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Harry and Meghan to step down as senior royals

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My wife and I watched the whole thing tonight. It hit me surprisingly hard. I’ve never before seen such a public and high profile representation of a man supporting his wife through profoundly difficult mental health stuff, and going through his own along with it. It hit extremely close to home, especially the bit where she points out the photo where they’re both smiling and putting on the facade at an event- and he’s got a death grip holding her hand after she told him that morning that she wanted to die. I know that grip. My wife, similarly, found a lot relatable in what she’s been through. Not the specifics obviously, but some of the tumult life can throw, and being told you’re welcome into an institution and then finding it decidedly not so.

it was a very well done interview, and I think they both handled it very well. My estimation of them has already increased; mine for Harry having been quite high already. I’d have a beer with them.
 

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My wife and I watched the whole thing tonight. It hit me surprisingly hard. I’ve never before seen such a public and high profile representation of a man supporting his wife through profoundly difficult mental health stuff, and going through his own along with it. It hit extremely close to home, especially the bit where she points out the photo where they’re both smiling and putting on the facade at an event- and he’s got a death grip holding her hand after she told him that morning that she wanted to die. I know that grip. My wife, similarly, found a lot relatable in what she’s been through. Not the specifics obviously, but some of the tumult life can throw, and being told you’re welcome into an institution and then finding it decidedly not so.

it was a very well done interview, and I think they both handled it very well. My estimation of them has already increased; mine for Harry having been quite high already. I’d have a beer with them.

Your VISA couldn't take the strain ;)
 

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I wonder how much the Queen is aware of what is going on, she is a remarkable woman, but i can't imagine she know every detail and palace intrigue in that place must be insane?
 

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The truth will out...

What Meghan Markle didn’t tell Oprah about their security being pulled while in B.C.

The moment Prince Harry and Meghan Markle arrived on Vancouver Island in December, 2019, their status as royals meant they were furnished a taxpayer-funded RCMP detail without even needing to ask.

https://vancouversun.com/news/world...lled/wcm/b9f796f1-f761-4706-b53f-87248960347e
The whole debacle with Harry and Megan has painted everybody in a bad light. Harry did some great stuff, that doesn't mean everything he does is great. We have heard one side of a story, the palace will never go public with their side because that's not how they work.

The interview is nothing more than a PR stunt to keep them in people's minds before they launch their next endeavor. Good for them, rock the celebrity status as long as they can, eventually people will forget about a middling actress and a veteran.
 

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The whole debacle with Harry and Megan has painted everybody in a bad light. Harry did some great stuff, that doesn't mean everything he does is great. We have heard one side of a story, the palace will never go public with their side because that's not how they work.
Nope they'll have a bevy of staffers "leak" stories to a fawning press.

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The Duke and Duchess had 9 police calls to their home in California. People must be curious but folks should respect their privacy.


"People think there's a rigid class system here, but dukes have been known to marry chorus girls. Some have even married Americans."

Prince Philip
 

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No UK-cops-paid-with-your-own-money security for YOU!
Prince Harry has filed a claim for a judicial review against the British government's decision not to let him personally pay for police protection while in the U.K.

The Duke of Sussex's legal representative said Saturday that Harry wants to bring his children Archie and Lilibet to visit his home country from the U.S. but that is too risky without police protection.

The representative said Harry wanted to fund the police protection himself. His private security team in the U.S. doesn't have adequate jurisdiction abroad or access to U.K. intelligence information, they said.

"The Duke and Duchess of Sussex personally fund a private security team for their family, yet that security cannot replicate the necessary police protection needed whilst in the U.K.," a statement said.

"In the absence of such protection, Prince Harry and his family are unable to return to his home." ...
 

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So Monarchists complain about the cost to protect Harry and family in the UK, he offers to pay personally for said police protection, and he is not allowed to pay personally. Sounds like a Catch-22 making it not practical to travel to the UK. Perhaps not such a loss if that’s how Brits are going to be.
 

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So Monarchists complain about the cost to protect Harry and family in the UK, he offers to pay personally for said police protection, and he is not allowed to pay personally. Sounds like a Catch-22 making it not practical to travel to the UK. Perhaps not such a loss if that’s how Brits are going to be.
So he pays for what I suspect would be specialized police protection that would be moved from other actual details in order to facilitate a private citizen?

He made his choice to be a private citizen.
 

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So he pays for what I suspect would be specialized police protection that would be moved from other actual details in order to facilitate a private citizen?

He made his choice to be a private citizen.
Under UK law, he is no longer considered an Internationally Protected Person (IPP) unless he is in the company of HRH.
 

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They wouldn't be eligible for Paid Duty in this town, either,

What paid duties functions are NOT permitted?
• On behalf of an employer or union in relation to a Labour dispute,
• At a function likely to promote a confrontation between participating groups including, but not limited to, annual general meetings, termination of employees by an employer, protests and get belongings, and/or,
• Events for political parties or politicians,
As a bodyguard service,
• The escort of money or valuables.

He made his choice to be a private citizen.
And as we read so often on here, choices have consequences.

 

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So Monarchists complain about the cost to protect Harry and family in the UK, he offers to pay personally for said police protection, and he is not allowed to pay personally. Sounds like a Catch-22 making it not practical to travel to the UK. Perhaps not such a loss if that’s how Brits are going to be.
He wanted to be a private citizen. Welcome to being a private citizen. I can't pay for special police protection either.
 

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He wanted to be a private citizen. Welcome to being a private citizen. I can't pay for special police protection either.
Armed private security services are not available in the UK. But a quick Google search turned up many security and bodyguard service providers who would jump on a contract with Mr. Windsor.
 

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Armed private security services are not available in the UK. But a quick Google search turned up many security and bodyguard service providers who would jump on a contract with Mr. Windsor.
They are in the US, and knowing a few folks that did CP work after retirement, you can get approval in the UK for a US Security team to be armed for private individuals (the same way incidentally one can get it in Canada). The fact is this is a unique situation because of whom he is, and what happened.

Fly privately - and you can have weapons, and there are exceptions for anything if you have the right reasons and know who to ask/approve.

This seems to me, more like a showboating stunt - OR - the Palace ensured he couldn't bring a US team over.
My guess is the former...
 

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This seems to me, more like a showboating stunt - OR - the Palace ensured he couldn't bring a US team over.
My guess is the former...
You are likely correct. "You want to be a commoner? Well, commoners look after themselves."

And, for reference to the discussion, from a UK agency's webpage.
 

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Armed private security services are not available in the UK. But a quick Google search turned up many security and bodyguard service providers who would jump on a contract with Mr. Windsor.
They can't provide the same service for numerous reasons. Harry didn't want "free" police protections. He was and is prepared to pay for it.

The legal representative added: 'The Duke first offered to pay personally for UK police protection for himself and his family in January of 2020 at Sandringham. That offer was dismissed.

'He remains willing to cover the cost of security, as not to impose on the British taxpayer. As is widely known, others who have left public office and have an inherent threat risk receive police protection at no cost to them.

'The goal for Prince Harry has been simple - to ensure the safety of himself and his family while in the UK so his children can know his home country.

'During his last visit to the UK in July 2021 - to unveil a statue in honour of his late mother - his security was compromised due to the absence of police protection, whilst leaving a charity event.


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