• Thanks for stopping by. Logging in to a registered account will remove all generic ads. Please reach out with any questions or concerns.

Islamic Militant slain in Michigan

J.J

Full Member
Mentor
Reaction score
0
Points
210
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/21454119/detail.html

DETROIT -- The Detroit leader of a nationwide fundamentalist Islamic group was fatally shot during a series of FBI raids Wednesday afternoon.

The FBI arrested 10 people who have ties to the group called the Ummah, which translates to “the brotherhood.”

The group’s primary mission is to establish a separate sovereign Islamic state governed by Sunni law, according to FBI charging documents. Luqman Ameen Abdullah, 53, called his followers to an offensive jihad, rather than a defensive jihad.

During the raid, Abdullah, aka Christopher Thomas, fired his weapon, said the FBI in a release. An FBI police dog was shot during the gunfire.

The dog was transported via helicopter to an animal hospital in Madison Heights, but despite the rescue efforts, the dog died.

The rest of the suspects were arrested at the Detroit raid on Tireman and Firwood roads and the Dearborn raid on Michigan Avenue and Miller Road without incident.


Seven of the suspects appeared Wednesday afternoon in a detention hearing. The rest will appear before a judge Thursday.

Before the raid, Abdullah and the 10 others were charged in a complaint with conspiracy to commit several federal crimes, including illegal possession and sale of firearms, arson, body armor and theft from interstate shipments.

Named in the complaint is Mohammad Abdul Bassir, Muhammad Abdul Salaam, Abdul Saboor, Mujahid Carswell, Abdullah Beard, Mohammad Philistine, Yassir Ali Khan, Adam Hussain Ibraheem, Garry Laverne P orter and Ali Abdul Raqib.

The group consists primarily of African-Americans, some whom converted to Islam while serving sentences in various prisons around the county.

The nationwide leader is believed to be Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rapp Brown. He is currently serving a life sentence in prison for the murder of two police officers in Georgia.

Abdullah Al-Amin preaches violence against law enforcement officials and has trained members of the Ummah inside of a mosque located on Joy Road how to use firearms, martial arts, sword fighting and other types of self defense in anticipation of government violence, according to the FBI.

Undercover agents in the organization have told the FBI that Abdullah used to discipline its members starting at an early age by beating them with sticks on their hands, knees and legs and once he beat a little boy so badly that the child was unable to walk for several days.

In October of 2008, a source the FBI called “credible” recorded statements by Abdullah at a mosque during prayer where he said that Muslims need to cut ties with Christians, Jews, and Kuffars, which the FBI said means all non-muslims.

“Obama is a Kafir. McCain is a Kafir, all the rest of them Kuffars, are Kuffars…. The worst Muslim is better than the best Kafir,” said FBI documents.

At this time, the FBI continues to seek Mujahid Carswell, Mohammad Alsahi and Yassir Ali Khan.

Anyone with information is asked to call the FBI at 313-965-2323



A raid in the metro Detroit area with connections to Windsor, ON. Currently only Carswell is outstanding, the remainder are in custody.
 

Spanky

Sr. Member
Subscriber
Reaction score
0
Points
210
Well Done FBI!  As well as any other LEO involved.  H. Rapp Brown still around?  I thought he was long gone.
 

mariomike

Moderator
Staff member
Directing Staff
Subscriber
Mentor
Reaction score
673
Points
1,260
Spanky said:
H. Rapp Brown still around?  I thought he was long gone.

I thought they threw the switch on him years ago! Looks like he's chillin' down south in the Georgia Pen. But, still pulling strings using a new name.
Sad news about the FBI K-9:  "transported via helicopter to an animal hospital" but was D.O.A.

P.S. I just looked Rapp Brown up on Wiki. Looks like he was too hot to handle in Georgia, so they transferred him over to the Federal system.

