Peter Penashue resigned his seat in the House of Commons in March to run again in a byelection. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Penashue quit as MP in March after repaying $30,000 in compensation for “ineligible contributions” he accepted during the 2011 election. He immediately announced he would run in the ensuing byelection.

The Liberal candidate, Yvonne Jones, represented the coastal Labrador district of Cartwright-L’Anse au Clair in the provincial legislature for 17 years before stepping down to run federally. She also served as provincial Liberal leader before a successful treatment for cancer.

The New Democrats are pinning their hopes on Harry Borlase, an analyst with the cold-ocean research organization C-CORE.
Longtime Liberal riding

Labrador has traditionally been a Liberal stronghold.

Penashue — a prominent Innu leader — wrested the riding away for the Conservatives in 2011, eking out a 79-vote win. He garnered less than 40 per cent of the ballots cast, and was helped by a stronger than expected NDP showing that siphoned off Liberal support.

Up until that surprise victory two years ago, the region had only once gone Conservative blue since Newfoundland and Labrador joined Canada in 1949.

From 1968 to 1972, Ambrose Peddle represented Labrador in Ottawa, as part of a near Tory sweep of federal seats in the province.

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This of course will give the Young Dauphin's standings a big boost; many Hallelujahs to follow.
 
Jim Seggie said:
It has, however in this day and age I have my doubts.

People want solutions to problems within an hour, just like on TV. Celebrity rules: Common sense, reason and logic run second to a charismatic, photogenic candidate whose head may be as empty as an old beer can.

I wouldn't say that.  Christy Clark won in BC with nothing more than a mega-watt smile, lies about the state of the provincial economy and fear-mongering of the NDP.  Now she will try to get Trudeau elected PM with the same formula.
 
Lying about the provincial economy and fear mongering about what the opposition will do if elected seemed to work for the Liberals in Ont too.

 
RangerRay said:
I wouldn't say that.  Christy Clark won in BC with nothing more than a mega-watt smile, lies about the state of the provincial economy and fear-mongering of the NDP.  Now she will try to get Trudeau elected PM with the same formula.

The things the Liberals said about the NDP wasn't just fear-mongering. Some the NDP election promises would have been disastrous for B.C. if they had won the election. The reality is that the NDP were, in some cases, their own worse enemy.
 
Retired AF Guy said:
The things the Liberals said about the NDP wasn't just fear-mongering. Some the NDP election promises would have been disastrous for B.C. if they had won the election. The reality is that the NDP were, in some cases, their own worse enemy.

Absolutely.  Especially after their Morgan-Kinder flip-flop.  However before that, all the Libs had on the NDP was their record from 20 years ago, a back-dated memo from the late '90s, and an unpaid transit fare.  Compared to the last 12 years of debt and cronyism, and the most incompetent person to ever occupy the Premier's Office, all the NDP had to do was veer to the centre and hammer the BC Liberal record.  Instead, they tried to out green the Greens and barely mentioned the Libs' abysmal record in office.

My point was that there is little to no difference between Trudeau and Clark in terms of charisma vs. policy, except who their opponents are.  They are both photo/telegenic charismatic bobble-heads with platitudes, not policies.
 
RangerRay said:
My point was that there is little to no difference between Trudeau and Clark in terms of charisma vs. policy, except who their opponents are.  They are both photo/telegenic charismatic bobble-heads with platitudes, not policies.

Trudeau reminds me of the wisdom in Voltaire's observation: "To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered." It easily applies to all superficial qualities.
 
>a back-dated memo from the late '90s

Misdeeds by politicians fall into four categories:
1) Human weakness (eg. drinking, drug use, adultery, traffic violations, etc)
2) Personal gain (eg. accepting bribes, padding expenses)
3) Gain for others (relatives, peers, party members, etc)
4) Subverting the "system" - institutions, processes, mechanisms of accountability - to retain power

Those are in order of seriousness (corrosive effect on trust in the "system" and the people who run it).  A document falsified to evade responsibility and accountability is an extremely grave ethical lapse.  What sort of collective mind-fart the NDP experienced in order to allow Dix to become leader I don't know, but they did.
 
They should have elected John Horgan or Mike Farnworth.  Both would have moved the party to the centre and hammered the BC Liberals' record.  But we're getting off topic.  :)
 
Yes, but to bring it back: one thing Trudeau has is a clean sheet.  Naive isn't anywhere near the ballpark of corrupt.

The only real problem with Trudeau being the figurehead of the party is the custom of making the figurehead PM when the party wins.  If we had a long tradition of the MPs selecting their own first-among-equals, coupled with a long tradition of it rarely being any party's leader, there would be much less fuss at hand.
 
I notice that Calgary Mayor Naheed Nenshi seems to have taken a much higher profile in the news lately (and not just because of the Calgary floods). Even canada.com’s online editor Patrick O’Rourke is promoting him via Twitter (and not in a neutral fashion).

It occurs to me that two things are in play here:

1. Naheed Nenshi is starting to expand his profile in order to move beyond civic politics, and;

2. Smart people in the LPC might be having buyers remorse over their recent leadership convention and are scouting out potential high profile people to prepare for post 2015.

