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Fishbone Jones

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I’m sure it would be worse if we moved to a private health care system.
I have no idea. It's not what we were talking about so I haven't looked at that tangent. Perhaps you could do some research and present it to start the discussion?
 

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Why do we have to go to extremes like socialism in our discussions ? How about we just up the tax on the rich ? Stop giving tax free anything's to big business... We don't have to revert to socialism to ensure everyone pays their share.

I think the profit Rumble and Joe Rogan made probably pales in comparison to Amazon and Pfizer just to name a few.
It isn’t an extreme. Social programs and big government are always likened to socialism in most arguments against that sort of thing. And I wasn’t arguing in favour of socialism one way or another. Just the disconnect that some have about decrying free market activities but condemning exactly what you propose .

Taxing the rich and taxing corporations. Not opposed and I agree. I’m not sure most conservatives do though. In fact they (the Royal they) actively campaign against that sort of thing.
 

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Deal! But no talking that's my time to be alone in my head hahaha
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I mean we shouldn't really blame the billionaires, they are just the best entrepreneurs out there 😁
That is an absolute truth. What was unfair about their windfalls is our own governments, those that were elected to take care of us, closed up the little guys stores and picked the big box owners to fill that gap. There was no reason why small shops could not remain open and have people sanitize and wear a mask, because to stay in business, that's all Walmart, Cambodian Tire, Home Depot, et al had to do. Sanitize and enforce a mask policy.
 

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Deal! But no talking that's my time to be alone in my head hahaha
If you're talking, you aren't running hard enough.

Peleton is currently involved with a number of different lawsuits. Some made by them and some demanded of them. They are going to be spending a shitload of money out of pocket.
 

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That is an absolute truth. What was unfair about their windfalls is our own governments, those that were elected to take care of us, closed up the little guys stores and picked the big box owners to fill that gap. There was no reason why small shops could not remain open and have people sanitize and wear a mask, because to stay in business, that's all Walmart, Cambodian Tire, Home Depot, et al had to do. Sanitize and enforce a mask policy.
You got no argument from me there. I also admit to having no other information other than what I read about places like Ontario.

I know a few of my spouse's friends who own restaurants and other small businesses went through a tremendously rough time for awhile as their businesses were forced to shutter and they were out of work.

These are those second order effects that others dismiss because it doesn't affect them.
 

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And I know one pub owner who said he never made so much money while the fed's were covering 75% of his biggest cost, wages......
 

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And I know one pub owner who said he never made so much money while the fed's were covering 75% of his biggest cost, wages......
Yep if you could milk CEWS, you were raking in a fortune. CEWS doesn't help the workers though or if you're the only employee with your spouse 😉
 

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Why do we have to go to extremes like socialism in our discussions ? How about we just up the tax on the rich ? Stop giving tax free anything's to big business... We don't have to revert to socialism to ensure everyone pays their share.

I think the profit Rumble and Joe Rogan made probably pales in comparison to Amazon and Pfizer just to name a few.
The inability for some to differentiate how those entities earn their money is amusing. Disingenuous, expert level.
 
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