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Jeffrey Deslisle-former RCN, convicted of spying

but what about:

(b) a group or association of foreign powers, or of one or more foreign powers and one or more terrorist groups, or

(c) a person acting at the direction of, for the benefit of or in association with a foreign power or a group or association referred to in paragraph (b);





'Cause technically, it is a person or persons, which may not be at the direction of, but any enity can see that site. So therefore it makes it a benefit to anyone. Does it not?
 
Grimaldus said:
If there are any gorgeous FEMALE Russian spies with a backpack full of money I am a very high ranking Navy official and my PM function is turned on.
Among other things, right?
 
More on this, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the Globe and Mail:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/intelligence-officer-facing-espionage-charge-had-top-level-clearance/article2305116/
Intelligence officer facing espionage charge had top-level clearance

STEVEN CHASE  AND OLIVER MOORE

OTTAWA AND HALIFAX— From Wednesday's Globe and Mail
Last updated Wednesday, Jan. 18, 2012

The man at the centre of an alleged espionage scandal worked in a military communications nerve centre where sources say Sub-Lieutenant Jeffrey Paul Delisle would have had top-level clearance to peruse Canada’s defence secrets.

Sources say SLt. Delisle’s most recent posting, the ultra-secure HMCS Trinity communications centre in Halifax, is surrounded by barbed wire and protected by an electronic shield that blocks unauthorized transmissions.

On Tuesday, the naval intelligence officer accused of spying had his bail hearing in a Halifax court delayed until next week at the request of his lawyer, who wanted more time to prepare. SLt. Delisle opted not to appear in court. “He doesn’t want to come up,” defence lawyer Cameron MacKeen told the judge, referring to the jail cells used by prisoners due in court.

What may be the biggest spy scandal in Canada in more than half a century exploded Monday after SLt. Delisle was charged with passing secrets to a “foreign entity” under Canada’s Information Security Act. It’s the first charge of its kind ever laid and one where the maximum penalty is the toughest possible under this country’s justice system: life in prison.

Details are slowly emerging about the Canadian Forces officer, despite a curtain of silence that’s been lowered by tight-lipped authorities, including the fact he declared bankruptcy in 1998.

The RCMP, Canadian military and the government refused to discuss the case but Defence Minister Peter MacKay took pains to insist the espionage allegations had not hurt the country’s relations with its foreign partners. “Let me assure you that our allies have full confidence in Canada.”

Sources say the Trinity communications centre was also privy to intelligence from Canada’s allies including the United States, Britain and Australia.

Officials at the U.S. and British embassies in Canada were not available for comment Tuesday.

Mr. MacKay on Tuesday refused to identify which country SLt. Delisle is alleged to have been spying for. “I’m not denying or confirming anything,” he said when asked to comment on news reports saying the recipient of the secrets was Russia.

“I am not going to play Clue,” he said.

A woman at Russia’s embassy in Ottawa said the embassy had no comment at this time on the Delisle story.

Sources said the Canadian government is currently conducting a damage assessment to discern how much national security has been compromised.

CTV reported Tuesday night that Canada is preparing a “measured response” to Russia that could include either summoning the Russian ambassador or expelling Russian diplomats.

However, the network said, the Harper government is leery of poisoning relations with Moscow and causing a public spat because the Prime Minister is headed to Russia later this year for a APEC summit.

Little is known about SLt. Delisle, 40, other than he most recently resided in Bedford, N.S., a suburb of Halifax, with a woman and three children.

His myspace.com page lists him as single as of 2008 and filings show a man with the same name and date of birth as the espionage suspect declared bankruptcy in Nova Scotia in February 1998 – less than two years after Jeffrey Delisle joined the Canadian Forces reserves.

It was barely a month before his 27th birthday, according to the record of the proceeding, and he owed $18,587 while declaring assets of $1,000.

He received a discharge from bankruptcy in November of 1998, filings show. The address given during the proceeding is currently assigned to a lower-level apartment at the back of a small house in Beaver Bank, a different suburb of Halifax.

Michael Hennessy, a professor of history and war studies at Royal Military College in Kingston, said the case is really unmatched in Canadian history – if the charges are proven. “For an officer and intelligence officer in particular to be involved in such behaviour is a massive betrayal of trust. It really is unprecedented.”

SLt. Delisle originally joined the Forces as a reservist in 1996 and later became an officer in 2008 after completing a bachelor of arts at Royal Military College.


I have no opinions re: SLt Delisle's guilt or innocence, a judge and jury will decide that, nor the nature of the charges preferred against him, I'm not a lawyer.

