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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Canada says it will look at increasing its defence spending and tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever growing sanctions list.

By Tonda MacCharles
Ottawa Bureau
Mon., March 7, 2022

Riga, LATVIA—On the 13th day of the brutal Russian bid to claim Ukraine as its own, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing up at the Latvian battle group led by Canadian soldiers, waving the Maple Leaf and a vague hint at more money for the military.

Canada has been waving the NATO flag for nearly seven years in Latvia as a bulwark against Russia’s further incursions in Eastern Europe.

Canada stepped up to lead one of NATO’s four battle groups in 2015 — part of the defensive alliance’s display of strength and solidarity with weaker member states after Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Trudeau arrived in the Latvian capital late Monday after meetings in the U.K. with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

Earlier Monday, faced with a seemingly unstoppable war in Ukraine, Trudeau said he will look at increasing Canada’s defence spending. Given world events, he said there are “certainly reflections to have.”

And Canada tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever-growing sanctions list.

The latest round of sanctions includes names Trudeau said were identified by jailed Russian opposition leader and Putin nemesis Alexei Navalny.

However, on a day when Trudeau cited the new sanctions, and Johnson touted new measures meant to expose Russian property owners in his country, Rutte admitted sanctions are not working.

Yet they all called for more concerted international efforts over the long haul, including more economic measures and more humanitarian aid, with Johnson and Rutte divided over how quickly countries need to get off Russian oil and gas.

The 10 latest names on Canada’s target list do not include Roman Abramovich — a Russian billionaire Navalny has been flagging to Canada since at least 2017. Canada appears to have sanctioned about 20 of the 35 names on Navalny’s list.

The Conservative opposition says the Liberal government is not yet exerting maximum pressure on Putin, and should do more to bolster Canadian Forces, including by finally approving the purchase of fighter jets.

Foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said in an interview that Ottawa must still sanction “additional oligarchs close to President Putin who have significant assets in Canada.”

Abramovich owns more than a quarter of the public shares in steelmaking giant Evraz, which has operations in Alberta and Saskatchewan and has supplied most of the steel for the government-owned Trans Mountain pipeline project.

Evraz’s board of directors also includes two more Russians the U.S. government identified as “oligarchs” in 2019 — Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov — and its Canadian operations have received significant support from the federal government.

That includes at least $27 million in emergency wage subsidies during the pandemic, as well as $7 million through a fund meant to help heavy-polluters reduce emissions that cause climate change, according to the company’s most recent annual report.

In addition to upping defence spending, the Conservatives want NORAD’s early warning system upgraded, naval shipbuilding ramped up and Arctic security bolstered.

In London, Johnson sat down with Trudeau and Rutte at the Northolt airbase. Their morning meetings had a rushed feel, with Johnson starting to usher press out before Trudeau spoke. His office said later that the British PM couldn’t squeeze the full meeting in at 10 Downing Street because Johnson’s “diary” was so busy that day. The three leaders held an afternoon news conference at 10 Downing.

But before that Trudeau met with the Queen, saying she was “insightful” and they had a “useful, for me anyway, conversation about global affairs.”

Trudeau meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday in Latvia.

The prime minister will also meet with three Baltic leaders, the prime ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, in the Latvian capital of Riga.

The Liberals announced they would increase the 500 Canadian Forces in Latvia by another 460 troops. The Canadians are leading a multinational battle group, one of four that are part of NATO’s deployments in the region.

Another 3,400 Canadians could be deployed to the region in the months to come, on standby for NATO orders.

But Canada’s shipments of lethal aid to Ukraine were slow to come in the view of the Conservatives, and the Ukrainian Canadian community.

And suddenly Western allies are eyeing each other’s defence commitments.

At the Downing Street news conference, Rutte noted the Netherlands will increase its defence budget to close to two per cent of GDP. Germany has led the G7, and doubled its defence budget in the face of Putin’s invasion and threats. Johnson said the U.K. defence spending is about 2.4 per cent and declined to comment on Canada’s defence spending which is 1.4 per cent of GDP.

But Johnson didn’t hold back.

“What we can’t do, post the invasion of Ukraine is assume that we go back to a kind of status quo ante, a kind of new normalization in the way that we did after the … seizure of Crimea and the Donbas area,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to recognize that things have changed and that we need a new focus on security and I think that that is kind of increasingly understood by everybody.”

