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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Canada says it will look at increasing its defence spending and tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever growing sanctions list.

By Tonda MacCharles
Ottawa Bureau
Mon., March 7, 2022

Riga, LATVIA—On the 13th day of the brutal Russian bid to claim Ukraine as its own, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing up at the Latvian battle group led by Canadian soldiers, waving the Maple Leaf and a vague hint at more money for the military.

Canada has been waving the NATO flag for nearly seven years in Latvia as a bulwark against Russia’s further incursions in Eastern Europe.

Canada stepped up to lead one of NATO’s four battle groups in 2015 — part of the defensive alliance’s display of strength and solidarity with weaker member states after Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Trudeau arrived in the Latvian capital late Monday after meetings in the U.K. with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

Earlier Monday, faced with a seemingly unstoppable war in Ukraine, Trudeau said he will look at increasing Canada’s defence spending. Given world events, he said there are “certainly reflections to have.”

And Canada tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever-growing sanctions list.

The latest round of sanctions includes names Trudeau said were identified by jailed Russian opposition leader and Putin nemesis Alexei Navalny.

However, on a day when Trudeau cited the new sanctions, and Johnson touted new measures meant to expose Russian property owners in his country, Rutte admitted sanctions are not working.

Yet they all called for more concerted international efforts over the long haul, including more economic measures and more humanitarian aid, with Johnson and Rutte divided over how quickly countries need to get off Russian oil and gas.

The 10 latest names on Canada’s target list do not include Roman Abramovich — a Russian billionaire Navalny has been flagging to Canada since at least 2017. Canada appears to have sanctioned about 20 of the 35 names on Navalny’s list.

The Conservative opposition says the Liberal government is not yet exerting maximum pressure on Putin, and should do more to bolster Canadian Forces, including by finally approving the purchase of fighter jets.

Foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said in an interview that Ottawa must still sanction “additional oligarchs close to President Putin who have significant assets in Canada.”

Abramovich owns more than a quarter of the public shares in steelmaking giant Evraz, which has operations in Alberta and Saskatchewan and has supplied most of the steel for the government-owned Trans Mountain pipeline project.

Evraz’s board of directors also includes two more Russians the U.S. government identified as “oligarchs” in 2019 — Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov — and its Canadian operations have received significant support from the federal government.

That includes at least $27 million in emergency wage subsidies during the pandemic, as well as $7 million through a fund meant to help heavy-polluters reduce emissions that cause climate change, according to the company’s most recent annual report.

In addition to upping defence spending, the Conservatives want NORAD’s early warning system upgraded, naval shipbuilding ramped up and Arctic security bolstered.

In London, Johnson sat down with Trudeau and Rutte at the Northolt airbase. Their morning meetings had a rushed feel, with Johnson starting to usher press out before Trudeau spoke. His office said later that the British PM couldn’t squeeze the full meeting in at 10 Downing Street because Johnson’s “diary” was so busy that day. The three leaders held an afternoon news conference at 10 Downing.

But before that Trudeau met with the Queen, saying she was “insightful” and they had a “useful, for me anyway, conversation about global affairs.”

Trudeau meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday in Latvia.

The prime minister will also meet with three Baltic leaders, the prime ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, in the Latvian capital of Riga.

The Liberals announced they would increase the 500 Canadian Forces in Latvia by another 460 troops. The Canadians are leading a multinational battle group, one of four that are part of NATO’s deployments in the region.

Another 3,400 Canadians could be deployed to the region in the months to come, on standby for NATO orders.

But Canada’s shipments of lethal aid to Ukraine were slow to come in the view of the Conservatives, and the Ukrainian Canadian community.

And suddenly Western allies are eyeing each other’s defence commitments.

At the Downing Street news conference, Rutte noted the Netherlands will increase its defence budget to close to two per cent of GDP. Germany has led the G7, and doubled its defence budget in the face of Putin’s invasion and threats. Johnson said the U.K. defence spending is about 2.4 per cent and declined to comment on Canada’s defence spending which is 1.4 per cent of GDP.

