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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Canada says it will look at increasing its defence spending and tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever growing sanctions list.

By Tonda MacCharles
Ottawa Bureau
Mon., March 7, 2022

Riga, LATVIA—On the 13th day of the brutal Russian bid to claim Ukraine as its own, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing up at the Latvian battle group led by Canadian soldiers, waving the Maple Leaf and a vague hint at more money for the military.

Canada has been waving the NATO flag for nearly seven years in Latvia as a bulwark against Russia’s further incursions in Eastern Europe.

Canada stepped up to lead one of NATO’s four battle groups in 2015 — part of the defensive alliance’s display of strength and solidarity with weaker member states after Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Trudeau arrived in the Latvian capital late Monday after meetings in the U.K. with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

Earlier Monday, faced with a seemingly unstoppable war in Ukraine, Trudeau said he will look at increasing Canada’s defence spending. Given world events, he said there are “certainly reflections to have.”

And Canada tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever-growing sanctions list.

The latest round of sanctions includes names Trudeau said were identified by jailed Russian opposition leader and Putin nemesis Alexei Navalny.

However, on a day when Trudeau cited the new sanctions, and Johnson touted new measures meant to expose Russian property owners in his country, Rutte admitted sanctions are not working.

Yet they all called for more concerted international efforts over the long haul, including more economic measures and more humanitarian aid, with Johnson and Rutte divided over how quickly countries need to get off Russian oil and gas.

The 10 latest names on Canada’s target list do not include Roman Abramovich — a Russian billionaire Navalny has been flagging to Canada since at least 2017. Canada appears to have sanctioned about 20 of the 35 names on Navalny’s list.

The Conservative opposition says the Liberal government is not yet exerting maximum pressure on Putin, and should do more to bolster Canadian Forces, including by finally approving the purchase of fighter jets.

Foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said in an interview that Ottawa must still sanction “additional oligarchs close to President Putin who have significant assets in Canada.”

Abramovich owns more than a quarter of the public shares in steelmaking giant Evraz, which has operations in Alberta and Saskatchewan and has supplied most of the steel for the government-owned Trans Mountain pipeline project.

Evraz’s board of directors also includes two more Russians the U.S. government identified as “oligarchs” in 2019 — Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov — and its Canadian operations have received significant support from the federal government.

That includes at least $27 million in emergency wage subsidies during the pandemic, as well as $7 million through a fund meant to help heavy-polluters reduce emissions that cause climate change, according to the company’s most recent annual report.

In addition to upping defence spending, the Conservatives want NORAD’s early warning system upgraded, naval shipbuilding ramped up and Arctic security bolstered.

In London, Johnson sat down with Trudeau and Rutte at the Northolt airbase. Their morning meetings had a rushed feel, with Johnson starting to usher press out before Trudeau spoke. His office said later that the British PM couldn’t squeeze the full meeting in at 10 Downing Street because Johnson’s “diary” was so busy that day. The three leaders held an afternoon news conference at 10 Downing.

But before that Trudeau met with the Queen, saying she was “insightful” and they had a “useful, for me anyway, conversation about global affairs.”

Trudeau meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday in Latvia.

The prime minister will also meet with three Baltic leaders, the prime ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, in the Latvian capital of Riga.

The Liberals announced they would increase the 500 Canadian Forces in Latvia by another 460 troops. The Canadians are leading a multinational battle group, one of four that are part of NATO’s deployments in the region.

Another 3,400 Canadians could be deployed to the region in the months to come, on standby for NATO orders.

But Canada’s shipments of lethal aid to Ukraine were slow to come in the view of the Conservatives, and the Ukrainian Canadian community.

And suddenly Western allies are eyeing each other’s defence commitments.

At the Downing Street news conference, Rutte noted the Netherlands will increase its defence budget to close to two per cent of GDP. Germany has led the G7, and doubled its defence budget in the face of Putin’s invasion and threats. Johnson said the U.K. defence spending is about 2.4 per cent and declined to comment on Canada’s defence spending which is 1.4 per cent of GDP.

But Johnson didn’t hold back.

“What we can’t do, post the invasion of Ukraine is assume that we go back to a kind of status quo ante, a kind of new normalization in the way that we did after the … seizure of Crimea and the Donbas area,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to recognize that things have changed and that we need a new focus on security and I think that that is kind of increasingly understood by everybody.”

