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Fire Discipline Challenge

Ralph

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Goober said:
Marking with HE is an effective method, but I challenge you to find the book reference.

Gah! If it's not in 371-4, it doesn't exist!!
 

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371-02 mentions HE Delay more than a few times as an effective method to indicate a target or "prove" a location

And keeping with the pedantic nature of this thread...
Mark is also a Naval Gunfire Term used to indicate to the supporting ship the time of effective illumination
 

GnyHwy

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Marking with HE is an effective method, but I challenge you to find the book reference.

You won't find the words creativity or intuition in the book either but, without it you are leaving yourself very limited for options.

Any of our books are good references for basic and refresher type training, but the book could not contain all the details necessary to cover every possibility.  Otherwise, it wouldn't fit in your truck or on a flash drive.

That said. All books are under revision and should be out in time for about the year 2020. Right around the time when they will be due to be rewritten again.

I believe the purpose of this thread is to bring up more subjective ideas rather than what the book might or might not say.
 

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Sorry for the delay in getting back but wrt to my FD question the correct answer is in fact send "verify direction" to the op.  6400 is used by convention but only for impact adjust.
 

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Some good discussion. About the book, I know it doesn't have all the answers but it can save you from a charge, or condemn you.

If C/S 1 has 5 subcall signs engaged in a Fire Mission, and the ammo order in the initial sequence of orders looks like this:

50% delay in effect

How many guns will shoot what ammo, and why?
 

rampage800

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3 guns will fire Quick because its the first ammunition ordered by convention (because nothing else was given except 50% Delay).

30 min for a plane to drop for you Gny ?
 

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Michael O'Leary said:
Well, it did decrease the average range of wingers by the Guns.    >:D


- No effect on errors in azimuth, though...

8)
 

GnyHwy

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30 min for a plane to drop for you Gny ?

Since most mortals don't have a personal escort of CAS.....not even you Rampage.  I will stick with 30min.  Maybe shorter or longer depending on space and priority.

TCBF, I am impressed that you spelt azimuth correct. Have you been studying?
 
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Here's one that is a bit more complicated.

During a Regt Fire Plan a BC gives his adjustment O's.  Within his adjustment O's he has ordered some Tgts as record for gun data and some as record for coords.

What does that imply for the FOO involved?
What does that imply for the CP? and;
What does that imply for 0?

The FOO will adjust targets iaw the direction provided to him by the bc. If he is to adjust for coordinates he will order fire mission three guns, specify that converge will be used in his distribution of fire and record the target athe the short bracket much like the registration procedure. If he is to adjust for gun data he will order at a minimum fire mission 3 guns and will go through the bracket procedure and record the target when he has adjusted the mpi and have rounds in the target. If in the regimental context and he wants to see check rounds for the same target he will open up in 1 rd ffe and check the mpi. If no correction is needed he will end the mission.

The cp will adjust targets iaw with the fire orders given from the ops. The cp will produce and engagement report at the start of the fire mission followed by an availability report at the conclusion of the mission. If the bty is the senior bty they will circulate the target records with their altitude being applied.

The rcpo/0 will control the fire for the regiment and ensure that all target records are circulated on ring net, track the fire plan etc....

Not really a fire d question. The only thing that is challenging is differentiating between what adjusting for coordinates and gun data is.
 
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