I am a bit dismayed by the somewhat "breathless" reporting; consider the first two paragraphs:

1. As those of you who hold security clearances know, no one, not even the CDS and MND are free "to peruse Canada’s defence secrets." DND's systems of information management and control ensure that information is compartmentalized and is "perused" on an often very, very strict "need to know" basis; and

2. It is normal for communications facilities to be "surrounded by barbed wire and protected by an electronic shield that blocks unauthorized transmissions." The wire is absent if the communications facility is, as is often the case, housed within a secure area - like a HQ building. The "electronic shield," often called a Faraday cage is a common thing - there are many inside some buildings - used to both protect information and prevent harmful radiation/interference.

It is hard enough for Canadians to comprehend what has happened without the unnecessary, uninformed sensationalism.


 
Another topic altogether, but how, and why, would you declare bankruptcy at $18,000?
That's barely a decent car.............
 
Retired AF Guy said:
Here is a video of an interview between Brian Lilley (Sun News TV) and Christian Leuprecht, a professor at the Department of Political Science and Economics at RMC and the School of Policy Studies at Queen's University.


Nitpicking, to be sure, but, that looked a lot like David Akin (an Army.ca member) to me.

AKIN_HED07.240x320.jpg

David Akin
 
Jimmy_D said:
but what about:

(b) a group or association of foreign powers, or of one or more foreign powers and one or more terrorist groups, or

(c) a person acting at the direction of, for the benefit of or in association with a foreign power or a group or association referred to in paragraph (b);





'Cause technically, it is a person or persons, which may not be at the direction of, but any enity can see that site. So therefore it makes it a benefit to anyone. Does it not?

The original start of this discussion was whether this might a "Wiki-leaks" type of thing. Remember that Julian Assange, the man behind Wiki-leaks was acting on his own, not at the behest of any government. That's why SLt. Delisle was charged under Sections 16(1) and (2), and Section 17, of the Security Information Act. If it had been a wiki-leaks scenario, then he would have been charged under a different section of the SIA, probably Section 4.(1)(a).

Just my two cents.
 
E.R. Campbell said:
More on this, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the Globe and Mail:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/intelligence-officer-facing-espionage-charge-had-top-level-clearance/article2305116/

I have no opinions re: SLt Delisle's guilt or innocence, a judge and jury will decide that, nor the nature of the charges preferred against him, I'm not a lawyer.

I am a bit dismayed by the somewhat "breathless" reporting; consider the first two paragraphs:

1. As those of you who hold security clearances know, no one, not even the CDS and MND are free "to peruse Canada’s defence secrets." DND's systems of information management and control ensure that information is compartmentalized and is "perused" on an often very, very strict "need to know" basis; and

2. It is normal for communications facilities to be "surrounded by barbed wire and protected by an electronic shield that blocks unauthorized transmissions." The wire is absent if the communications facility is, as is often the case, housed within a secure area - like a HQ building. The "electronic shield," often called a Faraday cage is a common thing - there are many inside some buildings - used to both protect information and prevent harmful radiation/interference.

It is hard enough for Canadians to comprehend what has happened without the unnecessary, uninformed sensationalism.

Unfortunately, if this member had an SA clearance, he would indeed be free to peruse alot of information.  This very act of course would be in contravention to the "need to know" regulation, but there would be nothing stopping the member from doing this.

However, based on what I have read, I beleive this to be unlikely.  It would appear that he was serving as an Intelligence Watch Officer (IWO).  As part of that job he would have had access to level 2 information.  In order to view higher levels he would have had to spend alot of time in a different area.  Allowing something like this to happen would be a gross act of negligence by many others.  Again very unlikely.
 
ltmaverick25 said:
Unfortunately, if this member had an SA clearance, he would indeed be free to peruse alot of information ...


Then I guess things have changed a great deal since I retired, because that was certainly not the case a few years ago. Each file, physical or electronic, had control of access rules and access registers so that supervisory and security personnel could see who was working on what.

 
E.R. Campbell said:
Then I guess things have changed a great deal since I retired, because that was certainly not the case a few years ago. Each file, physical or electronic, had control of access rules and access registers so that supervisory and security personnel could see who was working on what.

To my knowledge, there are access registers (electronic and otherwise) and systems that are segregated (air gaps).  But "Need to know" is too often an obstacle to efficient functioning - as it can be very difficult to assess who needs information.  Thus, sometimes, workarounds are crafted.

Right now I suspect acess logs are being reviewed in detail to discover what all he did have access to.  They will also conduct interviews to discover if password sharing was going on ; evaluate whether or not proper document handling was practiced... in short, conduct a comprehensive security audit.


Management of designated and classified information is always a challenge.  I seem to recall reading about the US Embassy in Iran having massive quantities of paper documents on hand and being physically incapable of destroying even the most sensitive items within the timeline they were mandated to do so (and even that much time wa snot available to them).