Here is the same thread:
http://forums.navy.ca/forums/threads/90122/post-886783.html#msg886783
 

old medic

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
0
Points
410
Islamic leader slain in Michigan
A man described by the FBI as the head of a radical organization is killed in a raid, federal agents say.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/la-na-fbi-raid29-2009oct29,0,3738861.story

Detroit -  Federal authorities Wednesday arrested several members of a radical Sunni Islamic group in the U.S., killing one of its leaders in a shootout at a Dearborn, Mich., warehouse, the U.S. attorney's office said.

Agents were trying to arrest Luqman Ameen Abdullah, 53, on charges that included conspiracy to sell stolen goods and illegal possession and sale of firearms. Authorities also conducted raids elsewhere to try to round up 10 followers named in a federal complaint.

No one was charged with terrorism. But Abdullah was "advocating and encouraging his followers to commit violent acts against the United States," FBI agent Gary Leone said in an affidavit filed with the 43-page criminal complaint unsealed Wednesday.

FBI spokeswoman Sandra Berchtold said Abdullah refused to surrender, fired a weapon and was killed by gunfire from agents.

In the complaint, the FBI said Abdullah, also known as Christopher Thomas, was an imam, or prayer leader, of a radical group named Ummah whose primary mission is to establish an Islamic state within the United States.

He told them it was their "duty to oppose the FBI and the government and it does not matter if they die," Leone said.

Abdullah regularly preached anti-government rhetoric and was trained, along with his followers, in the use of firearms, martial arts and swords, the agent said.

Leone said members of the national group mostly are black and some converted to Islam while in prisons across the United States.

"Abdullah preaches that every Muslim should have a weapon, and should not be scared to use their weapon when needed," Leone wrote.

Seven of the 10 people charged with Abdullah were in custody, including a state prison inmate, the U.S. attorney's office said. Three were still at large. Another man not named in the complaint also was arrested.

The group thinks that a separate Islamic state in the U.S. would be controlled by Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rap Brown, who is serving a life sentence in a federal prison in Colorado for the shooting death of a sheriff's deputy in Georgia in 2000, Leone said. Al-Amin, a veteran of the black power movement, started the group after he converted to Islam while in prison in the 1970s.

"They're not taking their cues from overseas," said Jimmy Jones, a professor of world religions at Manhattanville College in New York and a longtime Muslim prison chaplain. "This group is very much American born and bred."

The movement at one time was believed to include a couple dozen mosques around the country. Ummah is now dwarfed in numbers and influence by other African American Muslim groups, particularly the mainstream Sunnis who were led by W.D. Mohammed, who died last year.

The U.S. attorney's office said an FBI dog was also killed during the shootout.

The complaint shows the FBI built its case with the help of confidential sources close to Abdullah who recorded conversations.

An FBI source said that Abdullah regularly beat children inside the mosque with sticks, including a boy who was "unable to walk for several days," Leone said.

The source, Leone said, regularly listened to a recording of a 2004 sermon in which Abdullah said, "Do not carry a pistol if you're going to give it up to police. You give them a bullet!"
 

old medic

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
0
Points
410
FBI seeks Ontarians linked to radical group

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091029/ontario_fbi_091029/20091029?hub=TopStoriesV2

CTV.ca News Staff
Date: Thursday Oct. 29, 2009 9:54 AM ET

The FBI is hunting for three Ontario men who face charges stemming from an investigation into an alleged radical Sunni Islam group in the United States.

Federal agents carried out several raids Wednesday, as they rounded up members of the Ummah group on charges that included conspiracy to sell stolen goods and illegal sale of firearms.

A senior member of the group, 53-year-old Luqman Ameen Abdullah, was shot dead during a raid in Dearborn, Mich., after he refused to surrender and fired upon federal agents, said FBI spokesperson Sandra Berchtold.

According to a 43-page complaint filed in a federal court, the FBI alleges that Abdullah was the imam of Ummah -- a Black Muslim radical group whose primary mission is to establish an Islamic state within the United States.

None of the group members face terrorism charges, though Abdullah was "advocating and encouraging his followers to commit violent acts against the United States," according to an affidavit filed with the criminal complaint.

Seven other members of the group were arrested Wednesday and face criminal charges.