From what public pronouncements I have been able to find from the Mayor, it does seem like this is a good political match.
 
Brad Sallows said:
Yes, but to bring it back: one thing Trudeau has is a clean sheet.  Naive isn't anywhere near the ballpark of corrupt.

To quote a detergent ad, Trudeau's clean sheets are a little dingy...http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/21/justin-trudeau-using-a-psychological-trick

Taking money from trade union's as a "private speaker" and then arguing against bills that would force unions to be more transparent with their books, yeah...that ain't unethical or daresay corrupt at all.  To bad there isn't a similar way to take an MP to court over conflict of interest ala Ford.
 
Well, isn't Calgary going to have an election soon?  That may just be it.

People seem to be indicating that he is more inclined towards provincial rather than Federal.

But...if he (Nenshi) was being approached by the LPC I doubt it's buyer's remorse and more of a case of trying to get a star candidate to break into Alberta.  It would be a coup for the Liberal's under Trudeau to get ANY seats in Alberta and would likely get a senior critic position or a ministerial one should that become the case.

But I guess we'll see shortly.
 
He could just as easily step into the Conservative camp. There's several AB seats going to open for the next election
 
ModlrMike said:
He could just as easily step into the Conservative camp. There's several AB seats going to open for the next election

And no doubt he's likely being courted by all sides.
 
Remember Claire Hoy? He is a fairly well known author/biographer/ghost writer and he was a pretty well known political columnist until he faded from view many years ago. Well, he's still there, at least part time, writing for (amongst others) the Orangeville Citizen. Here, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the Orangeville Citizen are his thoughts - which are pretty well organized - on the popularity of M. Trudeau:

http://www.citizen.on.ca/news/2013-06-27/Columns/National_Affairs.html
Trudeau’s popularity may soon fade

CLAIRE HOY

2013-06-27

Now that the clowns have put away their props and the Ottawa circus as moved off to the rest of the country for the summer, we learn once again how silly public opinion polls really are.

The latest, alas, purports to show that newlyminted Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau is considerably more popular than either Prime Minister Stephen Harper or NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair.

Of course he is. The question is: so what?

But the media loves polls. To be sure, it’s pretty easy journalism. You don’t have to actually do much journalistic snooping to write the story. All you do is hire a pollster to phone a bunch of people – the vast majority of whom, by the way, don’t talk to the pollsters – and presto, you’ve got a “story.”

The latest “story,” according to a Canadian Press Harris-Decima telephone survey of “just over 1,000 respondents” – which means they had to call several thousand people in order to get 1,000 to respond (a reality that distorts all polls more and more as people give up land lines and immigration means more Canadians who speak neither French nor English) tells us that 56 per cent had a “favorable impression” of Trudeau, compared to 39 for Harper and 37 for Mulcair. Of course they do. They don’t really know much about him other than his name. He’s still basking in the generally glowing press he got during his recent leadership bid.

Unlike both Harper and Mulcair, who’ve been in the thick of many issues for a long time now, Trudeau hasn’t really done enough yet to be judged. That’s not a knock on him. It’s just reality.

It’s pretty well a given that the longer politicians are around the more people they’re bound to tick off, particularly when there is no election on the line.

So just because people claim to like the brash new suitor on the block, doesn’t mean they’re about to rush out and buy a Liberal membership.

It doesn’t really mean much at all, which raises the question again about why the media spends so much time and resources running these stupid polls to begin with.

Give him time and Trudeau will get involved in major issues and many Canadians will not like his approach. Many will. Many won’t. That’s the way it works. While Harper and Mulcair spent the last couple of years duking it out on Parliament Hill, Trudeau has been riding above all that and flitting about the country flashing his nice teeth.

Mind you, perhaps people will eventually get past the superficial attractiveness and pay a little more attention to what a greedy person the millionaire Liberal leader has been. Not to mention the fact that he’s been telling flat-out lies about his speaking engagements.

You will know, of course, that Trudeau has made a small fortune over the past few years being paid to speak at various functions, many of them charities to which he charged huge fees just to offer a few pearls of wisdom, often not drawing a big enough crowd to cover his fee let alone raise money for the charity in question.

After much ado about this, Trudeau – who claimed that he had the advance approval from Mary Dawson, the Parliamentary ethics commissioner ( a bit of a stretch, since he never ran a single speech past the commissioner in fact) – has reluctantly repaid some of the 10s of thousands of dollars he was paid.

He has also said – and again, this is a lie – that he never gave any paid speeches in his capacity as an MP. The reason this is important is because the public, quite rightly, expects not to have to pay to hear their elected representatives speak on the issues of the day. We already pay them a handsome salary for being a politician.

No need – or desire – to pony up even more.

Turns out that our popular Liberal leader did speak as a Liberal representative at a March, 2010 conference organized by the Ontario Public Service Employees Union. He was joined there by Conservative Gary Goodyear, the Minister of State for Science and Technology, and by NDP MP Perry Nash, who was then NDP president.

