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In any other country, this would be a huge scandal and people would be arrested.
I'm not so sure.

The Aussies leased the port of Darwin to a Chinese firm for 99 years.
 

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A Terry Glavin triple-header.




In any other country, this would be a huge scandal and people would be arrested.
At least the US’ patience and tolerance final ran its course and Canada is ‘on orders’ to shape up or wave bye bye as the G6 moves on without it.
 

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In any other country, this would be a huge scandal and people would be arrested.
Don’t rule out heart attacks and single vehicle accidents…
 

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A Terry Glavin triple-header.




In any other country, this would be a huge scandal and people would be arrested.
If this is not the lead in Question Period on Monday, the CPC is incompetent.
 

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In any other country, this would be a huge scandal and people would be arrested.
I knew the Liberals were cosy with the Chinese, but it actually appears they have been owned lock, stock and barrel by the CCP, if this is accurate.
 

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NO ONE took JT to task for his "basic admiration for China" and asked "Hey Mr candidate for PM just WTF do you mean? China is a Communist country, you fuking dolt"
I do not think your allowed to call the leader of our country a "dolt" I would not want you getting a warning for name calling the head of state as I did.
 

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I do not think your allowed to call the leader of our country a "dolt" I would not want you getting a warning for name calling the head of state as I did.
I am only calling it as I see it - in fact "dolt" is mild compared to "dunderhead", "village idiot", "Stupid oaf" or "Stupid fat hobbit". All which fit except Hobbits aren't that stupid.
 

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At the risk of boring you with very recent political "history," there is, still, today, in 2022, a substantial wing of the Liberal Party that believes that Pierre Trudeau was right.

In 1968 Pierre Trudeau, along with a great many - likely a solid majority of the younger (age 16-30) cohort - believed (I think that's the right word) that the USA, in pursuit off unrestrained free-market capitalism for the world, was a greater threat to world peace than were China and the USSR and Marxist-Leninist communism. The Vietnam war energized that cohort and made their politics matter.

Pierre Trudeau wanted to detach Canada from the American orbit, but that was, as he discovered, much easier said than done. First, he bumped into a large minority, in his own Liberal Party, led by e.g. Paul Martin Sr and Mitchell Sharp, that disagreed. Second, his friends in the Euro-American socialist movement wanted to "reform" America, not cast it and its leadership and protection aside.

Pierre Trudeau was not, in any comprehensible way, a Liberal he certainly wasn't a liberal. In the 1960s he was, politically, on the socially progressive/anti-American wing of the then newly formed NDP. But he became symbolic of Canada in the 1960s and even when new leaders, like John Manley, disavowed almost every single one of Pierre Trudeau's policies they remained loyal to the brand ... and 21st century Liberals remain equally loyal to the brand name and equally committed to what they believe Pierre Trudeau wanted.

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Edited to add: I believe that one of the few things that Justin Trudeau believes - and not just because Gerry Butts and Katie Telford tell him to believe it - is that his father was great man and his ideas are still good, today.
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I do not think your allowed to call the leader of our country a "dolt" I would not want you getting a warning for name calling the head of state as I did.
PMJT is the leader of a political party that happens to be thr Head of Government at this time. HM The King and Her Excellency the GG by right of His Majesty are our Heads of State.

I unfortunately feel our proximity to the U.S. seems to influence opinion on where that office sits in the pecking order; even if constitutionally its literally just the Executive Branch of government.

PMJT has behaved like a dolt. He has acted like a buffoon, a charlatan, an embarrassment, and frankly, a threat to our national security and international standing.

I wish our elected MPs had a spine, like their cousins across the Pond, and would stage even the smallest of coups to gain some teeth back from the PMO/PCO.
 

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David Herle, a Liberal operative had a good interview with Steve Paikin and they talked about his book on John Turner. The one thing that they pointed out a couple of times was how the young punks in short pants in the PMO have so destroyed the idea of Member of Parliament Independence.

 

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The Rebellion gave us Responsible Governement.

To mis-quote Marko Raimius: " A little rebellion from time to time is not necessarily a bad thing".

If the MP's of all parties stopped seeing themselves as members of the government or of the governement in waiting (which as simple MP they are not - only PM and ministers are) with the express aim of becoming ministers and instead rebelled and, banding together, rebelled and reformed all the rules that have been put in place over the years by the governement and parties to control them, they could regain their position as overwatchers of the executive and regain both their place in our system and the respect from the citizenry that the job should entail.
 

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Committee work should be where the MP's hold the cabinet and the public service to account for their actions. Not a kangaroo court of gotcha. If the cabinet is confident that their actions are above board and in the public interest they should not be against having to answer pointed questions from the member of parliament from Flin Flon - Cranberry Portage. Sadly it is not like this and therefore, especially during this time of everyone having a platform to broadcast their thoughts, the lack of accountability causes conspiracy theories and refusal to believe to become rampant.
 
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