But Johnson didn’t hold back.

“What we can’t do, post the invasion of Ukraine is assume that we go back to a kind of status quo ante, a kind of new normalization in the way that we did after the … seizure of Crimea and the Donbas area,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to recognize that things have changed and that we need a new focus on security and I think that that is kind of increasingly understood by everybody.”

Trudeau stood by his British and Dutch counterparts and pledged Canada would do more.

He defended his government’s record, saying Ottawa is gradually increasing spending over the next decade by 70 per cent. Then Trudeau admitted more might be necessary.

“We also recognize that context is changing rapidly around the world and we need to make sure that women and men have certainty and our forces have all the equipment necessary to be able to stand strongly as we always have. As members of NATO. We will continue to look at what more we can do.”

The three leaders — Johnson, a conservative and Trudeau and Rutte, progressive liberals — in a joint statement said they “will continue to impose severe costs on Russia.”

Arriving for the news conference from Windsor Castle, Trudeau had to detour to enter Downing Street as loud so-called Freedom Convoy protesters bellowed from outside the gate. They carried signs marked “Tuck Frudeau” and “Free Tamara” (Lich).

Protester Jeff Wyatt who said he has no Canadian ties told the Star he came to stand up for Lich and others who were leading a “peaceful protest” worldwide against government “lies” about COVID-19 and what he called Trudeau’s “tyranny.”

Elsewhere in London, outside the Russian embassy, other protesters and passersby reflected on what they said was real tyranny — the Russian attack on Ukraine. “I think we should be as tough as possible to get this stopped, as tough as possible,” said protester Clive Martinez.
 
Aw, so cute.... the new kid is already getting into the NATO tradition of Canada shaming ;)

NATO's 2 per cent military spending benchmark is 'self-evident': Finnish president​


The president of NATO's newest member nation said the military alliance's two per cent defence spending target seems "self-evident" to him — even as a debate rages over the fact that most NATO members, Canada included, are not meeting the target.

In an interview airing Sunday on Rosemary Barton Live, Finnish President Sauli Niinistö said the Nordic country is committed to its current level of defence spending — around two per cent of GDP. NATO members pledged in 2006 to spend two per cent of their national GDP on defence.

"I think that it's self-evident ... To me, as a Finn, we usually do what we agree [to do]," Niinistö told host Rosemary Barton.

"It's an agreement. To follow it is self-evident."

 
Well, since whenever Finland comes up with a new social or environmental program, it immediately follows that the Progressives in Canada begin chattering on CBC about how “in Finland, they do X, so we should too..”, this should now be a no-brainer for Canada.
 
Well, since whenever Finland comes up with a new social or environmental program, it immediately follows that the Progressives in Canada begin chattering on CBC about how “in Finland, they do X, so we should too..”, this should now be a no-brainer for Canada.
One would think…but then one would be forgetting the pick-n-chose nature of Canada’s lauding Scandinavians values.

I foresee Canada getting up to go to the bathroom during the next round of ‘2% is the right number’ discussions.
 
One would think…but then one would be forgetting the pick-n-chose nature of Canada’s lauding Scandinavians values.

I foresee Canada getting up to go to the bathroom during the next round of ‘2% is the right number’ discussions.
will they be even allowed in the same room
 
will they be even allowed in the same room
Canada needs some time sitting outside in the hallway while the serious countries discuss issues of principle. The sad part is that PMO would spin our time banished *in the hallway as some sort of principled, leadership move to offer an alternative to an interest-driven West…
 
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Well, since whenever Finland comes up with a new social or environmental program, it immediately follows that the Progressives in Canada begin chattering on CBC about how “in Finland, they do X, so we should too..”, this should now be a no-brainer for Canada.
I have noticed that Canadians love to admire Europeans "In Europe they do this, in Germany they do that". My response "If you like Europe so much go live there. Foresake your entitlements IE OAS and CCP and go live in Europe"
 
I have noticed that Canadians love to admire Europeans "In Europe they do this, in Germany they do that". My response "If you like Europe so much go live there. Foresake your entitlements IE OAS and CCP and go live in Europe"
We need Canadian solutions for Canadian problems.
 
