Don Cherry fired

[The Bread Guy]

Here's Global's version ...
https://globalnews.ca/news/6160099/don-cherry-defends-comments-hockey-night-in-canada/

 

[mariomike]

I wonder what he was asked to do.

Apparently he told Joe Warmington he would have had to agree to “be turned into a tamed robot.”
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-heres-why-don-cherry-was-in-the-wrong

 

[Journeyman]

The Beaverton:  Fabricland files for bankruptcy after biggest customer fired from Coach’s Corner  LINK
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[mariomike]

Apparently he went on Tucker's show.

 

[Journeyman]

Since people are reposting others' thoughts on this, I would like to provide the Twitter posts of LGen (ret'd) Mike Day. 
Twitter is open access, so I don't believe  that there are any copyright issues.

So just received a DM [Twitter Direct Message] asking me, in very certain language, why I was so "engaged" online wrt Don Cherry's comments.  Notwithstanding the language of the DM, the question is valid and so unlike the DM I thought I would answer transparently.

I listened carefully and although he now claims his comments were about Poppies, what his words were actually focussed on were visible minorities who he claimed did not conform to his view of what should be.

Here are my issues.
The CAF deployed experience since the early 90s has been in places that have been characterized by ethnic divisions and the demonization of targeted groups. CAF members have literally given their lives to fight against this type of bigotry.

History clearly indicates that this demonization starts with people in positions of public influence inflaming tensions through promoting narratives that focus on the negatives of differences, and how those that are different are not equal or good enough to be citizens.  Don Cherry not only furthered that narrative but did so based on his ability to determine who was a new immigrant merely by what he saw as he drove to work.

Let me summarize that: They didn't look like him, so they had to be immigrants.

Those organizations with whom I have served have immigrants and children of immigrants -- Dedicated Canadians -- They & 2nd, 3rd, 4th Generation Canadians ( and so on), as well as First Nations, have served in places where it was impossible to determine status based on appearance.

What I want to believe the CAF represents is the very best of Canada.  Sometimes the CAF has stumbled, and it certainly has a long way to go in dealing with minorities and sexual harassment, but there is a determination to do better.

So in order to do better, you have to be willing to speak out early when these moments appear.  We need only look south of the border for what happens when voices don't speak immediately and effectively.

So I choose to speak out.  I choose to dismiss the after the fact defence of using the wrong words of "you people" vice "everybody."
"Everybody who comes here for milk and honey" is no better a sentiment.

Time and again, every validated study of immigration has demonstrated that not only do immigrants add to our economic viability, but are necessary.  Equally, I am unaware of any ability to determine who is an immigrant based on visual cues.  Even if we could, it shouldn't matter.  The CAF serves to represent all Canadians, and this means respecting they will make different choices.

Shamed compliance makes a travesty of this.  I want to Canadians, whatever they look like, to be inspired to wear poppies, not shame them to compliance

So ...
Allowing Don Cherry's comments to be dismissed as just Don being Don, or merely misinterpreted, allows his brand of racism to continue.

We should expect better of ourselves.

Twitter: @Mike_Day (thread starts here)

I agree whole-heartedly with what he says
     

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[Remius]

Very well said.

 

[Old Sweat]

That's the Mike Day I knew.

 

[The Bread Guy]

The Beaverton:  Fabricland files for bankruptcy after biggest customer fired from Coach’s Corner  LINK
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... with a quick follow-up:  "Don Cherry passes Fox News job interview"

 

[BeyondTheNow]

Since people are reposting others' thoughts on this, I would like to provide the Twitter posts of LGen (ret'd) Mike Day. 
Twitter is open access, so I don't believe  that there are any copyright issues.
Twitter: @Mike_Day (thread starts here)

I agree whole-heartedly with what he says
     

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Thanks for sharing that. 

 

[The Bread Guy]

Apparently he went on Tucker's show.