Trudeau stood by his British and Dutch counterparts and pledged Canada would do more.

He defended his government’s record, saying Ottawa is gradually increasing spending over the next decade by 70 per cent. Then Trudeau admitted more might be necessary.

“We also recognize that context is changing rapidly around the world and we need to make sure that women and men have certainty and our forces have all the equipment necessary to be able to stand strongly as we always have. As members of NATO. We will continue to look at what more we can do.”

The three leaders — Johnson, a conservative and Trudeau and Rutte, progressive liberals — in a joint statement said they “will continue to impose severe costs on Russia.”

Arriving for the news conference from Windsor Castle, Trudeau had to detour to enter Downing Street as loud so-called Freedom Convoy protesters bellowed from outside the gate. They carried signs marked “Tuck Frudeau” and “Free Tamara” (Lich).

Protester Jeff Wyatt who said he has no Canadian ties told the Star he came to stand up for Lich and others who were leading a “peaceful protest” worldwide against government “lies” about COVID-19 and what he called Trudeau’s “tyranny.”

Elsewhere in London, outside the Russian embassy, other protesters and passersby reflected on what they said was real tyranny — the Russian attack on Ukraine. “I think we should be as tough as possible to get this stopped, as tough as possible,” said protester Clive Martinez.
 
Well....

I've never found an anti-CAF civilian amongst the 'elite' out this way. OTOH, they are very interested and grateful for our military members, based on what I've seen so far.

I've even bumped into a few bejillionaires with family members in the CAF, like JTF 2, RCAF, RCN and th'Army. Some even send their kids back to their countries of origin to do their national military service, like they did themselves, as a condition of citizenship/ the right to vote.

Now, does the CAF actually ever network with these people to build on this obvious strength of feeling?

No, not at all based on what I've seen. And every effort that I made, whilst serving, to try and do that has fallen upon deaf ears largely because IMHO: 'Stinkin' Civvies, what do they know?' type attitudes.

I mean, it's always easier to invite senior military folks like yourself to cocktail parties and dinners in an echo chamber fashion as it's less ego-threatening, and it might even be good for your (marginal) CAF career ;)
I have zero doubt that there are lots of individuals that you've met who feel that way, but I also have some life experience and have encountered exactly what I described. Lots of people are very polite and make the right mouth noises... If wealthy people's kids serving in the CAF was normal, you wouldn't need to point out that you know of a few examples. We'd all know a few, because they'd be everywhere.

If the people of influence in Canada cared about the CAF, the CAF wouldn't be chronically underfunded and under supported. As ERC has pointed out many times, support for the CAF is a mile wide, and an inch deep.

I'm not sure where the personal attack comes from, but I've always been a proponent of more CAF engagement with Canadians. We should be more active in communities outside just the ones local to the bases.

I'll bow out now, as clearly those of us who are merely "marginal" should be neither seen nor heard. ;)
 
Is anyone surprised?

Let's be completely honest with ourselves, people like Trudeau* look down on the military as a service, as well as people that tend to make up the membership of the military. Though they are smart enough to not say it out loud, they view us as the people too dumb to do anything else. Why waste money on defence when it can be spent enhancing the arts, or solving world hunger?

*I don't mean LPC, I mean the entire "upper" crust of Canada regardless of which colour they vote. It's not limited to just the Laurentians, or Bay St, it's the wealthy and university educated from coast to coast.
I’m not surprised at all that Trudeau never planned to increase spending levels. What does surprise me is that he has admitted it rather than his usual “kicking the can down the road“ routine. Mind you, NATO knows he’s a bum. The problem is, the people of Canada are still too kind in their assessments of him and what his government has done…or should I say, hasn’t done. Now that he’s shown his true colours, I hope the electorate finally votes him and his like-minded cronies out of office forever. While I don’t want to see the LPC destroyed I do think they need to be severely trounced, much like Kathleen Wynne’s liberals was on the receiving end of the voters’ anger.
 
Trudeau (plus the others) increasing the defence budget one cent will not get them one more vote. Period

Then add in all the other crap they take for truth about the world, the military and the future and that brings us to this point.

Trudeau Sr hated the military. You don't think his son thinks the way? But the hypocrite calls on the them the minute he has a problem with the FLQ. I'm sure Justin was not happy when he asked for the army to clear Ottawa of truckers and they said we can't.
 
