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Freedom Convoy protests [Split from All things 2019-nCoV]

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Despite CSIS stating the convoy was not a CSIS Act S. 2 threat to national security, and there has been no evidence yet presented from any other security or LE agency suggesting same ... it seems a significant part of why the NSA and the Clerk recommended invoking the EA was based off of "shitposting" on social media.
 

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Despite CSIS stating the convoy was not a CSIS Act S. 2 threat to national security, and there has been no evidence yet presented from any other security or LE agency suggesting same ... it seems a significant part of why the NSA and the Clerk recommended invoking the EA was based off of "shitposting" on social media.
…and don’t forget CBC’s ‘assessment’ that apparently figured into the Gov’t consideration.
 

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And hot off the presses, CSIS director to the rescue of the PM.

"But Vigneault also told the inquiry that at no point did the Freedom Convoy ever “constitute a threat to the security of Canada,” but that assessment does not include other factors “such as economic harm or environmental harm, even public health harm, and the pandemic,” because they are not included within the confines of the CSIS Act."
 

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And hot off the presses, CSIS director to the rescue of the PM.

"But Vigneault also told the inquiry that at no point did the Freedom Convoy ever “constitute a threat to the security of Canada,” but that assessment does not include other factors “such as economic harm or environmental harm, even public health harm, and the pandemic,” because they are not included within the confines of the CSIS Act."
I found this part very interesting as a ‘peak behind the curtain’:

CSIS confirmed that it now dedicates at least half of its counter-terrorism resources to monitoring the threat of Ideologically motivated violent extremism (IMVE), a stark shift from the decade after 9/11 when Islamic radicalism was identified as the biggest threat to Canada.



CSIS breaks down IMVE into four categories of violence: xenophobic (white supremacy, neo-Nazis); anti-authority (anti-government, such as the Jan. 6, 2021 storming of the U.S. Capitol); gender-driven (Incels or violent misogyny); and “other grieveance-driven” threats (such as violent enviromental or anti-abortion groups).



“The COVID-19 pandemic exacerbated xenophobic and anti-authority narratives. Some violent extremists view COVID-19 as a real but welcome crisis that could hasten the collapse of Western society. Many IMVE threat actors have adopted conspiracy theories about the pandemic in an attempt to rationalize and justify violence,” reads a CSIS “institutional report” provided to the commission.
 

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And hot off the presses, CSIS director to the rescue of the PM.

"But Vigneault also told the inquiry that at no point did the Freedom Convoy ever “constitute a threat to the security of Canada,” but that assessment does not include other factors “such as economic harm or environmental harm, even public health harm, and the pandemic,” because they are not included within the confines of the CSIS Act."


CSIS breaks down IMVE into four categories of violence: xenophobic (white supremacy, neo-Nazis); anti-authority (anti-government, such as the Jan. 6, 2021 storming of the U.S. Capitol); gender-driven (Incels or violent misogyny); and “other grieveance-driven” threats (such as violent enviromental or anti-abortion groups).

That's an interesting definition of xenophobic that CSIS uses.
 

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…and don’t forget CBC’s ‘assessment’ that apparently figured into the Gov’t consideration.

Reading the CBC's 'assessment' be like....

Season 2 Lol GIF by Friends
 

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Not sure what is wrong with the definition. White supremacists and neo-nazis are definitely xenophobic (assuming the changed definition of phobia from "fear" to "dislike/hate"). Those two are examples, not an exhaustive list.
 

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Not sure what is wrong with the definition. White supremacists and neo-nazis are definitely xenophobic (assuming the changed definition of phobia from "fear" to "dislike/hate"). Those two are examples, not an exhaustive list.

Yea maybe it's just my reading.
 
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Yea maybe it's just my reading.
Or, and here's a kooky thought, while all white (black, brown, red, blue,) supremacists and/or neo-Nazis may be xenophobes, not all xenophobes are either one of those things? You can apply xenophobia against Danes or Swedes, or even, god help me, the Dutch, just as well as you can against anyone else. Just sayin 🥣
 

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Or, and here's a kooky thought, while all white (black, brown, red, blue,) supremacists and/or neo-Nazis may be xenophobes, not all xenophobes are either one of those things? You can apply xenophobia against Danes or Swedes, or even, god help me, the Dutch, just as well as you can against anyone else. Just sayin 🥣
There are two things I can't stand in this world; people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
 
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