 
E.R. Campbell said:
Then I guess things have changed a great deal since I retired, because that was certainly not the case a few years ago. Each file, physical or electronic, had control of access rules and access registers so that supervisory and security personnel could see who was working on what.

I beleive, but am not certain, that they can determine all of the material he would have accessed electronically.  However, this is something they would now be doing after the fact.

As far as a paper registry, absolutely, there are controls applied to that IF done properly. 
Again though, I think in this case, the worst case scenario would be unlikely.  If I am wrong, I think there will be more then one person in hot water over this.
 
.... on the arrest & charges:
Following a comprehensive investigation by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), with assistance provided by the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service (CFNIS) and other Canadian Forces (CF) assets, the RCMP has charged a CF officer, Sub-Lieutenant (SLt) Jeffrey Paul Delisle, with offences under the Criminal Code of Canada and the Security of Information Act, including breach of trust and communicating safeguarded information to a foreign entity without lawful authority. This is the first time that an individual has been charged under Section 16(1) of the Security of Information Act.

SLt Delisle is an Intelligence Officer, currently serving in Halifax, Nova Scotia. He joined the Canadian Forces Reserves in 1996 and transferred to the Regular Force in 2001.

The CF takes the security of sensitive information very seriously, and we are ever mindful of the potentially adverse operational and strategic effects that can be created by unauthorized disclosure. For this reason, all CF personnel handling such material are required to observe stringent procedures to protect its security, and are expected to comport themselves ethically, and in a manner consistent with core military values of honour and loyalty.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank the RCMP, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, the Canada Border Services Agency and all other agencies involved for their hard work and diligence in pursuing this investigation.

While the CF remains fully committed to assisting the RCMP and cooperating in this investigation I will not be providing further details on this matter as the investigation is ongoing and the matter is now before the courts.
CF Info-machine, 18 Jan 11
 
I was just sent a link to CTV's coverage of the event (through my COC no less) and I made the dire mistake of reading the comments.  Angry Face.
 
ltmaverick25 said:
I beleive, but am not certain, that they can determine all of the material he would have accessed electronically.  However, this is something they would now be doing after the fact.

As far as a paper registry, absolutely, there are controls applied to that IF done properly. 
Again though, I think in this case, the worst case scenario would be unlikely.  If I am wrong, I think there will be more then one person in hot water over this.

He would only have been given sufficient privileges on the computer networks to access data needed to do his job.  Network permissions are usually granted based on the member's role, and access to data outside his own organization would have been severely restricted.  Very few people get widespread access to information, and they're system administrators, not users.  That said, access to data within his own organization is usually not restricted unless the owner of the data wants it locked down.

It would be very easy for system admins to determine what data he had access to, and security logs would reveal if he tried to access data to which he did not have sufficient privileges to access.
 
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Natynczyk says military knows how to keep secrets safe
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20120118/navy-spy-case-120118/#ixzz1jrFuDsM9

The Canadian Press

Date: Wednesday Jan. 18, 2012 3:09 PM ET

OTTAWA — The country's top military commander is trying to scrub away some of the tarnish created by an unfolding spy scandal involving a junior naval intelligence officer.

In his first public comment on the case, Gen. Walt Natynczyk says the military takes the security of sensitive information very seriously and is always mindful of the effects of leaks.

In a written statement, the chief of the defence staff says everyone handling secrets is required to not only observe stringent procedures, but expected to conduct themselves ethically and in a manner consistent with military values.

Natynczyk, who is in Brussels at a NATO defence chiefs meeting, wouldn't comment directly on the case of Sub-Lt. Jeffrey Paul Delisle, who was charged this week with communicating information to a foreign entity without authorization.

The charges are the first ever laid under revised national security legislation passed in the wake of 9/11.

It's been suggested that Delisle was spying for Russia -- something Defence Minister Peter MacKay refuses to confirm or deny.



 
JesseWZ said:
I was just sent a link to CTV's coverage of the event (through my COC no less) and I made the dire mistake of reading the comments.  Angry Face.

First rule of reading news sites ...

NEVER READ THE COMMENTS SECTION!
 
According to this report, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the Globe and Mail, we are now expelling some Russians:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-expels-russian-diplomats-in-wake-of-charges-against-canadian/article2308879/
Ottawa expels Russian diplomats in wake of charges against Canadian

STEVEN CHASE , OLIVER MOORE  AND TAMARA BALUJA

OTTAWA, HALIFAX AND TORONTO— From Friday's Globe and Mail
Published Thursday, Jan. 19, 2012

The Harper government has expelled staff at Russia’s embassy in the wake of charges filed against a Canadian military intelligence officer for allegedly passing secrets to a foreign power, The Globe and Mail has learned.