"I continue to say, and will always say, that Canada is a reliable partner to NATO, [a] reliable partner around the world," Trudeau told reporters while entering the daily question period.

Isn't that just an admission of dishonesty and total disregard for the truth?
 
Trudeau (plus the others) increasing the defence budget one cent will not get them one more vote. Period
I think that hits the nail on the head.

Neither @daftandbarmy nor @Furniture are wrong. There are people at all strata of society that support the military and that do not think about it or dismiss it as a waste of effort.

What really runs the equation is priorities for spending. How much can you squeeze out of the electorate in the way of taxes and fees before alienating it and which project will generate the most votes for the party in question? Our geographic isolation makes security a far off risk that can be safely ignored while we spend on more direct benefits. Re-election, however, come on quickly and are a risk each time.

At the same time I take a look at the thread talking about civil service growth rising by 31%. That creates a great pool of full-time workers who compete for resources available. Any department which can boast x dollars will deliver y votes will get priority for funding and hence growth. Defence can't do that; especially with the screwed up procurement system except in tiny, discrete markets.

Defence itself is not a good example for the public. It is resource heavy and output poor and has siphoned off massive funds for the bloated and convoluted bureaucracy, which grows at the same rate as the civil service albeit in a more stealthy way.

I expect it will take the first Russian or Chinese drilling operation starting up in "our" Arctic before there is a wake-up call … and even then, I'm doubtful about how we'll respond, if at all.

I keep saying, defence needs to be credible in order to be an effective deterrent.

It's really too bad when the prime objective of any given political party is to gain or remain in power rather than to provide for the security of its nation's way of life. I despise the elder Trudeau but at least I can say he was generally bright, had a vision (several in fact) for the country , and had crises to deal with that took some talent to deal with. His son ain't that bright, has no visions, and is unable to deal with real crises (other than his scandals) Unfortunately he is gifted with an electorate that votes in its sleep and by opponents who are entirely incapable of galvanizing the nation to rise against him. We are our worst enemy.

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"I continue to say, and will always say, that Canada is a reliable partner to NATO, [a] reliable partner around the world," Trudeau told reporters while entering the daily question period.

Isn't that just an admission of dishonesty and total disregard for the truth?
You and I might call it "lieing".....

BTW are JT's eyes brown? Asking for a friend....
 
"I continue to say, and will always say, that Canada is a reliable partner to NATO, [a] reliable partner around the world," Trudeau told reporters while entering the daily question period.

Isn't that just an admission of dishonesty and total disregard for the truth?

In his defence he honestly believes that.

He thinks our Convening and giving Canada'sstamp of approval on international undertakings is enough. Plus there is that smug Canadian altitude that they need Canadian approval.

Plus there is a Canadian feeling that we don't have to do the dirty work. We let the Americans do it and besides the Americans want to do it too is the altitude. And then as a Canadian we get feel superior when things go wrong for the US. And we sew a maple leaf on the backpack and Europeans love us.

50 years of history classes at high school teaching Canadians are peacekeepers. This the result.
 
I’m not surprised at all that Trudeau never planned to increase spending levels. What does surprise me is that he has admitted it rather than his usual “kicking the can down the road“ routine. Mind you, NATO knows he’s a bum. The problem is, the people of Canada are still too kind in their assessments of him and what his government has done…or should I say, hasn’t done. Now that he’s shown his true colours, I hope the electorate finally votes him and his like-minded cronies out of office forever. While I don’t want to see the LPC destroyed I do think they need to be severely trounced, much like Kathleen Wynne’s liberals was on the receiving end of the voters’ anger.

I could suggest the LPC was destroyed. Whatever zombie critter that came to life under Youngster is not recognizably related to the party Stephen Harper beat.
 
I could suggest the LPC was destroyed. Whatever zombie critter that came to life under Youngster is not recognizably related to the party Stephen Harper beat.
Well, JT has charisma. I’ll give him that.
 
If charisma is that thing that makes you want to puke every time he opens his mouth, then yes he has charisma.
He knows how to speak to quickly relate to people, I met him once, while in uniform before he was PM. Chatting to a group of soldiers, he quickly dove into a story about his brother going AWOL from course in gagetown, and only being discovered because their dad paid a visit to the base and wanted to see his son. He seems to have a story for every occasion, that quickly makes him relatable, and that is part of his weapon to win over Canadians.
 
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