The three Ontario suspects were not found during Wednesday's raids.

Mujahid Carswell, 30; Mohammad Alsahi, 33; and Yassir Ali Khan, 30, are each facing a single change of conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

According to an FBI press release, Carswell also resides in Detroit and is also known as Mujahid Abdullah.

Alsahi is also known as Mohammad Palestine.

Khan is also a resident of Warren, Mich., just over 20 kilometres north of Detroit.

With files from The Associated Press
 

Kat Stevens

Army.ca Fixture
Subscriber
Donor
Reaction score
1,474
Points
1,060
This news breaks my heart... no, wait... just a little gas.  I'm fine now.
 

mariomike

Moderator
Staff member
Directing Staff
Subscriber
Mentor
Reaction score
673
Points
1,260
Not every day that one reads of an airlift to a Veterinarian:
http://www.freep.com/article/20091029/NEWS01/910290642/1322/Chopper-rushing-shot-FBI-dog-to-vet-lands-in-John-R

Here is the same thread:
http://forums.navy.ca/forums/threads/90110/post-886656.html#msg886656
 

Fishbone Jones

Army.ca Myth
Subscriber
Donor
Reaction score
964
Points
1,060
H. Rap Brown! What a hoot. I haven't heard of him since he was Justice Minister for the Black Panthers in the 60s. "If America don't come around, we're gonna burn it down".

Guess his goal hasn't changed much, just his excuse for it. ;D
 

old medic

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
0
Points
410
Man linked to slain Islamic radical nabbed in Windsor
Windsor man among 3 facing charges of conspiracy to commit federal crimes
Last Updated: Thursday, October 29, 2009 | 5:08 PM ET

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/10/29/fbi-detroit-ummah-ontario193.html

Windsor police have assisted in the arrest of one of three Ontario men believed to have connections with a radical Sunni Islam leader who was killed in a shootout in Detroit, CBC News has learned.

Mujahid Carswell, 30, was taken into custody in Windsor at about 1 p.m. Thursday without incident, according to Deputy Police Chief Jerome Brannagan.

Police arrested Carswell downtown, in the 500 block of Church Street, Brannagan said.

The Canada Border Services Agency is detaining him for immigration violations, he said.

Carswell was one of three men wanted by the FBI. The others are:

    * Mohammad Al-Sahli, 33, a resident of Ontario, also known as Mohammad Palestine or Mohammad Philistine.
    * Yassir Ali Khan, 30, who has two addresses in Windsor.

The three men are facing charges of conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

"These individuals do have lengthy felony records," said Andrew Arena, the special agent in charge of the FBI in Detroit. "There's some radical, very extreme views of the Muslim faith ... there's some black separatist views."

Carswell is the biological son of the man who was killed, Luqman Ameen Abdullah — who is also identified as Christopher Thomas — who the FBI alleges was advocating and encouraging his followers at the Al-Haqq mosque to commit violent acts against the U.S.

"Abdullah has espoused the use of violence against law enforcement, and has trained members of his group in use of firearms and martial arts in anticipation of some type of action against the government," the FBI said in a joint release with the U.S. Attorney's Office. "Abdullah and other members of this group were known to carry firearms and other weapons."

Abdullah's group, Ummah, is made up mostly of African-American converts to Islam who want to establish a separate Islamic state in the U.S. controlled by their leader, Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, also known as H. Rap Brown, a veteran of the black power movement in the 1960s who is serving a life sentence for shooting two police officers in Georgia in 2000.

FBI agents and local police officers conducted a series of raids on Detroit residences and a suburban warehouse on Wednesday following a two-year investigation into Abdullah, 53, and his followers, officials said.

Police approached the warehouse Abdullah was in and attempted to arrest him on charges that included illegal possession and sale of firearms. Abdullah refused to surrender, fired a weapon and was killed when agents returned fire, said FBI officials. An FBI dog died in the incident.

