Election 2015

[Brad Sallows]

>It will be interesting to see if the various special interest groups get what they campaigned for.

This (with variations) is becoming an overused phrase as various groups congratulate the incoming government and PM: "I hope they keep their promises to us".

 

[Altair]

BTW, are the ndp done after this election?

Not I terms of disappearing, they will always be around, but in terms of ever forming government at the federal level?

I doubt that they will ever have better conditions than this.

100+ seats.

Centralist leader

Centralist platform

Neutered wacky left wing.

Voters wanting change

Everything was there for them. Yet here we are today with them solidly in 3rd place.

 

[cavalryman]

Neutered wacky left wing.

I wonder how much the bozo eruption that was the Leap Manifesto did in terms of revealing that the wacky left wing remained ever present behind the hidden agenda?  Or more to the point, people realizing the ever-present wacky left wing seems to be predominantly filled with silver spoon socialists that have no connection to ordinary workers?

 

[jollyjacktar]

BTW, are the ndp done after this election?

Not I terms of disappearing, they will always be around, but in terms of ever forming government at the federal level?

I doubt that they will ever have better conditions than this.

100+ seats.

Centralist leader

Centralist platform

Neutered wacky left wing.

Voters wanting change

Everything was there for them. Yet here we are today with them solidly in 3rd place.

I prefer Liberal red to Commie red.  As I've said, not sad to see them lawndart in their Stuka.

 

[Kirkhill]

If you want one, you really can't have the other.  Whoever wrote that line doesn't really know how Ottawa works I think. 

Good, Fast, Cheap.  Two out of three, Strike.  ;D

 

[Rocky Mountains]

And in doing so they revealed historical ignorance of Canadian politics: the LPC is above all a centrist party, not a leftist one (WTF is a "progressive system"?).  They were (and probably still are, or will be shortly) well-connected into the "Big" establishments - Business, Law, Labour, etc - which implies a rolling back of the clock (always allegedly a conservative trait) to reassert their old power structures and practices.

When all is said and done, the NDP must feel like chumps.  In the effort to stop Harper they voted for the Liberals who ran on a Marxist campaign but will govern for the benefit of Eastern Canadian power elites, as usual.

 

[Kirkhill]

Generally speaking it was a good election.

Regionalism has started to fray round the edges.  Interesting to see the continued Social Credit Connection between Calgary and La Beauce.  Also interesting to see the rise of the BQ and the continued strength of the NDP in Quebec.

Ontario is as Ontario was. Best of luck to her.

We have our very own Obama.

 

[Kirkhill]

BTW, are the ndp done after this election?

Not I terms of disappearing, they will always be around, but in terms of ever forming government at the federal level?

I doubt that they will ever have better conditions than this.

100+ seats.

Centralist leader

Centralist platform

Neutered wacky left wing.

Voters wanting change

Everything was there for them. Yet here we are today with them solidly in 3rd place.

The West Island versus the rest of Quebec. The question is how much is partly how much are the LPC detested off the Island and who is best positioned to defeat them.  The second issue is who will deliver the most jobs.

Liberals won because Quebec fragmented.  And despite my personal preferences that is a good thing for Canada.

Congratulations Altair et al.

:cheers:

 

[Altair]

The West Island versus the rest of Quebec. The question is how much is partly how much are the LPC detested off the Island and who is best positioned to defeat them.  The second issue is who will deliver the most jobs.

Liberals won because Quebec fragmented.  And despite my personal preferences that is a good thing for Canada.

Congratulations Altair et al.

:cheers:

Hard to say that quebec is fragmented. It voted in a bloc again, red this time.

Which is a mixed blessing because it can turn on him just as its turned on many parties and leaders in the past 30 years.

That said, I'm obviously happy with the result, but I'm not here to rum salt into any bodies wounds.

 

[Rocky Mountains]

Trudeau was left with 22 Senate vacancies to fill with patronage appointments.  It was polite of Harper to leave them.  The Liberals can have an immediate Senate majority without the obstruction the Conservatives had to suffer for a few years.  Mind you, after all the Liberal lecturing, Trudeau wouldn't appoint any Senators, would he?

 

[Brad Sallows]

>I'm not here to rum salt into any bodies wounds.

Actually, I'll take the rum but you can still keep the salt.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Trudeau has promised some sort of non-partisan advisory (to the PM) process for Senate appointments.

This is an example of where we find out whether Trudeau is under control of his party, or is his own man wielding the full power of his office as he pleases.  (The Liberals have a long track record of using Senate appointments as part of their power retention structure.)

 

[Edward Campbell]

OK, the good news, according to report in the Ottawa Citizen: "Elections Canada says 68.5 per cent of eligible voters cast ballots in Monday’s federal election, the largest turnout of voters in more than 20 years ... Of the 25.6 million people registered to vote, close to 17.6 million turned up at polls across the country in an election that handed the Liberals led by Justin Trudeau a majority victory ... That kind of turnout hasn’t been seen since the 1993 election."

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Nanos did the best again. This was their last results (Sunday)

They had:
Liberals 39.1 (actual 39.5)
Cons 30.5 (actual, 31.9)
NDP 19.7 (same, 19.7)
Bloc 5.5 (actual, 4.7)
Green 4.6 (actual, 3.5)

Old news. Move on.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

OK, the good news, according to report in the Ottawa Citizen: "Elections Canada says 68.5 per cent of eligible voters cast ballots in Monday’s federal election, the largest turnout of voters in more than 20 years ... Of the 25.6 million people registered to vote, close to 17.6 million turned up at polls across the country in an election that handed the Liberals led by Justin Trudeau a majority victory ... That kind of turnout hasn’t been seen since the 1993 election."

That is a good thing. (Try say it without hearing Martha Stewart.  )

 

[Colin Parkinson]

73% voted in my riding

 

[jollyjacktar]

Hopefully people will remain this engaged in the process in subsequent elections.  Good to see them come out like this.

 

[ModlrMike]

It will be interesting to see the demographic distribution... if we collect that information. I anticipate that the 18-24 group will have come out in record numbers. I also imagine that 1st nations vote participation will have increased. The question, as already posed, is if these trends will hold in the future. Four years is a long time in the political realm.

 

[a_majoor]

Hopefully people will remain this engaged in the process in subsequent elections.  Good to see them come out like this.

The young people who voted because they wanted the "free credit card" should become quite engaged in 2019 when the credit card bill comes due. However, Ontarians have been seeing and paying the bill for the last 10 years, so I have my doubts....

 

[thehare]

The young people who voted because they wanted the "free credit card" should become quite engaged in 2019 when the credit card bill comes due. However, Ontarians have been seeing and paying the bill for the last 10 years, so I have my doubts....

To be fair, it seems to me that a lot of the youth who voted in this election voted more so to remove Harper from office than for the "free credit card" of which you speak. I've been talking to a lot of my friends and colleagues in their early 20's, and the trend for their "reason to vote" seemed less policy driven (such as massive infrastructure investment) and more socially driven. A lot of youth seen Harper as a tyrant of sorts (I would disagree with them vehemently but that is neither here nor there), and simply wanted to replace him, and saw Trudeau as the best option to do that.

Interesting enough, quite a few of these individuals do echo some concerns over the large amount of spending Trudeau is promising. It seems they hedged their bets hoping that the spending is either worth it in order to remove Harper from office, or that Trudeau was simply making election promises and that this spending will never actually happen once the Liberals "look at the books" so to speak.

Either way, regardless of why they voted for the Liberals I do think there will be a slightly different tune from some of these individuals in the next election if this spending is to take place.