Canada needs some time sitting outside in the hallway while the serious countries discuss issues of principle. The sad part is that PMO would spin our time banished *in the hallway as some sort of principled, leadership move to offer an alternative to an interest-driven West…
He'd be playing Paddycakes while showing his sock
 
Aw, so cute.... the new kid is already getting into the NATO tradition of Canada shaming ;)

NATO's 2 per cent military spending benchmark is 'self-evident': Finnish president​


The president of NATO's newest member nation said the military alliance's two per cent defence spending target seems "self-evident" to him — even as a debate rages over the fact that most NATO members, Canada included, are not meeting the target.

In an interview airing Sunday on Rosemary Barton Live, Finnish President Sauli Niinistö said the Nordic country is committed to its current level of defence spending — around two per cent of GDP. NATO members pledged in 2006 to spend two per cent of their national GDP on defence.

"I think that it's self-evident ... To me, as a Finn, we usually do what we agree [to do]," Niinistö told host Rosemary Barton.

"It's an agreement. To follow it is self-evident."

nothing in NATO politics is self evident. and the closer to Ivan you are, the more motivated you are to spend at or above 2.
 
I have noticed that Canadians love to admire Europeans "In Europe they do this, in Germany they do that". My response "If you like Europe so much go live there. Foresake your entitlements IE OAS and CCP and go live in Europe"
CPP and OAS are payable to expats.
 
nothing in NATO politics is self evident. and the closer to Ivan you are, the more motivated you are to spend at or above 2.
not really, Germany was a total mess, worse than Canada, until the Ukraine came along and they found out the cupboard was stripped bare.
 
I have noticed that Canadians love to admire Europeans "In Europe they do this, in Germany they do that". My response "If you like Europe so much go live there. Foresake your entitlements IE OAS and CCP and go live in Europe"
I did. worked there for a decade. Some things are better, some things are worse. The only truly redeeming feature was that nowhere in the 5 countries that I became more than acquainted with did I ever encounter a politician as truly rotten as Trudeau.
 
My guess: some voices, Liberal-friendly voices, including e.g. Hillary Clinton, have been whispering in Justin Trudeau's ear that he is putting Canada and himself on the wrong side of history in the 2020s and his 2015 priorities are no longer in fashion. "Yes, yes," the voices are whispering, "climate is the challenge of a lifetime, but it's not the only challenge. Russia and China matter, too, and they matter a lot right now. The climate will change even more if we get sucked into nuclear war. Canada doesn't look like a serious country anymore; everyone blames you. You need to start doing things to fix it."
 
Well this is interesting…


The Canadian government is seeking to join the non-nuclear component of AUKUS, a security pact between Australia, Britain and the United States that was struck to counter China’s rising military might in the Indo-Pacific region, according to two government sources.
Canada was conspicuously absent when AUKUS was first announced in September, 2021. The three member countries are among this country’s closest allies, and like Canada they are members of the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing partnership. National-security experts feared Canada, a laggard on defence spending, was being excluded from a new “Three Eyes” group.
Canada’s reason for wanting to join now is not to acquire nuclear-powered submarines, like Australia, but rather to participate in the second pillar of the AUKUS agreement, the two sources, both senior government officials, said. This non-nuclear part of AUKUS provides for information-sharing and close co-operation on accelerating development of cutting-edge technologies, including undersea defence capabilities, artificial intelligence, quantum technology and hypersonic warfare.
The Globe and Mail is not naming the officials, because they are not authorized to speak publicly on security matters.