The only difference between Trudeau and his two fellow politicians is that he was paid $20,000 for his speech, while Goodyear and Nash didn’t get paid.

His office – and Dawson – say he wasn’t presented to the conference as an MP, but OPSEU hired him through his speaking agent. Really? Why do you think they hired him? Why did the program feature “key federal politicians,” if Trudeau supposedly appeared, what, as a private citizen? Oh please.

Is this really the ethical standard people want in a leader? Let’s hope not.


His first question, "so what?" should be familiar to every officer and NCO who has ever made an appreciation or estimate of the situation. It is, always and everywhere, a good question.

Mr Hoy doesn't find much meat upon which to chew. In truth, M. Trudeau hasn't said all that much, has he? That's probably good 21st century politics: run on charisma, ignore policy.

Mr. Hoy does chew on M. Trudeau's ethics and he asks a final question: "Is this really the ethical standard people want in a leader?" He answers it, too, and I agree with him.
 
The Young Dauphin is a gift that just keeps on giving:

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/07/20130713-161854.html

Trudeau uncritical of Suzuki's controversial comments
Updated
9:58 am, July 14th, 2013
4:18 pm, July 13th, 2013

OTTAWA - Just because David Suzuki claims Canada is "full" and shouldn't accept any more immigrants doesn't mean Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau is ready to criticize him.

Instead, Trudeau says the environmentalist and CBC host may have a point.

"There is a way to reconcile concern, legitimate concerns about environmental sustainability, and Canada's continued openness and strength around immigration," Trudeau said Saturday in Toronto when asked about Suzuki's comments.

He made the remarks at a festival put on by Canadians of Filipino background, one of the largest immigrant communities in the country.

In an interview with French news magazine l'Express earlier this month, Suzuki linked immigration with "reduced liveable space" in Canada.

"Our immigration policy is disgusting. We plunder countries in the south by depriving them of their future executives and we want to increase our population to support the growth of our economy," Suzuki said. "It's crazy!"

Immigration Minister Jason Kenney has condemned Suzuki's comments as "toxic and irresponsible."

While Trudeau gave Suzuki's comments a pass, he didn't spare Kenney and the Conservatives for slamming the green guru.

"I think this is a great example of how this government is choosing to pick fights whenever it possibly can," Trudeau said. "Canadians deserve better than that."

At the same event on Saturday, Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver refused to back down from Tory criticism of Suzuki.

"We're a country of immigrants, and to suggest we're full is not only a misunderstanding," he said. "Frankly, it's morally shocking."

--with files from Beatrice Vaisman
 
Hatchet Man said:
To quote a detergent ad, Trudeau's clean sheets are a little dingy...http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/21/justin-trudeau-using-a-psychological-trick

Taking money from trade union's as a "private speaker" and then arguing against bills that would force unions to be more transparent with their books, yeah...that ain't unethical or daresay corrupt at all.  To bad there isn't a similar way to take an MP to court over conflict of interest ala Ford.

I'm glad someone else noticed that, and other, sinister handshakes. One scientifically illiterate Trudeau was enough thanks.
 
The gift that keeps on giving again.....

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/07/20130716-152043.html

Trudeau under fire for attending controversial Islamic group's event
3:20 pm, July 16th, 2013

OTTAWA — The Muslim Canadian Congress criticized Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau Tuesday for his association with what it calls "Canada's leading Islamist group."

Last Friday Trudeau was the guest at an Islamic Society of North America event. The organization and its Canadian branch endorse polygamy and support Sharia law in Canada.

"We are deeply disappointed that Justin Trudeau continues to appease known Islamist organizations that not only have a tainted record in the U.S. but who are known proponents of Sharia law in Canada," MCC president Mumtaz Khan said.

Last year, Trudeau caused a stir by delivering the keynote speech at the Reviving the Islamic Spirit conference, which listed another controversial group, IRFAN Canada, as a sponsor until days before the conference.

Newly appointed Immigration Minister Chris Alexander didn't want to criticize Trudeau, but said he was invited to speak at the same event and declined.

B'nai Brith president Frank Dimant has requested a meeting with Trudeau to discuss concerns with the group, as well as Trudeau's vision for Canada.
 
Thucydides said:
The gift that keeps on giving again.....

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/07/20130716-152043.html

Pot, This is Kettle, Black, Over

Speaking points for the Hon. Jason Kenney, P.C., M.P. Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism on the occasion of a breakfast meeting hosted by the Islamic Society of North America
Mississauga, Ontario, November 29, 2008


link to text here http://web.archive.org/web/20120804181322/http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/speeches/2008/2008-11-29.asp

BTW this headline from Huffington Post  "Jason Kenney's Speech To Islamic Group ISNA Erased From Government Sites "

Link here http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/07/18/jason-kenney-isna-trudeau_n_3618659.html

A computer glitch I'm sure umf, umf, umf hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Haven't heard Fox News North Sock Puppet Ezra Levant  howling about Kenney

I never said it was a perfect world

 
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