With the typical nuance and understatement Fox commentators are known for ....
"TUCKER CARLSON INTERVIEWS DON CHERRY ONE DAY AFTER HE WAS FIRED OVER IMMIGRATION RANT, SAYS* HIS CRITICS ARE 'FASCISTS' "

* - That's Carlson calling the critics fascist, not Cherry.  Fox's news story about the issue is pretty straightforward.

 

[mariomike]

* - [size=10pt]That's Carlson calling the critics fascist, not Cherry. 

Tucker can do all the name-calling he wants. It's not his job on the line.

Apparently, Don also made an appearance on Rebel Media.

My guess is, letting him go was a business decision.

Maybe keeping him around  wasn't worth the financial risk of losing the sponsorship of Labatt - Budweiser.

His partner doesn't seem ready to hang up his skates yet, and is distancing himself,

When asked why he was disappointed, Cherry said, “because [MacLean] buried me.”
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/59n88b/don-cherry-blames-ron-maclean-for-burying-him-does-far-right-media

 

[Remius]

And someone else being called on stereotyping race and a specific group.

Growing calls to have her fired.

I have no idea who this person his and only saw it in the news feed. 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/the-social-cast-member-jessica-allen-clarifies-cherry-comments-1.4684143

But what is good for the goose...

 

[brihard]

Imagine if normal Canadians had put all this same amount of energy and angst into commemoration? Could you imagine if every word typed about this nonsense on both is had instead been a word about the memory or legacy of some veteran?

 

[Jarnhamar]

[quote author=Remius]

But what is good for the goose...
[/quote]

Think she'll get fired for her comments about white hockey players and their parents or get a pass?

 

[Kat Stevens]

The real miscarriage here is the timing of the firing of DC. By canning him on Remembrance day, the network guaranteed themselves hero status, along with the first ten minutes of every national news broadcast that night instead of putting the focus where it belonged; remembering all those who will never get to see another hockey game, or anything else for that matter.

 

[Good2Golf]

Think she'll get fired for her comments about white hockey players and their parents or get a pass?

You forgot the [/rhetorical question] label. :nod:

 

[Cloud Cover]

Imagine if normal Canadians had put all this same amount of energy and angst into commemoration? Could you imagine if every word typed about this nonsense on both is had instead been a word about the memory or legacy of some veteran?

Only if it’s not “inconvenient” or conflicts with “playtime” or “recess”.  https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/family-outraged-after-school-doesn-t-pause-at-11-a-m-on-remembrance-day-because-of-recess-1.4686256

 

[mariomike]

Only if it’s not “inconvenient” or conflicts with “playtime” or “recess”.

Said they will pull their kids - ages 5 and 6 - out of school for the day. That means they will miss the 11:45 assembly where there will be a minute of silence, and most importantly for kids that age, the reason behind it is explained.

This thread reminds me that I don't see as many Legion members pinning poppies on donors as in the old days.

Remembrance Day was a 12-hour stat. holiday where I worked. But, I'm not sure how many actually attended services.

Personally,  I prefer sports pundits try to stick to sports, as much as possible, rather than politics.

 

[QV]

Since people are reposting others' thoughts on this, I would like to provide the Twitter posts of LGen (ret'd) Mike Day. 
Twitter is open access, so I don't believe  that there are any copyright issues.
Twitter: @Mike_Day (thread starts here)

I agree whole-heartedly with what he says
     

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Curious to know if LGen (ret'd) Day had anything to say publically on SNC, VAdm Norman affair, or more relevant to this subject, the three blackface episodes by the PM.  Or has he limited his public commentary to only what a bigot Grapes is?  I honestly don't know.

 

[Journeyman]

Curious to know if LGen (ret'd) Day had anything to say publically on SNC, VAdm Norman affair, or more relevant to this subject, the three blackface episodes by the PM.  Or has he limited his public commentary to only what a bigot Grapes is?  I honestly don't know.

He routinely provides informed thoughts on relevant current events; he is active on a number of online social media sites and at public events (predominantly Ottawa).