Ten of Abdullah's associates — including the three believed to be Ontarians — are facing several federal crimes including theft from interstate shipments, mail fraud to obtain the proceeds of arson, illegal possession and sale of firearms, and tampering with motor vehicle identification numbers.
Connections to Ontario

A criminal complaint written by FBI special agent Gary Leone, which was unsealed Wednesday, makes several allegations about the three Ontario men, based partly on statements made by a confidential FBI source.

According to Leone's complaint, Carswell told the source he lived in Windsor, two blocks from the Detroit-Windsor tunnel, and taught martial arts to about 60 children at a local mosque. Carswell is also "known to carry a .40-calibre handgun," the complaint says.

The source told Leone that Philistine also resides in Windsor and is considered by Abdullah to be "'a soldier and a warrior,'" according to the complaint.

Yassir Ali Khan is an associate of Philistine, the complaint says.

All three men took part in an elaborate scheme to sell laptop computers stolen in the U.S. to buyers in Canada on various dates in March, April and May 2009, the complaint says.

However, the scheme was an undercover FBI operation.

Based on that operation, each man now faces a charge of conspiracy to commit federal crimes, including the sale or receipt of stolen goods transported in interstate commerce, a violation of section 371 of the U.S. Code.
With files from The Associated Press
 

J.J

Full Member
Mentor
Reaction score
0
Points
210
Carswell is back in the US and currently in custody of the FBI
 

GAP

Army.ca Legend
Donor
Mentor
Reaction score
20
Points
380
OldSoldier said:
Good. If a few more were killed it would not break my heart.

This is a good start, now continue with additional "violent takedowns" and everything will even out after awhile....
 

zipperhead_cop

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
0
Points
410
Yeah, door kicks are great.  But unfortunately this won't do anything to wow the sheeple.  Terrorists will continue to receive safe haven here in Canada. 
My condolances to the handler of the slain PSD.  At least one more shitbag is out of the mix. 
Could we maybe change the title of this thread to "Islamic Radical killed in Michigan"?  I don't believe that this clown provided leadership to any genuine portion of the Islamic population and "slain" has a sympathetic sound to it.  Skippy got what he needed and deserved. 
 

J.J

Full Member
Mentor
Reaction score
0
Points
210
http://www.windsorstar.com/sports/Terror+suspect+arrest+Windsor+shocks+pregnant+partner/2160545/story.html


WINDSOR, Ont. -- He’s the alleged member of a heavily-armed security force for radical Detroit Muslims who is accused of covering up a murder and training Windsor children martial arts in the pursuit of jihad.

The heavily armed Windsor police tactical squad surrounded a Church Street house Thursday and arrested Mujahid Carswell, 30, also known as Mujahid Abdullah.

Police arrested Carswell the day after his father Luqman Ameen Abdullah, the leader of a fundamentalist Islamic group, was killed in a shootout with FBI agents during a raid on a Dearborn, Mich., warehouse.

The phone rings, we look out the window and there’s snipers pointed all around the house,” said Carswell’s pregnant Windsor partner, who didn’t want her name used for fear she’d be cut off government assistance. “This is absolutely surreal. My husband is a good brother.”“He was scared, man. They just killed his dad.”

Sgt. Brett Corey said Windsor police got involved at the request of the Canada Border Services Agency. He said the CBSA asked them to make the arrest because they believed Carswell had guns. Corey said they arrested Carswell without incident around 1 p.m. Thursday and found no firearms.

Carswell is charged in Detroit with conspiracy to commit federal crimes. Police were still hunting for two more Ontario men Thursday, including Yassir Ali Khan, 30. The other outstanding fugitive was Mohammad Philistine, 33, also known as Mohammad Al-Sahli and Mohammad Palestine. He lives in Windsor.

An affidavit sworn by FBI agents states that Abdullah called Philistine a “soldier and a warrior.” Authorities allege Philistine sold stolen merchandise for the group, along with other criminal activity.

U.S. authorities have charged 11 people. They’re members of a group call Umman, or the brotherhood, mostly African-American converts to Islam seeking to establish a separate state within the U.S. governed by Sharia law.

