Current Red Air Force Trades and other questions

[RTaylor]

Howdy all,

Ive already done the search trying to find the red air force trades (ones needing people) but I cant seem to find any info anywhere (could be just the army/navy having red trades I don't know).

Anywho, my wife has really started her nagfest about me going Combat Engineer (just waiting for my all for Basic) so I am trying to get ammo to use against her but just in case I've decided to jump over here to the Air Force forums to spam my questions.

So here we go I guess, this may get locked and I'm ready for that, but it doesn't hurt to get hte advice from the experienced. Based on what follows, what would you recommend as a possible trade

1 - I like not being stuck in 1 place all the time. I like to see things, do things but being crammed in a cubicle isn't my style.
2 - My hobby is working on computers and electronics and I really enjoy it, but I also enjoy being out doors doing stuff.
3 - Like to see some travel and see some overseas time
4 - According to my wife she doesnt want me out and about all the time so I guess the option for a more or less regular work day
5 - Chance to avoid overly reptitive work (I work in a call center at the moment, drives me insane) so a bit of dynamic work wold be great.
6 - Would like a chance to work with DART as it lies within my interests to help people (got counselling diploma / addictions counselling diploma) during a crisis.


I guess what it comes down to is I like computers, travelling, not being stuck in 1 place too often (but it can be nice sometimes) and a fairly steady schedule on a job thats not going to kill me with repetitive garbage.

Well, I got to clean up a tad, so if you have any feedback or questions please post em here.

 

[The_Falcon]

Go medic.

 

[RTaylor]

Tried to but I dont have Gr12 chem or Bio...that was my first choice (well, between that and Combat Engineer).

Not as if Im not smart enough to do the Gr12 courses needed.

 

[Bandit1]

Not an AF trade, but how about the Navy?  Ships have computers galore and are always on the go to some port of call...

If you wanted an AF trade, why not give AVN Tech a whirl....

Bandit

 

[RTaylor]

Ships are a moot point, I get seasick pretty bad and just plain don't like being on them at all.Plus I like my feet on the ground as much as possible lol.

 

[Bandit1]

Aviation Systems Tech

Avionics Systems Tech

Aerospace Control Operator

Bandit

 

[RTaylor]

I actually contemplated Avionics System Tech when I was applying but I got a chance to see it in action...not my cup of tea.

 

[cp140tech]

Where did you see the AVS guys in action?  That trade can have quite a bit of variety depending on fleet and position.

Have you looked at ATIS?

If you're into computers then you might not be happiest in the AVN trade.

 

[Gramps]

Well, if you like travel then Traffic Tech is a good option. We do many different jobs and work around the globe.

 

[Strike]

Sigs?

 

[Command-Sense-Act 105]

What a disappointment!

I saw Red Air Force and I thought we were going to talk about this.

Have a happy day, comrades!

 

[X-mo-1979]

LMFAO

Silly tankers.

 

[RTaylor]

lol nice one CSA

 

[navymich]

Ive already done the search trying to find the red air force trades (ones needing people) but I cant seem to find any info anywhere (could be just the army/navy having red trades I don't know).

Current red trades for AF (ref: Occupation Status List FY 07/08 (applicable to 2008/09 VOT competitions) - Published by DPGR ftp://borden.mil.ca/cfrg/Bilingual%20Messages/ISS/Occ_Status_FY_07_08_All_Spring_b.xls DIN accessible only)

AEC, AF ENGR, ANAV, AESOP, AVN, CE SUPT, CONST TECH, EGS TECH, FLT ENGR, RM TECH

note: these are the red trades for VOT and therefore some of them are only available for those that meet the prerequisites for a transfer to a 'remuster only' trade.  However, if you do a bit of research comparing these trades to what is available through all AF jobs on the recruiting website, you will narrow down what you could apply for.

 

[Inch]

Current red trades for AF (ref: Occupation Status List FY 07/08 (applicable to 2008/09 VOT competitions) - Published by DPGR ftp://borden.mil.ca/cfrg/Bilingual%20Messages/ISS/Occ_Status_FY_07_08_All_Spring_b.xls DIN accessible only)

AEC, AF ENGR, ANAV, AESOP, AVN, CE SUPT, CONST TECH, EGS TECH, FLT ENGR, RM TECH

note: these are the red trades for VOT and therefore some of them are only available for those that meet the prerequisites for a transfer to a 'remuster only' trade.  However, if you do a bit of research comparing these trades to what is available through all AF jobs on the recruiting website, you will narrow down what you could apply for.

