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frank1515 said:
That is not what Churchill said. For it to be a quote, it would have to be accurate. He said :
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That is not what Churchill said. For it to be a quote, it would have to be accurate. He said :
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The answer "its too hard" is unacceptable.
That's mine.
That's mine.
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However the name of the actual speech was the original quote, the "name" also became a slogan to British forces.. I remember learning and having to study his speeches in history last year. Fun. fun. fun.
IE; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Never_was_so_much_owed_by_so_many_to_so_few.jpg
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canada94 said:
Then it should be identified as the "name" of the speech and not the words of the speaker or, more appropriately, as the paraphrased words of Mr. Churchill on an RAF recruiting poster. But, as I said above -
Blackadder1916 said:
Just because that iconic RAF poster paraphrased his words (most likely with his consent and to his delight - besides being an extraordinary orator, he also liked being the centre of attention) does not mean that future references to his words should continue the practice. He left a rich legacy in the English language and the contraction of that heritage to a few advertising slogans diminishes it.
As for the "name of the speech", I'll continue to think of it simply as "The Few" (since it wasn't a titled presentation) in the same manner as The Chuchill Centre and Museum.
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/learn/speeches/quotations/famous-quotations-and-stories
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Sythen said:
I personally would like to have a word with whomever submitted all those quotes from the Iraqi Foreign Minister or whatever.
On a better note,
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill
and
"I had rather have a plain, russet-coated Captain, that knows what he fights for, and loves what he knows, than that which you call a Gentle-man and is nothing else." - Oliver Cromwell
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Sythen said:
Done and gone.
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12 O'clock High:
“He’s going to bust wide open. And he’s going to do it to himself, too. Why? Because he’s a first-rate guy. Because those are his boys and he’s thinking about them instead of missions. Over-identification with his men, I think that’s what they call it.”
From Here to Eternity:
"Maybe back in the days of the pioneers a man could go his own way, but today you got to play ball."
"Tough monkey. Guys like you end up in the stockade sooner or later. Some day you'll walk in; I'll be waiting. I'll show you a couple of things."
Bridge on the River Kwai ( to nurse ):
"You give me powders, pills, baths, injections, enemas; when all I need is love."
Stalag 17:
Commandant: "Curtains would do wonders for this barracks. You will not get them."
Commandant; "All right then, gentlemen, we are all friends again. And with Christmas coming on I have a special treat for you. I'll have you all deloused for the holidays and I'll have a little Christmas tree for every barrack. You will like that."
“He’s going to bust wide open. And he’s going to do it to himself, too. Why? Because he’s a first-rate guy. Because those are his boys and he’s thinking about them instead of missions. Over-identification with his men, I think that’s what they call it.”
From Here to Eternity:
"Maybe back in the days of the pioneers a man could go his own way, but today you got to play ball."
"Tough monkey. Guys like you end up in the stockade sooner or later. Some day you'll walk in; I'll be waiting. I'll show you a couple of things."
Bridge on the River Kwai ( to nurse ):
"You give me powders, pills, baths, injections, enemas; when all I need is love."
Stalag 17:
Commandant: "Curtains would do wonders for this barracks. You will not get them."
Commandant; "All right then, gentlemen, we are all friends again. And with Christmas coming on I have a special treat for you. I'll have you all deloused for the holidays and I'll have a little Christmas tree for every barrack. You will like that."
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I've often wondered if Churchill was deliberately referencing Henry V {by William Shakespeare or someone else of the same name}
" ... We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition ..."
" ... We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition ..."
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One of my favourite movie quotes is from 1977's "Cross of Iron" staring James Coburn as Sgt. Steiner...
"What do I have to be grateful for, Captain? Your tolerance? You think that just because you and Colonel Brandt are more enlightened than most officers that I hate you any less?"
"What do I have to be grateful for, Captain? Your tolerance? You think that just because you and Colonel Brandt are more enlightened than most officers that I hate you any less?"
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"Don't underestimate the stimulation of eccentricity."
From "Biloxi Blues".
The young recruits had gone through such ahard time near madness with their sergeant. But, when they got a new one, army life was not as exciting.
They were leading an exciting life, and didn't realize it, even with all his bullsh**. It was awful, but it was worth it.
From "Biloxi Blues".
The young recruits had gone through such a
They were leading an exciting life, and didn't realize it, even with all his bullsh**. It was awful, but it was worth it.
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Just to keep this going and clarifying my original intent for this thread. I had hopes of maybe getting a comment tab built in to the quote of the day window for people to make comments that would remain attached to that quote. This would allow for people to ask questions, offer their interpretation and/or comment; as well as allowing others to comment or debate.
This one is from today.
"It is your attitude, and the suspicion that you are maturing the boldest designs against him, that imposes on your enemy."
- Frederick the Great
Do you think the western armies live by this one? It would seem so, but it seems like a paradox that would lead to the military industrial complex.
Fire away!
This one is from today.
"It is your attitude, and the suspicion that you are maturing the boldest designs against him, that imposes on your enemy."
- Frederick the Great
Do you think the western armies live by this one? It would seem so, but it seems like a paradox that would lead to the military industrial complex.
Fire away!
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“I want every American unit not actually in the front lines to see this place. We are told the American soldier does not know what he is fighting for. Now, at least he will know what he is fighting against.”
General Dwight D. Eisenhower
April, 1945.
Ref: “Inside the Vicious Heart” by Robert Abzug.
General Dwight D. Eisenhower
April, 1945.
Ref: “Inside the Vicious Heart” by Robert Abzug.
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A very good modern documentary that describes the military industrial complex very well is "Why We Fight". It starts with Eisenhower's speech when leaving the presidential office.
No matter what your point of view about the film, it certainly raises some good points and creates awareness.
It's a full movie. This is the google link.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9219858826421983682#
You can also watch it in 12 parts on you tube. The quality maybe better. This is the link to part one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm1B7x5JZfE
No matter what your point of view about the film, it certainly raises some good points and creates awareness.
It's a full movie. This is the google link.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9219858826421983682#
You can also watch it in 12 parts on you tube. The quality maybe better. This is the link to part one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm1B7x5JZfE
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"One cannot wage war under present conditions without the support of public opinion, which is tremendously molded by the press and other forms of propaganda."
- General Douglas MacArthur
An excellent mention of how investigative journalism can force journalists outside their lanes. See "Guelph Man Says Military is Ill Prepared" for an example.
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/102389/post-1073432.html#msg1073432
Celebrities also feel the need to use appeal to authority, although they are far from an authority; other than perhaps reading the type of articles above.
It's a shame that the Cmdrs in charge hold less weight than the uneducated outsiders who have access to media and make public slights to support to their agenda.
- General Douglas MacArthur
An excellent mention of how investigative journalism can force journalists outside their lanes. See "Guelph Man Says Military is Ill Prepared" for an example.
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/102389/post-1073432.html#msg1073432
Celebrities also feel the need to use appeal to authority, although they are far from an authority; other than perhaps reading the type of articles above.
It's a shame that the Cmdrs in charge hold less weight than the uneducated outsiders who have access to media and make public slights to support to their agenda.
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