“The 11 defendants are members of a group that is alleged to have engaged in violent activity over a period of many years, and known to be armed,” a U.S. Department of Justice news release stated.

Among them is Carswell, Abdullah’s oldest biological son. He lives back and forth between Detroit and Windsor, where the future mother of his child resides. She’s due to give birth in two weeks.

The FBI affidavit states an informant once witnessed a murder in the basement of the group’s Detroit mosque, Masjid Al-Haqq, and saw Carswell use toilet bowl cleaner to wash away the blood. He’s allegedly involved in illicit drug activity, fencing stolen merchandise and carries a .40 calibre handgun.

Carswell is also the alleged member of Masjid Al-Haqq’s Sutra team, armed men responsible for mosque security and protecting members from police and local street gangs. The team carries guns and are trained in several types of self-defence including kickboxing, boxing and sword fighting, according to the FBI.

An informant witnessed Carswell training children as young as seven in martial arts as well. He beat them to instill bravery and obedience, according to the FBI.

Carswell also allegedly told an informant he attended a large mosque in Windsor and the people there “are serious and organized.” He allegedly bragged that he trains about 60 children, aged eight to 18, in martial arts at the unnamed Windsor mosque.

The mother of Carswell’s baby said he’s a freelance audio engineer and he teaches the kids basketball.

“Anybody, even the brothers that may not like him, know that he came here on the weekends to teach basketball to these children,” said the woman, who also has a daughter from another relationship. “Now they’ve turned it into some big conspiracy ring.”

“This is a good brother. This is a brother who cooks breakfast, who picks up my daughter from school every day.”

She said they found out what happened around 6 p.m. Wednesday. Carswell was in Windsor during the raid.

“I’m at the grocery store, he goes to pick up my daughter from school,” she said. “He gets a phone a call saying that federal agents shot and killed his father.”

She said they don’t have Internet and only one TV channel, so Carswell went to Starbucks to get online. She claimed she was blindsided by the allegations against Carswell and his father.

“Neither of us knew, (expletive), neither of us knew,” she said. “We’re sitting in Starbucks, we find out his dad is killed. We don’t even know why his dad is killed.”

“Imam Luqman for 28 years has fed the community in Detroit. He never left. Stayed on the west side of Detroit, ran a soup kitchen every day for 28 years.”

When armed officers appeared at Carswell’s door, his partner said he was calling around to find a lawyer because he was afraid to turn himself in.

“You’re going to call employees of the government who just murdered his father?” she said. “I mean he’s a little apprehensive to pick up the phone and just say hey, you guys wanted to talk. It’s not that simple.”


twilhelm@thestar.canwest.com or 519-255-6850

© Copyright (c) The Windsor Star


She considers herself a "revert", not an convert to Islam. The highlighted portion shows her true fears...
 

Danjanou

Army.ca Fixture
Reaction score
0
Points
410
zipperhead_cop said:
Could we maybe change the title of this thread to "Islamic Radical killed in Michigan"?  I don't believe that this clown provided leadership to any genuine portion of the Islamic population and "slain" has a sympathetic sound to it.  Skippy got what he needed and deserved.

I could use my dark mod powers to change it to Scumbag Gets What He Deserves, but I think we'd get letters. 8)
 

mariomike

Moderator
Staff member
Directing Staff
Subscriber
Mentor
Reaction score
673
Points
1,260
zipperhead_cop said:
My condolances to the handler of the slain PSD. 

His name was "Freddy":
http://www.detnews.com/article/20091030/METRO01/910300390/1410
 

old medic

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
0
Points
410
Mosque denies slain imam was radical
By Ed White, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2009/10/30/11585971-ap.html

DETROIT - A mosque on Friday dismissed as "utterly preposterous" the FBI's allegations that its slain leader was part of a radical Islamic group.

Luqman Ameen Abdullah, the imam or prayer leader of Masjid Al-Haqq in Detroit, was a "recognized and respected member of numerous mainstream Muslim organizations and leadership bodies," the mosque said.