The AUKUS partnership was initially framed as an effort to deepen diplomatic, security and defence co-operation in the Indo-Pacific region. Under it, the United States is sharing nuclear-propulsion technology with Australia, as it has with Britain for more than half a century. New submarines will be built for the British and Australians using a combination of British submarine design and U.S. technology.
After the pact was announced, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau played down Canada’s exclusion. “This is a deal for nuclear submarines, which Canada is not currently or any time soon in the market for,” he told reporters.
China, which has an estimated 12 nuclear-powered submarines, has condemned AUKUS as a threat to peace in the Indo-Pacific.
One of the sources said the information-sharing aspect of the second pillar of AUKUS is significant. It has the potential to create a closer circle of sharing among three members of Five Eyes but not the other two, they said.


The source said there is continuing work by the Department of Global Affairs and the Privy Council Office to sign up Canada for AUKUS.
The second source said Canada is waiting to see how the existing three AUKUS members frame the terms of Canada’s possible participation. The official noted that the Communications Security Establishment, Canada’s eavesdropping and surveillance agency, already shares intelligence with its Five Eyes allies, and could expand this work.
The Five Eyes alliance, which consists of the U.S., Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, dates back 75 years. Members share signals intelligence gleaned from intercepted communications, as well as military intelligence and intelligence gathered directly from human sources.
Stephanie Carvin, an associate professor of international relations at Carleton University and a former national-security analyst, has been working with Thomas Juneau, an associate professor in the Graduate School of Public and International Affairs at the University of Ottawa, on a paper about the future of Canada’s relations with AUKUS. She said that if the nuclear submarine deal between Australia, the United States and Britain was “AUKUS 1.0,” then the expanding technological co-operation represents what she calls “AUKUS 2.0.”


Prof. Carvin said it would make sense for Canada to join AUKUS 2.0. “We haven’t had a robust military presence in the Pacific since the 1950s. But that being said, China has an interest in the Arctic. It’s sending icebreakers and ships and buoys. So it does make sense for Canada as an Arctic nation, especially if we’re looking at new naval technologies that will be important to defence.”
There are different opinions in the Canadian security and defence community as to whether Canada needs to join AUKUS. Skeptics say it’s primarily a deal for Australia to acquire nuclear propulsion technology and that it won’t curb any intelligence sharing or co-operation among Five Eyes partners.
But Prof. Carvin said there is worry in the security and defence community that the trilateral pact could one day supplant the existing intelligence order. “I think the concern is that this is the start of a trend that could eventually impact Five Eyes,” she said.
She said the question for Canada and its allies is what benefits Canada might bring to AUKUS.
“It was very clear to me that Canada has always been welcome to join, but we have to bring something to the table,” Prof. Carvin said. “Canada is very good at certain kinds of Arctic technologies and mapping and artificial intelligence.”
In March, New Zealand’s government said it is discussing joining the non-nuclear part of the AUKUS arrangement, according to a report in The Guardian.
“We have been offered the opportunity to talk about whether we could or wish to participate in that pillar-two aspect of it,” Andrew Little, New Zealand’s defence minister, said in March. “I’ve indicated we will be willing to explore it.”
 
I have noticed that Canadians love to admire Europeans "In Europe they do this, in Germany they do that". My response "If you like Europe so much go live there. Foresake your entitlements IE OAS and CCP and go live in Europe"

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Well this is interesting…

I've said before that Canada should try to get in to AUKUS whether or not we go for nuclear submarines or not, but as the posted article states:
It was very clear to me that Canada has always been welcome to join, but we have to bring something to the table,
The highlighted portion is where I see the problem. What do we really have to bring to the table? Probably the main thing that the other members might be interested in is our fairly well developed UUV industry.
 
Hey, Justin, polls show a majority of Canadians now want 2% GDP spending on defence. Maybe you should check it out with your colleagues Boris and Xi to see if they recommend it...after all, that’s the Canadian way of doing things.

 
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