Pilot isn't red? I find that hard to believe. We're overflowing with ANAV's here in Shearwater and according to the APS openings, we've got 9 vacant pilot slots here at 423 which would make us undermanned by about 25 percent. CM brief next week where we'll find out for sure.

 

[navymich]

Pilot isn't red? I find that hard to believe. We're overflowing with ANAV's here in Shearwater and according to the APS openings, we've got 9 vacant pilot slots here at 423 which would make us undermanned by about 25 percent. CM brief next week where we'll find out for sure.

Pilot is Amber, along with: CELE, AC OP, AVS, ED TECH, IMAGE TECH, NDT TECH and SAR TECH.  Pilot is "8.3% below PML, expanding, medium term recovery, trg issues"

 

[RTaylor]

Someone was explaining the AVN trade to me, and from what tehy said and what the site says it seems alot more like a mechanic for aircraft than anything else. AVS seems more like a psition for computer users or techies.

One thing that did iseem interesting is this line in AVN :

AVN TECHs are employed in tactical helicopter field units and on board ships. When employed with land or sea forces, they are subject to the same living conditions as soldiers and sailors.


Does this mean that they do alot of work in the field and do exercises with the army, etc? I know that they can get alot of travel in as opposed to the AVS tech

 

[Inch]

A Helicopter Air Detachment (Helairdet) is typically comprised of 4 pilots, 2 TACCOs (Navigators), 2 AESOps, 1 MWO tech (AVS or AVN), 1 Sgt tech (AVS or AVN), 2 Mcpl AVN, 1 MCpl AVS, 4 Cpl AVN and 2 Cpl AVS for a total manning of 19. So if you go AVN or AVS and end up in a Maritime Helicopter Sqn, you will go to sea at some point.

TacHel is similar, when the Sqn deploys helos, it also deploys associated techs and aircrew. So yes, if you end up TacHel or MH, you will deploy with the army and navy and have the same living conditions as them.

 

[cp140tech]

Someone was explaining the AVN trade to me, and from what tehy said and what the site says it seems alot more like a mechanic for aircraft than anything else. AVS seems more like a psition for computer users or techies.

One thing that did iseem interesting is this line in AVN :

AVN TECHs are employed in tactical helicopter field units and on board ships. When employed with land or sea forces, they are subject to the same living conditions as soldiers and sailors.


Does this mean that they do alot of work in the field and do exercises with the army, etc? I know that they can get alot of travel in as opposed to the AVS tech

 

  I think you may be slightly misinformed about what the AVS folks do.  They go away just as much as AVN does.

  AVN techs get dirty, fuel/oil/hydraulic,  all that good stuff.  Thinking of us as mechanics will give you a decent idea of our role, plus a few things like safety systems, and armament.

  AVS techs are responsible on-aircraft maintenance as well, but their components tend to be cleaner and full of wonderous magical gizmos.  They work outside, on the flight line and on deployed ops.  Think of all the radios, navigation systems, flight instruments and little black boxes it takes to keep an aircraft in the sky;  that's what those folks own.  The common saying for this fleet is that they're not paid for what they do, but what they know.  It might seem easy to just go in and start replacing little black boxes, but finding the right box is a miserable job and it requires a lot of knowledge.  The people who are happy in this trade often seem to be people who are comfortable with computers and solid state electronics, but they don't spend their days behind a desk.  When we're away, they'll pitch in and help us out.  They do all the flight line servicing that AVN does, we split that stuff down the middle.  It's pretty much impossible for me to troubleshoot any of their snags, but I can replace what they point out and I can hold a flashlight with the best of them.

  I've only got experience with my fleet, so I can't provide first hand knowledge about TacHel or Sea Kings, but it looks like Inch gave you the scoop on that count.

 

[MAJONES]

AVN & AVS are wide open right now.  If someone comes into the centre and applies for these trades we process them as fast as possible.  Combat Engineer is currently full (at lteast until the new fiscal year in April).  Other tech trades that are wide open are ATIS and LCIS as well as most of the Navy Tech Trades.  Artillery also hs a huge number of open spots right now.