Trudeau stood by his British and Dutch counterparts and pledged Canada would do more.

He defended his government’s record, saying Ottawa is gradually increasing spending over the next decade by 70 per cent. Then Trudeau admitted more might be necessary.

“We also recognize that context is changing rapidly around the world and we need to make sure that women and men have certainty and our forces have all the equipment necessary to be able to stand strongly as we always have. As members of NATO. We will continue to look at what more we can do.”

The three leaders — Johnson, a conservative and Trudeau and Rutte, progressive liberals — in a joint statement said they “will continue to impose severe costs on Russia.”

Arriving for the news conference from Windsor Castle, Trudeau had to detour to enter Downing Street as loud so-called Freedom Convoy protesters bellowed from outside the gate. They carried signs marked “Tuck Frudeau” and “Free Tamara” (Lich).

Protester Jeff Wyatt who said he has no Canadian ties told the Star he came to stand up for Lich and others who were leading a “peaceful protest” worldwide against government “lies” about COVID-19 and what he called Trudeau’s “tyranny.”

Elsewhere in London, outside the Russian embassy, other protesters and passersby reflected on what they said was real tyranny — the Russian attack on Ukraine. “I think we should be as tough as possible to get this stopped, as tough as possible,” said protester Clive Martinez.
 
So how do we get to this magical realm where Canadian laws around procurement, TBS policies, Cabinet direction, international treaty obligations (CITT) etc etc all don't apply and we can just 'go buy shit'. Even in Afghanistan a lot of big procurements still followed basic rules, and a lot of that equipment was a one time use until breakage.

Nothing personal, but pretty tired of people who have no idea of what's involve just say 'do better'. Sure, the current system sucks, but unless the PM, PMO and Cabinet basically burn the current system to the ground and do a complete, GoC wide reform we have to work within it. People working within that system are doing a lot of work to try and jump through all the bullshit and catch a lot of flak about the results, but you can't expect someone to put in Olympic qualifying times if you weight them down, tie their limbs together, and maybe shoot them a few times for good measure. And that's without even having political interference with big ticket items (like the F35).

There is also a lot of downsides to having a mix and match fleet, one off items, and corners cut in procurements to not provide basics like training, spares or repair lines, especially on ships where it has to be integrated into a few millions parts moving in the same general direction.
I really do understand how do you fell, really. Nothing personnel also, the process is not good for us. Surely it's good for someone but not for us. Why then we are the only country (most probably) that re-did 3 competitions for the same result for a fighter and 10 years for a pistol? Even the RCMP is faster. I think they have the same boss.

It's simple, there is no political will to solve the issue. Look at the big ticket items we got during Afghanistan. Today, the process drive the show and we cant buy nothing. Why are we slower than our partner? How many time we had to got back to redo the work for the CFC?

In all those treaties, I dont think there is a stop for something like ''National Security''. We just dont do it. Except the RG's (which overall did the job) which one of those emergency buy caused us trouble after wards? I dont see one. I'm pretty confident that our GOFO are brilliant enough to do that again IOT bring us back in a somewhat positive view in our partner eyes. Where there's will, there's a mean.
 
So how do we get to this magical realm where Canadian laws around procurement, TBS policies, Cabinet direction, international treaty obligations (CITT) etc etc all don't apply and we can just 'go buy shit'. Even in Afghanistan a lot of big procurements still followed basic rules, and a lot of that equipment was a one time use until breakage.

Nothing personal, but pretty tired of people who have no idea of what's involve just say 'do better'. Sure, the current system sucks, but unless the PM, PMO and Cabinet basically burn the current system to the ground and do a complete, GoC wide reform we have to work within it. People working within that system are doing a lot of work to try and jump through all the bullshit and catch a lot of flak about the results, but you can't expect someone to put in Olympic qualifying times if you weight them down, tie their limbs together, and maybe shoot them a few times for good measure. And that's without even having political interference with big ticket items (like the F35).

There is also a lot of downsides to having a mix and match fleet, one off items, and corners cut in procurements to not provide basics like training, spares or repair lines, especially on ships where it has to be integrated into a few millions parts moving in the same general direction.

What rules is Ukraine following? I know their circumstances are different than ours. But that is the point surely. We have created this situation. We have it in our power to change the situation. And still follow international rules.
 