The names of two Russian diplomats – including a defence attaché – and two technical staff at the embassy have been dropped from the Department of Foreign Affairs’ official list of diplomatic, consular and foreign government representatives recognized by Ottawa.

The Canadian government has not officially confirmed news reports that Russia was the recipient of secret information that Sub-Lieutenant Jeffrey Paul Delisle now stands accused of giving to a “foreign entity.”

He was charged under Canada’s Security of Information Act on Monday and is now in custody in Halifax awaiting a bail hearing on Jan. 25.

The matter risks casting a chill over Canada-Russia relations as the two nations jockey for position in the race for Arctic resources. The accusation that there was a spy in the ranks of the Canadian military has the potential to damage this country’s standing among defence allies.

The Russian embassy in Canada dismissed the suggestion that its diplomats or staff were expelled in reprisal for the Delisle case, saying any departures were part of a normal rotation of employees on foreign postings. They say the staffers in question returned home at the end of 2011.

“Their term of contract has expired. That’s all,” a Russian embassy official said. “It’s a planned shift of the diplomatic staff.”

The Globe and Mail has learned, however, that a number of Russian embassy staff – more than one – have left Canada in connection with the alleged spy affair.

A Russian embassy official acknowledged the following three staffers have recently left Canada, saying, however, that all departures were routine:

- Lieutenant Colonel Dmitry V. Fedorchatenko, assistant defence attaché.

- Konstantin Kolpakov, attaché.

- Mikhail Nikiforov, with the administrative and technical staff.

The embassy did not provide a clear explanation for the fourth name now gone from Canada’s official list of diplomatic, consular and foreign government representatives: Tatiana Steklova, who had been described as “administrative and technical staff.”

All four of these names were part of the official Foreign Affairs daily list as of Jan. 18 and were also part of a monthly January, 2012, list the department recently published.

The four names disappeared from the daily list as of Jan. 19.

Christian Leuprecht, an associate professor of political science at Royal Military College, said Canada has tremendous incentive to keep any expulsions low key and avoid reprisals and diplomatic spats that might escalate.

“The Canadian government does not want to get into the sort of tit-for-tat that the British and the Russian governments have been in for the last almost three years with constantly expelling each other’s diplomats in retaliation,” he said.

“Likely what the government is trying to do here is have a quiet resolution to this matter and chances are the Russian Foreign Minister would have been given a head’s up ... that the Canadian government will be asking the Russians to withdraw these individuals but that the Canadian government would do so without making public that request in order to safeguard the political relationship and not turn it into any more of an embarrassment.”

Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird declined comment when asked if Canada had any hand in the fact four Russian embassy staffers were dropped from Ottawa’s official list of diplomatic, consular and foreign government representatives.

“The matter is before the courts and on a national security file; I am just not inclined to comment at this time,” he said in an interview.

Geoffrey O’Brian, a former director-general of counterintelligence at CSIS, said operatives pay close attention to military attachés at Russian embassies, trying to discern who is a member of the GRU, Russia’s largest foreign intelligence agency.

“The military attachés are classically the group from which GRU officers come, so part of the spy game – the equivalent of Where’s Waldo? – is to find out which of the military attaché staff are GRU officers and which aren’t,” Mr. O’Brian said.

SLt. Delisle – now the centre of what could be Canada’s biggest spy scandal in more than half a century – had started to bounce back in the years after declaring bankruptcy in his late 20s, moving from the reserves to the regular forces and starting his climb up the ranks of enlisted men.

But starting late in 2004 the serviceman suffered a series of new setbacks.

Two young daughters aged 10 and 11 were hit by an SUV while walking near their home in suburban Halifax, an incident that put one in the hospital and sparked a years-long battle for money. The serviceman dealt with the fallout of his girls’ injuries with his wife at his side. But court documents filed in the last 13 months indicate their union had since broken down and that they were now living in separate provinces.

It was in this period, the RCMP allege, that the serviceman started spying for a “foreign entity.”

The charges came after another attempt to rebuild his life. When arrested, he was living with a different woman, maintaining shared custody of his two daughters and had graduated from Royal Military College and moved to a job at an important intelligence unit in Halifax. But even then the echoes of his former problems continued to reverberate.

Court documents show that he was continuing to have difficulties securing money – a total of $10,500 that was to be held in trust for his daughters – from the man who hit his children. It’s not revealed in the documents, the most recent of which was filed at the end of November, whether he was able to get any money at all.

With reports from Jennifer MacMillan and Daniel Leblanc


Official Ottawa is still be commendably reticent about this case.
 
Surely some of the Tom Clancy "Cardinal of The Kremlin/Hunt for Red October educated" experts will be crying louder now with the mention of GRU.
 
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