Abdullah, 53, was fatally shot Wednesday as FBI agents tried to arrest him on several charges, including conspiracy to sell stolen goods. The FBI says he resisted arrest inside a warehouse and fired a gun.

A criminal complaint filed by the government describes Abdullah as a leader of a national radical Sunni group that wants to create an Islamic state within the U.S. The FBI says he had extreme anti-government views and encouraged followers to commit violence.

No terrorism-related charges were brought against any of the 11 people charged in the complaint, including Abdullah.

"The slanderous allegations of his being a national leader of a radical Islamic sect is utterly preposterous. ... These allegations are contrary to what we as a community stand for," the mosque said.


The statement was read by an assistant prayer leader, Mikail Stewart Sandiq, as many members milled outside the mosque after Friday prayers. He declined to answer questions.

Abdullah's son, Omar Regan, 34, of Los Angeles said he helped prepare the body for a funeral Saturday. He said his father was shot multiple times, and called the killing "barbaric."

"What's done is done," Regan said, standing across the street from the mosque. "He knew he was wronged. If God calls you home, you can't help but answer."

As for the government's allegations, Regan said "they can hold up a piece of paper but show me you have proof. Where is it?"

FBI spokeswoman Sandra Berchtold declined to comment on how many times Abdullah was shot. She referred questions to police in Dearborn, the Detroit suburb where the shooting took place. A city spokeswoman did not immediately respond to an emailed message seeking comment, and the Wayne County medical examiner's office did not immediately respond to phone messages.

Two of the 11 people named in the criminal complaint were still at large Friday. At least four men have been ordered held without bond; another is in a Michigan prison.

In Washington, a group called the American Muslim Taskforce on Civil Rights and Elections called for an independent investigation of Abdullah's death.

The group is an umbrella organization whose members include the American Muslim Alliance, American Muslims for Palestine and Council on American-Islamic Relations.
 

zipperhead_cop

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
0
Points
410
WR said:
http://www.windsorstar.com/sports/Terror+suspect+arrest+Windsor+shocks+pregnant+partner/2160545/story.html
The phone rings, we look out the window and there’s snipers pointed all around the house,” said Carswell’s pregnant Windsor partner, who didn’t want her name used for fear she’d be cut off government assistance. “This is absolutely surreal. My husband is a good brother.”“He was scared, man. They just killed his dad.”

Wow.  How many awesome things can you cram into one quote?  I bet the actual snipers on our job are bent with her comment.  And little miss terrorist spawner can rest assured that keeping her name from some reporter is not exactly how she will stay out from under Social Services radar.  However, maybe they will sympathize with her, since she appears to be having her brothers baby.  :p

"The slanderous allegations of his being a national leader of a radical Islamic sect is utterly preposterous. ... These allegations are contrary to what we as a community stand for," the mosque said.

Yeah, that's why he got into a fire fight with the FBI, who are known for pulling wild hare allegations out of their orifices  ::)
 

old medic

Army.ca Veteran
Reaction score
0
Points
410
Men wanted by FBI arrested in Ont.
By THE CANADIAN PRESS
Last Updated: 31st October 2009, 11:56am

http://www.calgarysun.com/news/canada/2009/10/31/11591571-cp.html
WINDSOR, Ont. — Two Ontario men wanted by the FBI for alleged involvement in a radical Islamic group have been arrested in Windsor, Ontario.

The RCMP says Mohammad Al-Sahli, 33, and Yassir Ali Kahn, 30, both of Windsor, were apprehended at residences in the city this morning without incident.

The arrests come just days after Mujahid Carswell, the son of an imam killed in a shootout with the FBI in Detroit Wednesday, was arrested in Windsor.

An FBI complaint, the result of a two-year-investigation, alleges all three men conspired to commit federal crimes.

However, the underlying thread is that the group espoused violence and sought to establish a Sharia-law state within the United States
.
 

1feral1

Banned
Banned
Reaction score
0
Points
410
The only sad news in this story is the Police Dog killed on duty.

OWDU
 
Top