Well well well, now we know where the exact 6.1$ billion over 5yrs for the CAF is coming from.

Ottawa’s tax on banks and life insurers to deliver $6.1-billion over five years,​

 
"Hi, we're the GoC and we're passing along some money to you (DND) that we got from pinching the employees and shareholders of banks and insurance companies. Hopefully they'll be angry at us and not at you."
 
"Hi, we're the GoC and we're passing along some money to you (DND) that we got from pinching the employees and shareholders of banks and insurance companies. Hopefully they'll be angry at us and not at you."
Indeed. Already, the experts as gaslighting are setting up a false dichotomy.

Of course we know that taxes come into general revenue and expenditures come from the totality of the Main and Supplemental Estimates, so there is of course no such thing as the bank/insurance tax going to fund DND, but not beyond the Government to sow the seeds of discontent from one against another…
 
Indeed. Already, the experts as gaslighting are setting up a false dichotomy.

Of course we know that taxes come into general revenue and expenditures come from the totality of the Main and Supplemental Estimates, so there is of course no such thing as the bank/insurance tax going to fund DND, but not beyond the Government to sow the seeds of discontent from one against another…
Now if they can only get the Bank's project management teams set up at DND..... says I tongue in cheek :p
 
"Hi, we're the GoC and we're passing along some money to you (DND) that we got from pinching the employees and shareholders of banks and insurance companies. Hopefully they'll be angry at us and not at you."
"Hi, we're the GoC and we're passing along some money to you (DND) that we got from pinching the employees and shareholders of banks and insurance companies. Hopefully they'll be angry at us and not at you."

Those shareholders would be just about every flippin' pension plan in Canada.
 
"Hi, we're the GoC and we're passing along some money to you (DND) that we got from pinching the employees and shareholders of banks and insurance companies. Hopefully they'll be angry at us and not at you."

Those shareholders would be just about every flippin' pension plan in Canada.
Correct and now I am in receipt of CPP and CFSA - plus RRSPs etc this is robbery.

WHILE I am on the soapbox hit WalMart, Amazon, Pfizer, Loblaws etc and have them pay their fair share too. All these industries/businesses made obscene profits during the pandemic. Add more if you choose to.

The ones that aren't making out so good are small businesses.
 
Those shareholders would be just about every flippin' pension plan in Canada.

You're singing my song. To a corporation, taxes are just numbers on the liability side, along with wages and benefits, dividends, and other costs of whatever it is they do. More of one squeezes the others. Retarding wage/benefit and/or retirement savings growth isn't any kind of public good.
 
"Hi, we're the GoC and we're passing along some money to you (DND) that we got from pinching the employees and shareholders of banks and insurance companies. Hopefully they'll be angry at us and not at you."

Those shareholders would be just about every flippin' pension plan in Canada.
I don't believe this current Cabinet has a single member that has spent anytime working on Bay Street (or Montreal finance) in any manner whatsoever. It would be interesting to see if this is the first time in Canadian history that this has occurred.

To me, it does clearly state the direction/thought process of this current government.
 
obscene profits

What part of profits are obscene? The part paid out in wage/benefit gains? Dividends? Reinvestment to increase productive output? Paying down debt that paid for past investment? Setting money aside for future contingencies?
 
What part of profits are obscene? The part paid out in wage/benefit gains? Dividends? Reinvestment to increase productive output? Paying down debt that paid for past investment? Setting money aside for future contingencies?
When XXX Corporation announces that they X billions in profits yet their employees are treated like dog crap. That is obscene.

I have no issue with making money - but some of this needs to be looked at,
 
Deja vu. (I've written what follows, before.) Unless someone can point to some ill use of "profits", there's no criticism such as "too much was paid into (say) dividends (in many cases, retirement savings) and not enough into increased compensation".
 
The government has also put in a strategic program review. Looking for $1B in 24/25, $2B in 25/26, and $3B recurring after that. (Budget chapter 9).

Not all from DND, (obviously), but it's good news that there is an intent to reduce spending.
 
That's why it's pointless even talking about this. From what I can see, there is no need to even rewrite SSE because this new funding we are receiving is simply status quo.
Global Affairs first needs to articulates a national WoG strategy and decide where our areas of interest lie and how we’ll defend those interests. Only then can a military strategy can be devised. Anything else is really just guess work.
 
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